November 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Fernando Olivero

I NEVER had an image crash, of course i'm not stating that it cant crash, but would be nice to know how many people have to deal with image crashes and how often. Because, up to now, during my last 3 years of Pharo usage it never has been a big issue for me. Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller <oldmanlink(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think the troll said he was leaving, so let's just all take a deep breath, be thankful for that, and move on. > > Positive energy is what we need here, feeding trolls drains us more than one would think, so as far as possible we should just try and ignore them. > > Carlo's answer was cool, too ;-) > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com<mailto:siguctua@gmail.com>> wrote: > Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i > think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes > etc. > Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) > that the software i use is unstable, when > i using it every day and it works well for me? > > On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com<mailto:gstepken@googlemail.com>> wrote: >> Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite useless for anybody ... will do that! >> >> Guido Stepken >> >> Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr<mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>: >> >>> >>> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: >>> >>>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). >>>> >>>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. >>>> >>>> What are you doing? Don't know! >>> >>> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? >>> >>> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. >>> >>> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. >>> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) >>> >>> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. >>> >>> Â Â Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

I think the troll said he was leaving, so let's just all take a deep breath, be thankful for that, and move on. Positive energy is what we need here, feeding trolls drains us more than one would think, so as far as possible we should just try and ignore them. Carlo's answer was cool, too ;-) -- Cheers, Peter On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i > think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes > etc. > Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) > that the software i use is unstable, when > i using it every day and it works well for me? > > On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite > useless for anybody ... will do that! > > > > Guido Stepken > > > > Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > > >> > >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > >> > >>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to > do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point > theorem). > >>> > >>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent > state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. > >>> > >>> What are you doing? Don't know! > >> > >> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? > >> > >> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. > >> > >> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so > the best for all is that you just go away. > >> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) > >> > >> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and > everyone is happy. > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Igor Stasenko

Currently, my Mac running 3 images. And it is hard to tell, but i think one of them runs maybe more than month , without hangs, freezes etc. Now, why i should trust your words (not backed with anything serious) that the software i use is unstable, when i using it every day and it works well for me? On 15 November 2011 12:18, Guido Stepken <gstepken(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite useless for anybody ... will do that! > > Guido Stepken > > Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: >> >>> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). >>> >>> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. >>> >>> What are you doing? Don't know! >> >> So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? >> >> We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. >> >> I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. >> and everyone is happy. (you, too!) >> >> You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. >> >> Â Â Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] gsub like solution for Pharo/Smalltalk

by Fernando Olivero

Hi, this is an alternative script, i've added a couple of extra examples you might find useful. Evaluate them in a workspace. delimiter := $@. string := 'key1@value1@key2@value2'. substrings := string subStrings: {delimiter}. dictionary := Dictionary new. substrings groupsOf: 2 atATimeDo:[:each| dictionary at: each second put: each first ]. str := '' writeStream. dictionary storeOn: str. str contents. str := '' writeStream. dictionary keysAndValuesDo:[:key :value| str nextPutAll: value ; nextPut: delimiter ; nextPutAll: key ]. str contents Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:15 AM, mail list <mail.list(a)ficonab.com> wrote: > Nicolas, > Thanks. Â Verbose is fine. Â I will give your suggestion a try. > > I also commented on fernando's email below. > > S. > On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:26 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > >> It might seem a bit verbose, but your example translates as >> >> aDictionary associations inject: string into: [:subst :assoc | assoc >> key asRegex copy: subst replacingMatchesWith: assoc value]. >> >> Nicolas >> >> 2011/11/14 Fernando Olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch>: >>> I dont fully understand your question, also i have no idea what #gsub does. > gsub does a global search and replace in the string to replace any elements with the replacement text. > mystring:='hello there hello' > > eg myString.gsub('hello','goodbye') Â ===> 'goodbye there goodbye' > > S. >>> >>> do you start from a dictionary ? or a string ? it seems that you want >>> to create a dictionary from a particular string. >>> >>> Could you provide an example of such string, i could help you in >>> finding the correct messages of String/Stream to send. >>> >>> The #gsub message, seems pertinent to all Strings? or is a special >>> behavior for your special case? >>> >>> >>> Fernando >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 14 Nov 2011, at 08:25, mail list wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have Â a dictionary of keys and values. >>>>> >>>>> I have a text string in which the keys are marked with before and ending symbols. >>>>> >>>>> In ruby to replace the key with the value in the text string is reasonably simple. Â (eg Dictionary.each { key,value | string.gsub!(key,value) } Â - or similar to this. >>>>> >>>>> While I don't mind rolling my version of this in Smalltalk, just exploring the regex code and the streams code it is not obvious where is the easiest place to start. >>>>> >>>>> If someone would put their comments on where to start I will build the functionality and put it up on squeaksource since I think it is common requirement. >>>>> >>>>> S. >>>> >>>> There is String>>#format: but there are probably other options as well. >>>> >>>> Sven >>>> >>> >>> >> > >

Nov. 15, 2011

[Pharo-project] pharo-xmlrpc samples fail in Pharo 1.3

by seamus

Hi all Just wondering what to do next. I need a working xmlrpc library for a project I am working on but the latest version of pharo-xmlrpc fails due to a DoesNotUnderstand #contentString error. This is just testing the samples provided as below: | url proxy r | url := Url absoluteFromText: 'http://snipplr.com/xml-rpc.php'. proxy := XMLRPCProxy new url: url. r := proxy invokeMethod: 'languages.list' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key'). r := proxy invokeMethod: 'user.checkkey' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key'). r := proxy invokeMethod: 'snippet.list' withArgs: #('Your snipplr key' 'pharo'). "To get a snippet you don't need key, but the Snippet ID" r := proxy invokeMethod: 'snippet.get' withArgs: #('41365'). Any ideas to get this working? I see that someone mentioned that this may be a missing method in the Dictionary object. Regards Seamus -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharo-xmlrpc-samples-fail-in-Pharo-1-3-tp4042738p4042… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Guido Stepken

Ok, if it helps you to understand, that unstable software is quite useless for anybody ... will do that! Guido Stepken Am 15.11.2011 um 12:05 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > >> I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). >> >> Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. >> >> What are you doing? Don't know! > > So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? > > We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. > > I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. > and everyone is happy. (you, too!) > > You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Nov. 15, 2011

[Pharo-project] Guido we love you (was Re: Slow text input?)

by Carlo

Guido, I know Tuesday's suck so here's a super hug from me to you! It's ok. You're ok. We're ok. The world, is, ok! Turn the noise volume down and relax, move into your stable state v2.0 to v2.2 ... tell us which vm you're using, which image, and what steps caused your Pharo image/vm to crash. Remember we're here to support you, share the pain with us...ok maybe not Marcus but damn is that dude busy! Peace! and all things nice... On 15 Nov 2011, at 12:59 PM, Guido Stepken wrote: I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. What are you doing? Don't know! regards, Guido Stepken Am 15.11.2011 um 11:22 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > >> Hey, it's much simpler. I install, i look around what is new, has changed, and the Pharo dies. VM freezes, virtual machine crashes, whatever. >> >> So i simply uninstall and wait patiently for the next release. >> >> Ok? >> > > Yes. And please unsubsribe from this list while waiting. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Marcus Denker

On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). > > Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. > > What are you doing? Don't know! So why don't you then just unsubscribe from the mailinglist? We clearly are not up to your standards. And this will not change. I think there is no way that we can work constructively together, so the best for all is that you just go away. and everyone is happy. (you, too!) You can refactor according to Skolem, we refactor how we like it, and everyone is happy. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Guido Stepken

I think, programming, refactoring a peace of software has very much to do with model theory, LÃ¶wenheim-Skolem theory (related to fixed point theorem). Good programmers migrate code, addon's from one stable, consistent state to the other. These "stable states" are expressed in release numbers. What are you doing? Don't know! regards, Guido Stepken Am 15.11.2011 um 11:22 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > >> Hey, it's much simpler. I install, i look around what is new, has changed, and the Pharo dies. VM freezes, virtual machine crashes, whatever. >> >> So i simply uninstall and wait patiently for the next release. >> >> Ok? >> > > Yes. And please unsubsribe from this list while waiting. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Marcus Denker

On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > Nobody likes the man who brings bad news. Sophocles, Antigone, Greek tragic dramatist (496 BC - 406 BC) > No. The question is if you are constructive or destructive. I think the reasoning for you should be trivial: Pharo is not good enough for you. You don't intent to help fixing that, you just want to show off how great you are by showing the (imagined) faults in others. Please unsubscribe from the mailinglist. Marcus > Am 15.11.2011 um 11:35 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Max Leske wrote: >> >>> Guys, seriously! What's with all the negativity lately?? >> >> Guido Stepken is the reason. >> >> Marcus >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Nov. 15, 2011