February 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] thinking about a community model of funding

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> >> Hi guys >> >> I would like to see a model like that around the pharo virtual machine emerging >> http://phk.freebsd.dk/VML/ >> >> stef >> > > I was hung reading this page and look interesting (not only to Pharo) > else a lot of other open projects we do with Pharo. > > Personally I never tried this type of collection of money, but my > suspicion is that to work you need a critical mass of users, including > businesses Yes let us create it. I imagine that people would love to have a vm that is actively developed and not only by two guys that can have truck factor effect. No? I think that I would like to be able to say to people: invest on us because we are building a system that will survive us. Surviving us: - clean robust documented..... - easy to build.... and to my ears this looks like properties I like Stef

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] thinking about a community model of funding

by Igor Stasenko

On 4 February 2011 12:48, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/2/4 StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Hi guys >> >> I would like to see a model like that around the pharo virtual machine emerging >> Â Â Â Â http://phk.freebsd.dk/VML/ >> >> stef >> > > I was hung reading this page and look interesting (not only to Pharo) > else a lot of other open projects we do with Pharo. > > Personally I never tried this type of collection of money, but my > suspicion is that to work you need a critical mass of users, including > businesses > This is two-way road. And this is what Stephane trying to do from his side: enabling people to support Pharo in other ways than just coding/bugfixing :). > GermÃ¡n. > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] News

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I love that! Gorgeous! Stef > -> Image after tests have run is now saved as a zip with a better name. e.g: > https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Pharo/job/Pharo%201.2/lastSucce… > > -> Now we have a scheme in place for re-using generated images further "down" in the build stream > This means: Core is updated, then saved. Then a build of Full is triggered automatically, re-using the updated Core. > Full then is saved, usable for other projects (ie clients like Seaside or experimental things ike RPackacke or Opal) > > For one, this saves some build time and it makes builds on top of Full actually practical. > (this means my Opal image is always up-to date and I can start just with fresh image in the morning) > > -> Therefore, we have now a "Pharo-Clients" tab: > > https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Pharo-Clients/ > > I am adding Seaside now, but we can add whatever we want to have knowledge on how changes influence clients. > (So if you want your project here, just send a mail with build instructions!) > > -> For Coral I am experimenting with dedicated regression test projects. This will be good for many things in the image, > too. (e.g. writing new sources, condensing changes, recompiling, decompiling...) > > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

Feb. 4, 2011

[Pharo-project] Issue 3655 in pharo: Tools->Configuration browser fails with DNU in Pharo1.3

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Status: Accepted Owner: marcus.d...(a)gmail.com New issue 3655 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Tools->Configuration browser fails with DNU in Pharo1.3 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3655 Tools->Configuration browser fails with DNU in Pharo1.3

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Network training

by Levente Uzonyi

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, jannik.laval wrote: > Hi, > > I am playing with Network package. > I am giving a practical work to my students, in Java :( > And I am doing the same in Pharo to understand the Network package :))) > > A first question: > I use "NetNameResolver localHostAddress" to retrieve my network address. Now in computers, there are multiple addresses. > I do not find a method to retrieve a collection of my address and it seems to be not possible, because it uses primLocalAddress, which is a primitive returning one local address. > > Does it exist something to have all my ip address? Yes. The network changes that were introduced in Pharo 1.1 and were reverted before the release contained such methods. In theory both the VM side and client side code is ready for this (Etoys uses it on OLPC), but some VMs (e.g. Cog) don't have the latest plugin versions, so the primitives don't work there. Levente > > Thank you, > > > > --- > Jannik Laval > > >

Feb. 4, 2011

[Pharo-project] Issue 3654 in pharo: Fixes from Netstyle for 1.1.2

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Status: Accepted Owner: marcus.d...(a)gmail.com Labels: Milestone-1.1.1 New issue 3654 by marcus.d...(a)gmail.com: Fixes from Netstyle for 1.1.2 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3654 The fixes we add to 1.1.1 are: * http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2750 This is important for image segments. Apart from that we use a plain 1.1.1 image stripped with #cleanUpForProduction. * http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3498 This is the fix for the concurrency issue in linked list that kills your image. I would certainly add this one to 1.1.2 * http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3542 This one is "Add SmalltalkImage>>#gcBiasToGrow: and friends to core". It is not critical, but we use it to be able to modify the two additional GC params. * lastly we removed the duplicated methods from a trait in Behavior to make Lint tests pass (I think I posted that but I can't find it in the tracker right now). See attachement. Attachments: removeduplicatedmethodfromtrait.1.cs 154 bytes

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] News

by Marcus Denker

On Feb 4, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Geert Claes wrote: > > Nice, maybe we should rename the tab "Tous" to "All" :) I do not now how (it has no button for renaming like the others) -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Feb. 4, 2011

[Pharo-project] Metacello issue on Linux

by Igor Stasenko

Hello.. i trying to load VMMaker using metacello config on linux .. and it seems like a file system/plugins working differently there, so during package loading i got FileExists exception (for .mcz files which happen to be already in package-cache). The error triggered in MCCacheRepository(MCDirectoryRepository)>>writeStreamForFileNamed: aString replace: aBoolean do: aBlock i don't know why it can't use cached version (since file already exists, it should, yes?) Try issuing following in pharo-1.3 core image(http://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%20Core%201.3/) Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfCog'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfCog) project version: '1.2') load. on mac it works well. Update: It appears that the bug triggers only if you have wiped-clean package-cache dir , which is always true in my setup, because i do 'rm -rf build' before starting putting things there. Here the package-cache contents at the moment of error: ls package-cache/ ConfigurationOfCog-IgorStasenko.4.mcz ConfigurationOfMetacello-DaleHenrichs.554.mcz Metacello-Core-DaleHenrichs.455.mcz ConfigurationOfHelpSystem-DaleHenrichs.13.mcz Metacello-Base-DaleHenrichs.19.mcz Metacello-MC-DaleHenrichs.505.mcz i need help with it.. because it looks like a bad karma.. each time i think that my build setup is ready to roll, some shitty thing pops up and blocks me from finishing things i do. Before that i was using a script which were simply loaded a list of .mcz packages from corresponding locations. And everything just worked, except that i chosen to use metacello.. to not have problems to deal with need to load different packages for different forks, but now metacello blocks me. :( -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] News

by Geert Claes

Nice, maybe we should rename the tab "Tous" to "All" :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hudson-News-tp3260030p3260045.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] thinking about a community model of funding

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

2011/2/4 StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi guys > > I would like to see a model like that around the pharo virtual machine emerging > Â Â Â Â http://phk.freebsd.dk/VML/ > > stef > I was hung reading this page and look interesting (not only to Pharo) else a lot of other open projects we do with Pharo. Personally I never tried this type of collection of money, but my suspicion is that to work you need a critical mass of users, including businesses GermÃ¡n.

Feb. 4, 2011