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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3706 in pharo: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #6 on issue 3706 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: In OB: Text in comment pane of Browser uses syntax highlighting http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3706 lukas 1.2 is released. Now Why we dragged beyond is because of OB. So if you wait until 1.2 is released and we wait to get OB released fixed for 1.2 we will never make it. So could you publish a version in PharoOB and that somebody update the configurationOfOmnibrowser and that we get DONE :).

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Pavel Krivanek

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 13 mars 2011, at 07:59, Guillermo Polito wrote: > >> Forgot the faded one? Â Like the idea :) >> > Here it is. But, I prefer the other one with saturated colors. > > >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Just got an idea. What about using a picture of some "physical" pharo. >> On every new version we can change the pharo. >> I'm not good at graphics but here is a sketch of the idea using a picture of mine (in small size). >> I put the original and the faded one. >> >> Noury >> >> >> >> On 12 mars 2011, at 23:39, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> > On 12 March 2011 21:15, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> +1. >> >> I suggest to change the background for every new version. >> >> Also put the version number next the logo. >> >> >> > +1 now the question what background should be used by 1.2 release? >> > >> >> >> >> On 12 mars 2011, at 20:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> >> >>> If I could decide, I would vote for it :) Â I like it. >> >>> >> >>> If you agree, then it is very easy to add to hudson, just modify (marcus?) the Pharo.st used to build the images to do something like this: Â World backgroundImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: 'pharoBackground.png') layout: #scaled. >> >>> >> >>> I attach here the picture used. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers >> >>> >> >>> Mariano >> >>> <pharoBackground.png> >> >> >> >> Noury Bouraqadi >> >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >> >> -- >> >> -6th National Conference on >> >> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >> >> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >> >> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >> >> >> >> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >> >> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >> >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >> >> >> >> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >> >> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >> >> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > >> >> Noury Bouraqadi >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury >> -- >> -6th National Conference on >> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ >> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France >> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ >> >> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference >> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 >> >> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) >> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ >> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Noury Bouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > -- > -6th National Conference on > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3387 in pharo: Package name should not contain crptic characters

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #6 on issue 3387 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: Package name should not contain crptic characters http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3387 Tx

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Actions done in Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > we should look at the scriptloader log. > > > yes...I also checked (quickly) the issues in the bug tracker....I added all my findings/summary in > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo Yes this was a start to make a list Now we should continue it > > Stef > > On Mar 12, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Please, we need help to write down / summarize all the actions done in Pharo 1.2. > > > > Include them here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo > > > > cheers > > > > Mariano > > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] the glamorous toolkit project

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Tudor/Ben, did you think about "rewrting" the new UI tools like Recent Messages, Finder, etc...using Glamour ? With Ben we are targeting removing StringHolder, so we will rewrite some tools (but not in Glamour) to make sure that we can work without glamour and make sure that we can get rid of StringHolder and friends. In parallel if people make Glamour working well and fully then at some point it could be the ide for Pharo but we need some fallbacks and we will be working on that with Ben. Stef > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > +1000 Great initiative and most welcomed. > And as you said, even if you don't do most, a planing, coordination > and bugging people around helps as well :) > > On 12 March 2011 08:25, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to promote the idea of projects in Pharo. The concept is simple: we should build new infrastructures that go beyond small fixes and that require the concerted work of multiple people over a longer period of time. > > > > A project has a clear goal, and is led by someone. That someone is not necessarily the one that writes all the code (like we might tend to do it), but simply one that ensures that the project advances, that the different contributions are integrated, and that things are not left at 90%. > > > > I would like to announce the Glamorous Tool project. The goal of this project is to provide a new set of tools for developing with Pharo. It is to be developed on top of Glamour, and it should address at least the followings: > > - Coder (ex-System Browser) > > - Debugger > > - Inspector > > - Playground (ex-Workspace - it's not called Workspace anymore because I would like to encourage people not to "work" there) > > - Chaser (senders, implementors and references) > > > > The project spans several topics. For example: > > - Glamour support > > - Morphic enhancements: > > --- Proper TextMorph with keybindings and context sensitiveness > > --- Collapsable Panes > > --- Scalable tabs > > --- Parallel rendering > > - Suitable models > > --- RPackage > > --- Code introspection > > --- Debugger model > > - Testing > > --- Because these tools are so critical, they should be robust > > --- OB is a good example for the testing part > > - Usability > > --- Principle: Spawning a window might be easy, but it is not effective > > --- Principle: Uniformity > > --- Principle: Less concepts are better than many > > - Graphic design of skins and icons > > > > - Weak announcements > > you can make it bold (or what else you do to mark that it is done and > ready to be integrated :) > > > - Performance > > > > > > I will lead it, and you are welcome to participate. The today sprint is a good occasion to take a look. The current code can be found at: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Actions done in Pharo 1.2

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > we should look at the scriptloader log. > > yes...I also checked (quickly) the issues in the bug tracker....I added all my findings/summary in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo Stef > > On Mar 12, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Please, we need help to write down / summarize all the actions done in > Pharo 1.2. > > > > Include them here: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo > > > > cheers > > > > Mariano > > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Do we want this for Pharo 1.2 and futures?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I've always ignored them ;) Me too. For me, we can remove them. But I am wondering if other people find it useful...maybe newcomers? (this is why I also included pharo-users mailing list) cheers mariano > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> In Pharo 1.0 and 1.1 I used to include certain files in addition to the >> .image and .changes. These files were: changelog.txt, installScript.st and >> packages.txt >> So...what do you think? are they (still) useful ? if true, then we >> should add it to hudson. If not, we just ignore it. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] the glamorous toolkit project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Tudor/Ben, did you think about "rewrting" the new UI tools like Recent Messages, Finder, etc...using Glamour ? On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > +1000 Great initiative and most welcomed. > And as you said, even if you don't do most, a planing, coordination > and bugging people around helps as well :) > > On 12 March 2011 08:25, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to promote the idea of projects in Pharo. The concept is > simple: we should build new infrastructures that go beyond small fixes and > that require the concerted work of multiple people over a longer period of > time. > > > > A project has a clear goal, and is led by someone. That someone is not > necessarily the one that writes all the code (like we might tend to do it), > but simply one that ensures that the project advances, that the different > contributions are integrated, and that things are not left at 90%. > > > > I would like to announce the Glamorous Tool project. The goal of this > project is to provide a new set of tools for developing with Pharo. It is to > be developed on top of Glamour, and it should address at least the > followings: > > - Coder (ex-System Browser) > > - Debugger > > - Inspector > > - Playground (ex-Workspace - it's not called Workspace anymore because I > would like to encourage people not to "work" there) > > - Chaser (senders, implementors and references) > > > > The project spans several topics. For example: > > - Glamour support > > - Morphic enhancements: > > --- Proper TextMorph with keybindings and context sensitiveness > > --- Collapsable Panes > > --- Scalable tabs > > --- Parallel rendering > > - Suitable models > > --- RPackage > > --- Code introspection > > --- Debugger model > > - Testing > > --- Because these tools are so critical, they should be robust > > --- OB is a good example for the testing part > > - Usability > > --- Principle: Spawning a window might be easy, but it is not effective > > --- Principle: Uniformity > > --- Principle: Less concepts are better than many > > - Graphic design of skins and icons > > > > - Weak announcements > > you can make it bold (or what else you do to mark that it is done and > ready to be integrated :) > > > - Performance > > > > > > I will lead it, and you are welcome to participate. The today sprint is a > good occasion to take a look. The current code can be found at: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Update process broken by 13084

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes now I see it. I will try to see what we can do. Argh..... On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > See title. > Probably caused by saving from multiple open copies of the same image so > the .changes file source was exported from was corrupted :) > > Cheers, > Henry >

March 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to add the background picture to the image like we did with Pharo 1.1 ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi all. Choosing a picture is complicated, because not all people like it, and you have to be very careful with colors and themes. I liked the one of Pharo 1.1 because it is the same background it is used in pharo website, in pharo casts, and in all pharo slides. I would like to continue with it, and those who want a real picture, you can even do it from the settings browser ;) For example, for my project, Marea, I always put a picture of a tidy... Cheers Mariano On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 13 mars 2011, at 07:59, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Forgot the faded one? Like the idea :) > > > Here it is. But, I prefer the other one with saturated colors. > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Just got an idea. What about using a picture of some "physical" pharo. > > On every new version we can change the pharo. > > I'm not good at graphics but here is a sketch of the idea using a picture > of mine (in small size). > > I put the original and the faded one. > > > > Noury > > > > > > > > On 12 mars 2011, at 23:39, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > > > On 12 March 2011 21:15, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> +1. > > >> I suggest to change the background for every new version. > > >> Also put the version number next the logo. > > >> > > > +1 now the question what background should be used by 1.2 release? > > > > > >> > > >> On 12 mars 2011, at 20:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > >> > > >>> If I could decide, I would vote for it :) I like it. > > >>> > > >>> If you agree, then it is very easy to add to hudson, just modify > (marcus?) the Pharo.st used to build the images to do something like this: > World backgroundImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: > 'pharoBackground.png') layout: #scaled. > > >>> > > >>> I attach here the picture used. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers > > >>> > > >>> Mariano > > >>> <pharoBackground.png> > > >> > > >> Noury Bouraqadi > > >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > >> -- > > >> -6th National Conference on > > >> âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > > >> 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > > >> http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > >> > > >> -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > > >> 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > > >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > >> > > >> -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > > >> http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > > >> 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > > > > Noury Bouraqadi > > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > > -- > > -6th National Conference on > > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Noury Bouraqadi > http://car.mines-douai.fr/noury > -- > -6th National Conference on > âControl Architecture of Robotsâ > 24-25 may 2011, Grenoble area, France > http://car2011.inrialpes.fr/ > > -19th ESUG International Smalltalk Conference > 22-26 August 2011, Edinburgh, UK > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > -19Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents (JFSMAâ11) > http://www.univ-valenciennes.fr/congres/jfsma2011/ > 17-19 Octobre 2011, Valenciennes, France > > > > > >

March 13, 2011