March 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Woot!!!!! Is this still a tracer or does it create a new kernel from source? If it's still a tracer when do you think you'll have a creator and what are you calling it? >From source may be a way to go but only for the smallest core. I would like to play with a source bootstrap. For now we use a tracer and we should learn also how to build dynamically cores (like aljandro nurturing) Stef

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

pavel consider hazel as a first end to end process. The contents is and will vary. We have to learn and understand what we want to put in and how we rebuild everything. Stef >>>>> >> -- Pavel >> > > I see, the base content of this image is defined as: > > (each category beginsWith: 'Kernel') or: > [(each category beginsWith: 'Collection') or: > [(each category = 'Exceptions-Kernel') or: > [(each category = 'Announcements-Core') or: > [(each category = 'System-Pools') or: > [(each category = 'System-Support') or: > [(each name == #EncodedCharSet) or: > [(each category == 'Multilingual-Encodings') or: > [(each category == 'Multilingual-Languages') or: > [(each name) == #Unicode]]]]]]]]]]. > > That is really radical shrinking :-) But it has great potential. I'll > try to play with it... > > -- Pavel >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: >> >>> Great! >>> >>> does it have the same code base as the current Pharo-Kernel? >>> >> >> Yes. 1.3 latest Core. (I am just integrating the printon fix) >> >> Marcus > > So if we will be able to run startup scripts in this image, we be able > to use the Pharo-Kernel scripts for loading all the content of the > PharoCore back. Perfect! yes!!! > > -- Pavel > > >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes!!! The idea is that we have no a process where we can produce a core and in parallel continue to improve it. We should integrate all the seed bug entries and move on :) Great day today. I'm happy Stef On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > Great! > > does it have the same code base as the current Pharo-Kernel? > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Benjamin > <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello guys, >> >> >> I finally success (with the help of Igor) to trace and create a new Smalltalk kernel based on Pharo. The new born weight 2.2Mb and includes 230 classes ;) >> >> You can try it here: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; >> package: 'SystemTracing'; >> load. >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'Seed'; >> package: 'Seed-HazelBuilder'; >> load. >> >> HazelTracer2 writeImage: 'hazel.image'. >> >> >> If you have an error in Point>>#printOn: , you can use this fix >> >> >> >> >> >> I want to thank Igor again, because he helps me a lot :) >> >> >> >> Ben >> >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

COOOOL And I missed the birth, shit! Monday you have to tell me what you did to fix the last meters of the run. I see that it was boring to write slides :))) Stef On Mar 4, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Benjamin wrote: > Hello guys, > > > I finally success (with the help of Igor) to trace and create a new Smalltalk kernel based on Pharo. The new born weight 2.2Mb and includes 230 classes ;) > > You can try it here: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > package: 'SystemTracing'; > load. > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'Seed'; > package: 'Seed-HazelBuilder'; > load. > > HazelTracer2 writeImage: 'hazel.image'. > > > If you have an error in Point>>#printOn: , you can use this fix > <FixPointPrintOn.1.cs> > > > > I want to thank Igor again, because he helps me a lot :) > > > > Ben

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] about morphicSoundEventtcbkss0

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

;) On Mar 4, 2011, at 10:35 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > I can't figure out what these methods have been used for exactly (probably for some conversion, there are more such methods with weird names like layoutMorphbosfcepcbbochvimol0). They have no senders, and they have been in the image since at least 1998 (I checked in a 3.2 image). I don't think anybody will miss them ;) > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Mar 4, 2011, at 21:22 , stephane ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> does anybody have an idea why SmartRefStream would need to refer to MorphicUnknownEvent? >> >> morphicSoundEventtcbkss0 >> ^ MorphicUnknownEvent >> >> Stef (the Ultimate Random Refactorer) > >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on Apple App Store

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I like this plan.! One click VM building :) > This is *my* roadmap: > > 1) we create a repeatable vm build process (I'm working on that with Igor... taking more time than desired, but we are *almost* there). This step is good for going into app store because that way people can build and code-sign the vms with their own signatures. (AFAIK, you can't sign the binaries, but I might be wrong... not fully checked yet) > 2) well... you don't need anything else, once you can sign, you can upload with your developer account :) > > There is also "design guidelines" for OSX, which you'll need to follow. But I'm uncertain on how this will affect pharo applications. > > > best, > Esteban > > El 04/03/2011, a las 10:36a.m., Hilaire Fernandes escribiÃ³: > >> Le 04/03/2011 14:14, Alexandre Bergel a Ã©crit : >>> What does it mean? >>> I think we should have a clear roadmap on how to get a pharo application in the appstore. The train is passing by and we are not taking it. >> >> Yes, nevertheless you may want to take the alternative high speed train. >> >> > >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Coral?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 4, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > After I've tried Hazel, I was wondering what is the status of Coral. I would love to move away from Bash. me tooo. > I am just wondering. Use coral it is working. We should get more and more user. I'm waiting for after next week to introduce a better way to handle file.st, file.cor..... When hazel will be working we will use it but this is orhtogonal to Coral. We have documenting FS and we should improve it too. Luc told me that he remove the icon to get the start up faster Stef > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > >

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3782 in pharo: Pangrams

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Labels: Milestone-1.3 Comment #1 on issue 3782 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: Pangrams http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3782 thanks

March 5, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] - 24 DockingBarMorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I love the example in the comment On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:00 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > I'm a kind of container which adhere to one edge of the screen. See me in action with: > > > DockingBarMorph new > addMorph: (SimpleButtonMorph new > label: 'Say hello'; > target: [UIManager inform: 'Hello']; > actionSelector: #value); > addMorph: (SimpleButtonMorph new > label: 'Say bonjour'; > target: [UIManager inform: 'Bonjour']; > actionSelector: #value); > addMorph: (SimpleButtonMorph new > label: 'Close'; > target: [DockingBarMorph allInstances last delete]; > actionSelector: #value); > adhereToBottom; > openInWorld. > > > Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:28 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Today: DockingBarMorph > > > Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment > Rules: > #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). > #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. > Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest > > Laurent >

March 5, 2011