December 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] setting Windows Application Title Bar

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 14 Dec 2011, at 18:12, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > +1 on the confusion, but I would want it to show the directory of the image > (because I use the same VM for all my images) :) Maybe it could be a > setting? Yes that could be useful, although I don't really need it, my images have different names (and I always use the same VM). It should definitively be a setting.

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better Gofer error messages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

also here :) https://gforge.inria.fr/scm/viewvc.php/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/Gofer/Gofer.pd… Stef On Dec 14, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> What it is now is unusable, sorry. To prepare a right script is a big >> pain. Specially because there are nowhere rules how packages are >> resolved by a name. It will help if in exception at least a link to the >> some wiki with rules would be shown. > > I assume you didn't even bother to check the class comment of Gofer, > because if you did you would have found a verbatim copy of the wiki > article. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch >

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Startup Preferences

by Sean P. DeNigris

Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote > > So it's really boring (and time consuming) to have to set my preferences > to have a nice environment to work with all the time. > I understand that and have the same problem, but solved it in the image with code and Metacello. Mariano has a blog post about it at http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/loading-projects-and-building-y…. In fact, the Metacello approach solves the next problem the script will run into, which is that each version of Pharo is a different incompatible platform, so there will have to be a different script for each 1.3, 1.4, 102.16; or create tags, or a script language, or... I am hesitant to add mechanisms outside the image because one of Smalltalk's compelling strengths is its consistency (we don't even have mathematical operator precedence, for ch*st sake :)) and this is one more thing to learn/understand/remember esp. for newbies. Also, maybe this is how Java's XML virus started ;-) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Startup-Preferences-tp4129591p4196010.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better Gofer error messages

by Lukas Renggli

> What it is now is unusable, sorry. To prepare a right script is a big > pain. Specially because there are nowhere rules how packages are > resolved by a name. It will help if in exception at least a link to the > some wiki with rules would be shown. I assume you didn't even bother to check the class comment of Gofer, because if you did you would have found a verbatim copy of the wiki article. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] setting Windows Application Title Bar

by Sean P. DeNigris

Ben Coman wrote > > These past few days I've had several images open at the same time to > compare the operation of different versions, and found I quickly lost > track of exactly which image was which. There is a lot of empty space > on application title bar after "Pharo 1.3" where I'd like to display the > directory where pharo.exe was started from. > +1 on the confusion, but I would want it to show the directory of the image (because I use the same VM for all my images) :) Maybe it could be a setting? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/setting-Windows-Application-Title-Bar-tp4195662p41959… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Better Gofer error messages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 14, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Hi guys, > > Please please, let someone improve Gofer error messages, which are now > totally non-understandable. Check in advance if some package is there > and say "No package with that name", or even better, "no package with > expected name: Blabla6.xxx" or something. can you point which messages are a problem > > What it is now is unusable, sorry. To prepare a right script is a big > pain. Specially because there are nowhere rules how packages are > resolved by a name. It will help if in exception at least a link to the > some wiki with rules would be shown. why don't you use metacello? there 45 pages documentation on it Stef > > Best regards > Janko > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 >

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Startup Preferences

by Benjamin

On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > Damien Cassou wrote >> >> This ~/.config directory is a freedesktop standard: "If >> ... >> But everyone seems to agree that ~/.pharo is better so I would not >> push ~/.config further. >> > > I have no preference for the extension, only the location. Since we're > making this up, why not use the most standard; although I thought the > objection is that there may be more than config info there? > > Now that I think about it. I do not understand the motivation for this file > in general. Will someone give a use case? The use case of shared scripts between images is that I ( and Stef, and probably other people) download maybe 3-4 images from Jenkins per day, because I have to work one the last version of Pharo (for compatibility by example). So it's really boring (and time consuming) to have to set my preferences to have a nice environment to work with all the time. I want to specify them once and for all, put them into a preferences folder, and then, each image is responsible to load preferences at launch time. I also think that other project could use such a folder but :) Ben > Why not just do whatever it is in > the start up list? > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Startup-Preferences-tp4129591p4195476.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Dec. 14, 2011

[Pharo-project] Better Gofer error messages

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi guys, Please please, let someone improve Gofer error messages, which are now totally non-understandable. Check in advance if some package is there and say "No package with that name", or even better, "no package with expected name: Blabla6.xxx" or something. What it is now is unusable, sorry. To prepare a right script is a big pain. Specially because there are nowhere rules how packages are resolved by a name. It will help if in exception at least a link to the some wiki with rules would be shown. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

Dec. 14, 2011

[Pharo-project] setting Windows Application Title Bar

by Ben Coman

These past few days I've had several images open at the same time to compare the operation of different versions, and found I quickly lost track of exactly which image was which. There is a lot of empty space on application title bar after "Pharo 1.3" where I'd like to display the directory where pharo.exe was started from. Can this be changed on the fly from the image? or a less attractive alternative... how do I query the pharo.exe location from the Workspace, and/or update some text on the background on startup. cheers, Ben

Dec. 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Web site - Hudson link

by Sean P. DeNigris

Ben Coman wrote > > Is the link from http://www.pharo-project.org/community to the Hudson > server wrong? > Yes, it was pointing to the old Hudson server before the switch to Jenkins. It's fixed now, thanks for the heads-up. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Web-site-Hudson-link-tp4195596p4195618.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 14, 2011