February 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3482 in pharo: InterimSoundMorph references to SketchMorph

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #12 on issue 3482 by ryd...(a)gmail.com: InterimSoundMorph references to SketchMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3482 Then move SoundService to System-Sound? If anything, the System-Applications package should be removed, moving AppRegistry in some core library, and the rest to their respective logical spots... Finding a good place for PrettyPrinting seems like a challenge though, unless you recategorize TPureBehavor>>prettyPrinterClass :) Speaking of which, it might be a good idea to move Beeper to System-Sound as well, and rewrite uses of Beeper beep to SoundService default beep. With these moves, I think the existing SoundSystems will only rely on System-Sound.

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3482 in pharo: InterimSoundMorph references to SketchMorph

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #11 on issue 3482 by stephane...(a)gmail.com: InterimSoundMorph references to SketchMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3482 Because you do not want to have SoundSystem dependent on System-Application. Sound should be autonomous and when it registers as been a soundservice then the sound service delegate its preference to it. I think that it makes sense. Even if I would remove SoundService completely.

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool! Thanks for this initiative. Doru I would like to have a plan for SimpleMorphic. Stef > We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > > Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest will come in time. > > ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). > > Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): > - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: > --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) > --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) > --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) > --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space filling > --- BreadcrumbMorph > --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs > - Test and enhance the current IDE > - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, SMxPluggableTextMorph etc > - Prototype a new ToolSet solution > - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit > --- Debugger > --- Coder > --- Multipage Workspace > --- CodeBubbles > - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) > - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations > - Evaluate ToolBuilder > - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic > > A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. > > Cheers, > Adrian and Doru > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > >

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Gary Chambers

Though I can't be there in person I can make time to be available on the Pharo IRC channel... Sounds like fun! Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Cc: "Adrian Lienhard" <alienhard(a)netstyle.ch> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26 Hi, We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest will come in time. ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space filling --- BreadcrumbMorph --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs - Test and enhance the current IDE - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, SMxPluggableTextMorph etc - Prototype a new ToolSet solution - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit --- Debugger --- Coder --- Multipage Workspace --- CodeBubbles - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations - Evaluate ToolBuilder - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. Cheers, Adrian and Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 February 2011 16:38, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): > http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps > > Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest will come in time. > Very very nice topic for sprint! UI are long awaiting for refurbishing... ahh.. There was a lot of ideas we discussed with Gary over these years, and many of them should find the way to the world at some day. alas.. i'm too busy with other boring stuff to do fun things with UI :( > ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). > > Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): > - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: > --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) > --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) > --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) > --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space filling > --- BreadcrumbMorph > --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs > - Test and enhance the current IDE > - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, SMxPluggableTextMorph etc > - Prototype a new ToolSet solution Doru, there is already a working prototoype. It should work out of the box , and if not, it will require some minor changes. We need to take a time and review it and see if it needs some changes. The changeset i am talking about is buried in mailing list. But it can be easily found if you follow the links at issue tracker. > - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit > --- Debugger > --- Coder > --- Multipage Workspace > --- CodeBubbles > - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) > - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations > - Evaluate ToolBuilder > - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic > > A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. > > Cheers, > Adrian and Doru > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get." > > > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Tracing bugs/corrections/regressions ... in Pharo

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 February 2011 15:44, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> On 1 February 2011 01:47, Nicolas Cellier >> <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The fact is that, while many patches find their way from Squeak to >>> Pharo, very few take the other way. >>> >> >> Frankly, i had the opposite impression. >> For instance, Sets with nil already have more than year in Squeak, >> but still didn't found their way into Pharo. > > This not related to what Nicolas wrote. He wrote that a lot more patches go > from Squeak to Pharo, than from Pharo to Squeak. The latter is close to > zero, while the first is between 300 and 800 (based on the Pharo issue > tracker. 400-900 including the non-closed issues). So I wonder why did you > have the opposite impression. > > I doubt that Squeak wants to integrate Etoys cleanup :). Squeak community are much more conservative towards major refactorings/changing APIs etc etc. And given that most major changes in Pharo are for either throwing out some old stuff or do complete rewrite, this gives an answer why you don't see changes flowing widely from Pharo to Squeak. As for minor level changes, or kernel/compiler changes - we are in sync .. because both camps paying attention in keeping core in healthy state. But you should know it yourself, because you are taking part in that. :) > Levente > > snip > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 1, 2011

[Pharo-project] [ANN] pharo focused sprint - bern, feb 26

by Tudor Girba

Hi, We would like to organize a Pharo Sprint on Saturday, February 26 at SCG, University of Berne, Switzerland (room 107): http://scg.unibe.ch/contact/maps Unlike other sprints, this would not be about fixing things from the tracker, but about building something new and reviewing the situation around one central topic. For this one, the main topic will be Morphic and the IDE. Why? Because it is time to rethink our day-to-day tools and bring them closer to this century (ok, maybe decade :)). It is Ok if you are not a specialist. It is more important to want to participate and learn. The rest will come in time. ***** Please let us know by mail if you plan to attend and what you would wish to work on (see below). Proposed tasks (other tasks are possible in the same area): - Enhancements of Morphic widgets: --- TabGroupMorph with lazy pages, closable tabs, overflow handling and toolbars (a start exists in Glamour) --- High level support for collapsable panes (based on the input of Gary) --- SearchMorph with multiple groups of items (like in Spotlight) --- MorphTreeMorph integrated with GeneralScrollPane to allow for space filling --- BreadcrumbMorph --- Hyperlinks in TextMorphs - Test and enhance the current IDE - Evaluate TextMorphs: NewTextMorph, PluggableTextMorph, SMxPluggableTextMorph etc - Prototype a new ToolSet solution - Enhancements of Glamour and of the Glamorous Toolkit --- Debugger --- Coder --- Multipage Workspace --- CodeBubbles - Develop WeakAnnouncement (start from the implementation of Lukas) - Evaluate the various keybinding implementations - Evaluate ToolBuilder - Evaluate the path to adopt SimpleMorphic A second working topic is getting Monticello faster, but this will only be tackled if there are enough people for the first one. Cheers, Adrian and Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Tracing bugs/corrections/regressions ... in Pharo

by Levente Uzonyi

On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 1 February 2011 01:47, Nicolas Cellier > <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> The fact is that, while many patches find their way from Squeak to >> Pharo, very few take the other way. >> > > Frankly, i had the opposite impression. > For instance, Sets with nil already have more than year in Squeak, > but still didn't found their way into Pharo. This not related to what Nicolas wrote. He wrote that a lot more patches go from Squeak to Pharo, than from Pharo to Squeak. The latter is close to zero, while the first is between 300 and 800 (based on the Pharo issue tracker. 400-900 including the non-closed issues). So I wonder why did you have the opposite impression. Levente snip

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Sound package fixes

by Henrik Johansen

On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:29 27PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > i hope that time which Stephane spent yesterday on merging changes from squeak > will not be put in vane... I'm afraid so mostly., mainly because I already did that in version 49 of PharoSound :) I merged the UI change though, removing a SketchMorph reference and updating local temp declaration scopes. :D Had not really looked much on that package. With exception of formatting differences, the soundEnabled refactoring which I don't understand the purpose of, and some random squeak-specific things** which shouldn't be there, the major parts were already in. Cheers, Henry **Just for the record: - an FFT method referencing Pen - SampledInstrument readSampleSetFrom: using Utilities instead of UIManager default - Use of asArray sort instead of sorted - Using Sounds keys do: [:key | ... Sounds at: key ...] instead of Sounds keyAndValuesDo: [:key :value | ... value ...] in

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3484 in pharo: Windows VM in One click image for 1.2 not yet customized

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #5 on issue 3484 by Torsten....(a)astares.de: Windows VM in One click image for 1.2 not yet customized http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3484 see also http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3645

Feb. 1, 2011