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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Marcus Denker

>> >> Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is *finished*. >> >> If we want to do that, we need to do that *not after the release is released* >> but before. This whole thing just shows that "I only look at 1.2 when it is released" *DOES NOT WORK*. 1.2 Core was "Release Canditate" for *two months*. Release Canditate means "this will be released *unchanged* if no problems are found". So isn't *that* the point to do things that could need a fix in the release? I am really tempted to declare 1.3 stable now and abandon any concept of release, as it's a complete waste of time. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] GSOC 2010 results

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 18, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > While reading about the last GSOC 2010 at: > > http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-esug/downloads/list > > I wonder what happened to the results. Are they just available > to play with them in private. > > Or will Pharo/the overall Smalltalk community profit > from them since they can be usefull for the next step. > Therefore especially two questions: > > 1. Is the Namespace code conceptually the one we want to > have for Pharo and if so are there any plans to > integrate it (Pharo 1.3/1.4./... ?) No > 2. Is the code from Cross-Dialect Smalltalk FFI ready > or what is the state/strategy for Alien/FFI these days. Yes > > Thx > T. > > > > > -- > GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit > gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl >

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Tudor Girba

+1 Doru On 18 Mar 2011, at 08:07, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: >>> >>> >>> And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. >>> >>> Marcus >> I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? >> Think I read so in an issue, or on the list. > > > Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is *finished*. > > If we want to do that, we need to do that *not after the release is released* > but before. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Beauty is where we see it."

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 18, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: >> >> >> And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. >> >> Marcus > I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? > Think I read so in an issue, or on the list. Yes, but it was not done for 1.2 and 1.2 is *finished*. If we want to do that, we need to do that *not after the release is released* but before. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] - 33 StrikeFontSet

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 18.03.2011 08:03, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 18.03.2011 07:48, laurent laffont wrote: >> Nobody know this stuff ? >> >> Laurent > > Know it? Sort of. > Enough to not write a correct comment? Getting there would probably > induce extreme frustration in the process, which I in no way need. > Sorry. > > Cheers, > Henry > Maybe: "This is not something you will understand completely just by looking at the code for 30+ minutes" :) Cheers, Henry

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 18.03.2011 07:41, Marcus Denker wrote: > On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) >> overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks >> everything :-( >> >> Lukas >> >> On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas Renggli<renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. >>>> I wonder if we should adopt your OB codebase for that? Or do >>>> we wait for 1.2.1? >>> I would wait a bit. I noticed that the debugger is quite broken. I >>> only get the pre-debug window, but clicking on any button opens >>> another pre-debug window. I don't have time to investigate, is this >>> also in core or some side-effect of loading/unloading packages? > I would not unload packaged. > > Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am > sure you will have problems. > > And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. > > Marcus I thought the general idea was to remove SimpleMorphic before releases? Think I read so in an issue, or on the list. Cheers, Henry

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] - 33 StrikeFontSet

by Henrik Sperre Johansen

On 18.03.2011 07:48, laurent laffont wrote: > Nobody know this stuff ? > > Laurent Know it? Sort of. Enough to not write a correct comment? Getting there would probably induce extreme frustration in the process, which I in no way need. Sorry. Cheers, Henry

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] - 33 StrikeFontSet

by laurent laffont

Nobody know this stuff ? Laurent On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:14 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Someone ? > > Laurent. > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Today: StrikeFontSet >> >> >> Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment >> Rules: >> #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment >> will be integrated with name of the author(s). >> #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. >> Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest >> >> Laurent >> > >

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] prebuilt core 1.2 final

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 18, 2011, at 7:09 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Ahh, looks like SimpleMorphic has some (probably unintentional) > overrides of core methods. Unloading the package pretty much breaks > everything :-( > > Lukas > > On 18 March 2011 07:02, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Very good! We then can release the 1.2 Full soon, too. >>> I wonder if we should adopt your OB codebase for that? Or do >>> we wait for 1.2.1? >> >> I would wait a bit. I noticed that the debugger is quite broken. I >> only get the pre-debug window, but clicking on any button opens >> another pre-debug window. I don't have time to investigate, is this >> also in core or some side-effect of loading/unloading packages? I would not unload packaged. Everything not tested is broken, and so if you do things like that I am sure you will have problems. And nobody ever unloaded anything from Core. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Where is squeaksource sources?

by Tobias Pape

Am 2011-03-18 um 02:59 schrieb Igor Stasenko: > I think i know what is wrong with it. > > When you uploading a file, it instead of closing connection and saying > bye.. starts processing input without releasing other end.. > which is simply stupid. > > I just uploaded VMMaker package.. and now my image freezed, waiting > till SqS will calculate diffs and then send mail with it to mailing > list.. :( Since about 1.5 years i suspect a socket bug which pops up randomly. AFAIK, Squeaksource.com is running on an 3.7 or 3.8 image with Seaside 2.7. Find it on http://squeaksource.com/ss.html However, I don't think you'll find what you're looking for, to my knowledge, the relevant parts are part of the Image, not the squeaksource code. So Long, -Tobias PS: If you want, try out Squeaksource3 and tell me if it is working for your test.

March 18, 2011