November 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14226

by Marcus Denker

14226 ----- Issue 4993: Failing Test: ZnNeoClientTests http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4993 Issue 4971: adding author to compiledMethod and authors to class. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4971 -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 15 Nov 2011, at 14:03, Sean Allen wrote: > Ya everything is indeed fine on another Mac ( older model ) running 10.6.8 > > I copied over a 1.2.1 one click that I had been messing around with a few months back and its very usable. That is indeed very annoying, Sean. Now you have to find out what is wrong with your main Mac. Is there anything else that works slower than usual ? Can you remember anything that you did that might have had this effect ? Any strange background things running ? I hope you can find the cause. Sven

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] changing a method on an image file without loading the image

by Javier PimÃ¡s

Thanks all. I finally could recover almost everything from the .changes file. Anyway, the idea of changing a bit the vm could work, and also debugging with GDB may make it possible to solve the problem. I'll keep these possibilities for the next time. Thanks, Javier. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > melkyades wrote: > > > > But it won't load > > You might be able to debug from the VM side. See > > http://forum.world.st/Fwd-Oops-I-put-a-halt-in-a-startup-method-td3800729.h… > > HTH, > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/changing-a-method-on-an-image-file-without-loading-th… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Lic. Javier PimÃ¡s Ciudad de Buenos Aires

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Marcus Denker

> > But, well, what I did is certainly uncommon usage scenario. > People usually do not change #basicNew/#basicNew: or the Parser/Compiler/Encoder classes. > > Yes, and we will make changing things deep in the system easier in the future (so people can change the compiler or debug the debugger without shooting themselves in the foot constantly). Marcus -- Marcus DenkerÂ --Â denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] changing a method on an image file without loading the image

by Sean P. DeNigris

melkyades wrote: > > But it won't load You might be able to debug from the VM side. See http://forum.world.st/Fwd-Oops-I-put-a-halt-in-a-startup-method-td3800729.h… HTH, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/changing-a-method-on-an-image-file-without-loading-th… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Stefan Marr

On 15 Nov 2011, at 13:48, Fernando Olivero wrote: > I NEVER had an image crash, of course i'm not stating that it cant > crash, but would be nice to know how many people have to deal with > image crashes and how often. In the course of one week: $ grep STARTUP MyImage.35.changes | grep MyImage | wc -l 45 What does that mean? I started the image 45 times. And, no, I did not frequently save and quit the image, I just made it crash/unusable one way or another. How to deal with it? $ grep SNAPSHOT MyImage.35.changes | grep MyImage | wc -l 145 But, well, what I did is certainly uncommon usage scenario. People usually do not change #basicNew/#basicNew: or the Parser/Compiler/Encoder classes. So much for numbers Stefan -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean Allen

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 15.11.2011 um 04:39 schrieb Sean Allen: > > >> >> > This is new. This wasn't happening before. This is happening with images >> > that were fine the last time I opened them in the spring. >> > Something is messed up on my machine. Hoping someone else has gone >> through >> > this and fixed it. >> > >> > >> >> Can you provide more details? What is VM version you using, what is OS >> version etc. >> >> > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > and both have the issue. > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying > installing a new one to see if that helps. > > Sean, > > do you have another machine handy? In this cases it might be a good idea > to make a quick check with the same image on another machine. > > Norbert > Ya everything is indeed fine on another Mac ( older model ) running 10.6.8 I copied over a 1.2.1 one click that I had been messing around with a few months back and its very usable.

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] changing a method on an image file without loading the image

by Fernando Olivero

I have never done that, but what i usually do is to load the .changes file, and recover the lost changes (or the everything ) from there. Fernando On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Javier PimÃ¡s <elpochodelagente(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, my image got broken and I think I know (thanks to the dump) what I should change. But it won't load so I need to modify the image file from the outside world. Is there any way? > > Cheers, > Javier. > > -- > Lic. Javier PimÃ¡s > Ciudad de Buenos Aires >

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean T Allen

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 15.11.2011 um 04:39 schrieb Sean Allen: > > > > > > > > > > This is new. This wasn't happening before. This is happening with images > > > > that were fine the last time I opened them in the spring. > > > > Something is messed up on my machine. Hoping someone else has gone through > > > > this and fixed it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you provide more details? What is VM version you using, what is OS > > > version etc. > > > > > > > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > > > and both have the issue. > > > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying installing a new one to see if that helps. > > > Sean, > > do you have another machine handy? In this cases it might be a good idea to make a quick check with the same image on another machine. > > Norbert I do have another Mac I could try one of the images on. I'm pretty sure it would work on another and this is an issue on my machine. -Sean-

Nov. 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow text input?

by Sean T Allen

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Sean, > > On 15 Nov 2011, at 04:39, Sean Allen wrote: > > > Mac OS X 10.6.8 > > > > I deleted the vm I had. Tried various one clicks. > > > > 1.2.1 & latest 1.3 ( downloaded an hour ago ) > > > > and both have the issue. > > > > I deleted the vm I had for non one click images and am going to trying installing a new one to see if that helps. > > This is _definitively_ not normal, many Pharo developers are on Mac, using it all day long, this would unbearable for any of us. > > This must be a local problem. Do you have a chance to try this on some other mac so that you have a reference for yourself ? I used pharo for every day development for 2 years so ya, I know this isn't normal. Unfortunately, I'm left with the situation where something is causing this but I have no idea what and it crosses image versions. If no one else has ever had the same local problem, I have a long road to figure this out most likely. Sean hoping someone has experienced this before and knows a solution.

Nov. 15, 2011