February 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 broken on Hudson due to XMLSupport changes

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Marcus I would not add XML in dev. just dev tools no extra package. So yes let us remove XML package. I already asked for that. Now the problem encountered reveal something deeper. STef On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > I personally thing if we ever want to release 1.2, we need to start to be more radical. > > The XML package breaks the build? So let's remove it completely. Let's ship 1.2, but without > all the packages that are problematic. > > Same for any other package that has a failing test. > > Marcus > > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Still I do not understand: >> >> Evaluate this in an updated Pharo core 1.2: >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfXMLSupport'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfXMLSupport) project latestVersion >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> returns 1.1.8 [ConfigurationOfXMLSupport] >> >> This is now broken by Otto. OK, he broke it, he has to repair it ;) >> >> But independent from that, the method in: >> >> ConfigurationOfPharo>>version12beta2: >> >> includes the following: >> >> project: 'XMLSupport' with: '1.1.6'. >> >> So I would have expected that for Pharo "1.2-beta2" the 1.1.6 (and not the >> 1.1.8) of XMLSupport gets loaded and Hudson should have been green. >> >> Why does Metacello load the 1.1.8 when a previous project version (1.1.6) >> is referenced? >> >> Dale, any comments? >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> >> >> -- >> Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir >> belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de >> > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Is repository down for Magma?

by Miguel CobÃ¡

El vie, 25-02-2011 a las 13:40 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: > BTW this is why I would like to have a copy of all the packages when we publish a configuration. > So that the world can explode and the user does not get impacted. + 1 > > Stef > > > > Unfortunately for all us, Chris deleted without notice, the versions > > from Magma repository that were used by the Metacello configuration to > > install Magma. So Magma isn't installable with Metacello anymore. > > -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://twitter.com/MiguelCobaMtz http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 broken on Hudson due to XMLSupport changes

by Otto Behrens

I've downloaded the PharoOneClick1.2.zip file and am evaluating (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: '1.2-beta2') load now. This is the best "entry point" that I could determine from the console output. Please let me know if this is OK. My bandwidth is not amazing, but it's running. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Otto Behrens <otto(a)finworks.biz> wrote: >> - For XML I can fix this tonight if Otto don't want / can do it. > > 1.1.9 was blessed as #development and 1.1.8 as #release. I changed the > blessing 1.1.9 to #released. I do believe that the 1.1.9 version works > well. 1.1.8 is now #broken. > > Sorry about that. Thanks for the help. > > I'm doing a load in Pharo 1.2 now... >

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 broken on Hudson due to XMLSupport changes

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Otto Behrens <otto(a)finworks.biz> wrote: > > - For XML I can fix this tonight if Otto don't want / can do it. > > 1.1.9 was blessed as #development and 1.1.8 as #release. I changed the > blessing 1.1.9 to #released. I do believe that the 1.1.9 version works > well. 1.1.8 is now #broken. > > Sorry about that. Thanks for the help. > > I'm doing a load in Pharo 1.2 now... > Thank you Otto Laurent.

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 broken on Hudson due to XMLSupport changes

by Otto Behrens

> - For XML I can fix this tonight if Otto don't want / can do it. 1.1.9 was blessed as #development and 1.1.8 as #release. I changed the blessing 1.1.9 to #released. I do believe that the 1.1.9 version works well. 1.1.8 is now #broken. Sorry about that. Thanks for the help. I'm doing a load in Pharo 1.2 now...

Feb. 25, 2011

[Pharo-project] About UIManager and UITheme for MenuMorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi gary I was reading http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3728 which converts MenuMorph new -> UIManager default menuClass And I was wondering: - UIManager regulate coarse grained interaction - UITheme takes into account settings Now UIManager does not provide handy MenuMorph creation method besides choose.... and friends. And now I'm looking at TEasilyThemed and it refers to MenuMorph so I'm wondering if in headless we could not still have popup menu raised. Stef

Feb. 25, 2011

[Pharo-project] Could we clean/remove some of the old themes?

by stephane ducasse

I would suggest to remove/package in a separate package StandardSqueak to remove the Pro theme (because the fonts are broken) to rename softSqueak into Colorful Stef

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3743 in pharo: Fix Finder UI (add shortcuts and more commands)

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Accepted Comment #8 on issue 3743 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: Fix Finder UI (add shortcuts and more commands) http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3743 so ben the idea is that you should resolve the conflicts because we do not know how to resolve them but I'm sure you do.

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3759 in pharo: Stragger -> stagger

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #1 on issue 3759 by aplan...(a)gmail.com: Stragger -> stagger http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3759 in 13066

Feb. 25, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.2 broken on Hudson due to XMLSupport changes

by Esteban Lorenzano

btw... 1.1.9 loaded well for me in 1.1.1 (while 1.1.8 was failing) El 25/02/2011, a las 10:23a.m., laurent laffont escribiÃ³: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Markus wrote: > >The XML package breaks the build? So let's remove it completely. Let's ship >1.2, but without all the packages that are problematic. > > It's not that the package is problematic - the Configs are problematic > > Laurent wrote: > >For XML I can fix this tonight if Otto don't want / can do it. > > Yes, the problematic 1.1.8 version of XMLSupport has to be fixed. > But it is not yet used by Pharo ... so this is not the reason: > > What strikes me is that ConfigurationOfPharo STILL references > the working 1.1.6 version BUT the corrupt 1.1.8 version is > loaded instead. > > May be another ConfigurationOfXXXX reference XMLSupport ? > > > Laurent > > > > > THIS is the reason why Hudson is read! > > If you look at ConfigurationOfPharo then it hasnt changed > since 18 February 2011 (ConfigurationOfPharo-GuillermoPolito.134) > and if you load "ConfigurationOfXMLSupport-DaleHenrichs.46" > from 9 February 2011 and check what Otto Behrens changed > then you will notice that he did'nt touch the 1.1.6 version > of ConfigurationOfXMLSupport. > > He just added a baseline/version 1.1.8 and 1.1.9. > > So the "old" version 1.1.6 which is used by ConfigurationOfPharo > was not touched either. > > To me this looks like a Metacello resolving remote project > versions problem? (that's why I CC:ed Dale) > > > >But I agree that it seems few people care about 1.2. Sad, I like it far > >better than 1.1.1. > > Yes, but I think we opened 1.3 too early. I think thats > why community does not concentrate on Pharo dev 1.2 too much > and continues to work on 1.3 core instead. > > Thats good for moving Pharo forward - but not for outside > visibility. How should others deliver software on top of Pharo > if Pharo isnt delivered itself? > > >I personally thing if we ever want to release 1.2, we need to start to be >more radical. > > Yes - but not by throwing out broken packages. What if Hudson > is broken by a problem in clas Object. Would you throw out Kernel? > > Instead I would propose for the harvesters/integrators to stop > integrating stuff for 1.3 until Pharo 1.2 is out of the door... > > Bye > T. > -- > Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir > belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de > >

Feb. 25, 2011