February 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: SqueakSource down... again

by Michael Haupt

Hi, Am 21.02.2011 um 19:31 schrieb Miguel CobÃ¡ <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com>: >> at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance. > > I think the number of users that hit squeaksource.com vs HPS's own > everyday is a key factor in the perceived performance and net uptime of each installation. Those SqueakSource standstills *never* occurred after we transitioned to the now-running installation. Before switching, we often experienced standstills as well. That's two simple facts, and the number of users does not play a role in this observation. I do not know the precise number of accesses per day, but around the end of the semester, when students are supposed to deliver their projects, it gets "hot". (I believe that, this term, we had some 80 students in 16 teams.) No freezes. Best, Michael

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3571 in pharo: [Failing Test] Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testUndeclared

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #2 on issue 3571 by laurent....(a)gmail.com: [Failing Test] Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testUndeclared http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3571 SMock / DefaultStubs fixed. ConfigurationOfMocketry updated

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 virtual sprint

by laurent laffont

reminder. Laurent. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:39 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I've updated http://www.doodle.com/byvynpkmm87hc3x8 with IRC instructions. > > Laurent > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:22 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Guillermo, >> >> please subscribe on doodle: http://www.doodle.com/byvynpkmm87hc3x8 so we >> know when to join over IRC. >> >> >> Laurent >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Guillermo Polito < >> guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Next week? I can join a llittle :). >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Serge Stinckwich < >>> serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> No one seems to be motivated to have a virtual sprint to release Pharo >>>> 1.2 ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:28 PM, laurent laffont >>>> <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Serge Stinckwich >>>> > <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Launch a doodle for a day long virtual sprint all over the world ;-) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.doodle.com/byvynpkmm87hc3x8 >>>> > Laurent. >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:54 AM, laurent laffont >>>> >> <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> > Which day you prefer ? >>>> >> > Laurent >>>> >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:00 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>>> >> > <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> If there is internet connection where I will be hacking with alain >>>> we >>>> >> >> can >>>> >> >> participate :). >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Stef >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Feb 14, 2011, at 10:01 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> > Could we organize a Pharo 1.2 virtual sprint over IRC to >>>> resolve, >>>> >> >> > kill, >>>> >> >> > eleminate, eradicate, destroy remaining issues ? and learn >>>> together >>>> >> >> > too. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > I can do this next week from monday to wednesday evening (France >>>> time >>>> >> >> > zone). >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > Laurent >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Serge Stinckwich >>>> >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >>>> >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>> >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Serge Stinckwich >>>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >>>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Feb. 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] ci.pharo-project.org down

by laurent laffont

There some aliens it seems http://ci.pharo-project.org Laurent

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Cobol is the new language to know?

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Geert, I'll use my consultant's hat to contribute on this. My company lives from selling advice on these matters. Notice that in the table of the referred link: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/legacy-languages-prove-lucrac… which you point to, Cobol and Smalltalk share the same status of "Retire Now". So the Channel Register interpretation of the reports has not been that sharp at all. Also, the company issuing the report is an Aussie centered firm, as the problems we're facing in the companies around the world (in the mainframe) is more what to do with the Natural/Adabas platform, where Natural is a higher level language than Cobol but has a high impedance for conversion to Java (w/o opening the can of worms of running Java in mainframes). The FUD about Smalltalk going to become unsupported must be counteracted by the pertinent Organizations, like ESUG in Europe and STIC, and of course the Software companies themselves like VW and Instantiations. When I worked at Gartner, they had a similar table which included Smalltalk in the doom-way in "five years" ca. Y2K and recently they changed their mind a little bit: http://blogs.gartner.com/mark_driver/2008/10/09/remember-smalltalk/ and http://news.squeak.org/2008/10/11/smalltalk-is-cool-again-says-gartner/ (just a sample, Google is your friend if you're really interested). OTOH, notice that another Research company whose business is selling 'insight' says something about the primadonna du jour: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/2010/12/java-is-a-dead-end-for-enterpri… HTH -- Cesar Rabak Em 21/02/2011 08:35, Geert Claes < geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com > escreveu: I just cringed when I read: "The Sydney-based Object Consulting has released a paper detailing those languages which will no longer be supported in the near future, including the likes of .NET 2.0, J2SE 1.4 and Cold Fusion (according to Object Consulting they have a three-year shelf life), while anything on Smalltalk or FoxPro should be junked or moved to a new system immediately as a result of non-support and no further development of the environments." http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/02/20/cobol_is_the_new_language_to_kn… http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/02/20/cobol_is_the_new_language_to_kn… -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Cobol-is-the-new-language-to-know-tp3317188p3317188.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] 16 - GoferReinitialize

by laurent laffont

Today: GoferReinitialize Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment Rules: #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment will be integrated with name of the author(s). #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest Laurent

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, > University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > > Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the > tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around > one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. > Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them > closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a > specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest > will come in time. > > ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would > wish to work on (see below). > > Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): > - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: > --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and > toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) > --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) > --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) > --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space > filling > --- BreadcrumbMorph > --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs > - Test and enhance the current IDE > - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, > SMxPluggableTextMorph etc > - Prototype a new ToolSet solution > - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit > --- Debugger > --- Coder > --- Multipage Workspace > --- CodeBubbles > - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) > - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations > - Evaluate ToolBuilder > - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic > > A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be > tackled if there are enough people for the first one. > > Cheers, > Adrian and Doru > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > > >

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [COTDC] 15 - PSMCPatchMorph

by laurent laffont

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > I'm a Monticello tool based on polymorph used to browse diffs. > Activate me with the setting named 'Use Polymorph difference tools'. Thank you Laurent. > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, laurent laffont < > laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Today: PSMCPatchMorph >> >> >> Comment Of The Day Contest - One Day One Comment >> Rules: >> #1: Each day a not commented class is elected. Each day the best comment >> will be integrated with name of the author(s). >> #2: If you cannot comment it, deprecate it. >> Results: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommentOfTheDayContest >> >> Laurent >> > >

Feb. 21, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: SqueakSource down... again

by Tobias Pape

Am 2011-02-21 um 19:25 schrieb Michael Haupt: > Hi, > > at HPI, we have a SqueakSource with a GemStone backend. The only downtimes we experienced were due to necessary maintenance. â¦ and I'm working on bringing that to Seaside 3. When my examinations are over, I will release my results of that projects :). It's almost doneâ¢. So Long, -Tobias

Feb. 21, 2011

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I would like to remind you that this Saturday, February 26, we organize a Sprint at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps Further details can be found below. Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). Cheers, Doru Begin forwarded message: > From: Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > Date: 1 February 2011 16:38:30 CET > To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Cc: Adrian Lienhard <alienhard(a)netstyle.ch> > Subject: [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26 > > Hi, > > We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > > Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest will come in time. > > ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). > > Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): > - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: > --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) > --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) > --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) > --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space filling > --- BreadcrumbMorph > --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs > - Test and enhance the current IDE > - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, SMxPluggableTextMorph etc > - Prototype a new ToolSet solution > - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit > --- Debugger > --- Coder > --- Multipage Workspace > --- CodeBubbles > - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) > - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations > - Evaluate ToolBuilder > - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic > > A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. > > Cheers, > Adrian and Doru > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

Feb. 21, 2011