October 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease stable does not load in Pharo 1.3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I can have a look later. Stef > Hi, > > Try this in the latest Pharo 1.3 13315: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfGrease'; > load. > (ConfigurationOfGrease project version: #stable) load > > > It won't work because ParseTreeEnvironment got renamed into RBParseTreeEnvironment. > > Any takes for updating the configuration? > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Oct. 17, 2011

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfGrease stable does not load in Pharo 1.3

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Try this in the latest Pharo 1.3 13315: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGrease'; load. (ConfigurationOfGrease project version: #stable) load It won't work because ParseTreeEnvironment got renamed into RBParseTreeEnvironment. Any takes for updating the configuration? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by Marcus Denker

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > can you check > > https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.3/ > Because it should contain the latest shout and rb for 1.3 Looks good... (after a quick look). The only problem is that it has one undeclared so we have one failing test. https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.3/lastCompletedBuild/t… Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] IS Smalltalk Source also an object?

by Marcus Denker

On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Guido Stepken wrote: > Hi, there! > > I had a nice conversation about Smalltalk among software architects: > > I claim smalltalk to be the only programming system, where source is an object too, with all advantages and disadvantages! > > Am i right? > No, source is ascii text in Smalltak, and it's on the disk even. The only thing that is objects are classes and methods. Below of a full method, the reflective model stops. (you can ask the compiler to make an AST from the dead code on disk, but that model is not causally connected and thus not reflective, and it's only there when you create it. This you can do in any language, though). Of course it is interesting what happes when one fixes that... "Sub-Method Reflection": http://www.jot.fm/issues/issue_2007_10/paper14.pdf Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Oct. 17, 2011

[Pharo-project] IS Smalltalk Source also an object?

by Guido Stepken

Hi, there! I had a nice conversation about Smalltalk among software architects: I claim smalltalk to be the only programming system, where source is an object too, with all advantages and disadvantages! Am i right? What consequences follow out of that? regards, Guido Stepken

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

can you check https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/job/Pharo%201.3/ Because it should contain the latest shout and rb for 1.3 Stef On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Actually, I got the same behavior also by trying with the version from the PharoRB repository. The issue comes from some classes being moved from Refactoring-Tests-Core to AST-Tests-Core. Because of this you get a warning. Of course, if you proceed, everything loads, but there are some Obsolete classes still around and OB is broken. > > I guess this will be a non-issue once the new Pharo 1.3 is available. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 17 Oct 2011, at 09:20, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> The issue seems to be with the ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser from MetacelloRepository. I just took a Pharo 1.3 image and then: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; >> load. >> (ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser project version: #stable) load >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 16 Oct 2011, at 22:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> People should tell me what is not working because do me it is working. I spent time merging your changes and >>> updating the configurationOfRefactoringBrowser. >>> >>>> There is kind of a mess for 1.3: >>>> >>>> There are various ambiguous versions of OB, Shout and eCompletion >>>> floating around that break some parts of the system, because of the >>>> text editor changes. >>>> >>>> Also there are also various versions of RB that do not work in 1.3, >>>> because of the changes in 1.4. >>> >>> My version does not load the change in 1.4. >>> >>>> I've been building 1.3 images for a while, so you "just" have to take >>>> the same versions to get a working image. >>> >>> >>>> This seems to be the case for AST and Refactoring that were posted above. >>> >>> ??? >>> >>> For me I want a configurationOfXXX working. the one I did is working >>> or people should tell me why it is not. >>> >>> >>> Stef >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Live like you mean it." >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, > you will end up with a messy haircut." > >

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Actually, I got the same behavior also by trying with the version from the PharoRB repository. which behavior? > The issue comes from some classes being moved from Refactoring-Tests-Core to AST-Tests-Core. Because of this you get a warning. Of course, if you proceed, everything loads, but there are some Obsolete classes still around and OB is broken. Strange I do not get the warning > > I guess this will be a non-issue once the new Pharo 1.3 is available. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 17 Oct 2011, at 09:20, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> The issue seems to be with the ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser from MetacelloRepository. I just took a Pharo 1.3 image and then: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; >> load. >> (ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser project version: #stable) load >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 16 Oct 2011, at 22:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> People should tell me what is not working because do me it is working. I spent time merging your changes and >>> updating the configurationOfRefactoringBrowser. >>> >>>> There is kind of a mess for 1.3: >>>> >>>> There are various ambiguous versions of OB, Shout and eCompletion >>>> floating around that break some parts of the system, because of the >>>> text editor changes. >>>> >>>> Also there are also various versions of RB that do not work in 1.3, >>>> because of the changes in 1.4. >>> >>> My version does not load the change in 1.4. >>> >>>> I've been building 1.3 images for a while, so you "just" have to take >>>> the same versions to get a working image. >>> >>> >>>> This seems to be the case for AST and Refactoring that were posted above. >>> >>> ??? >>> >>> For me I want a configurationOfXXX working. the one I did is working >>> or people should tell me why it is not. >>> >>> >>> Stef >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Live like you mean it." >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, > you will end up with a messy haircut." > >

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 17, 2011, at 9:20 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Stef, > > The issue seems to be with the ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser from MetacelloRepository. I just took a Pharo 1.3 image and then: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; > load. > (ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser project version: #stable) load then what? Stef > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 22:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> People should tell me what is not working because do me it is working. I spent time merging your changes and >> updating the configurationOfRefactoringBrowser. >> >>> There is kind of a mess for 1.3: >>> >>> There are various ambiguous versions of OB, Shout and eCompletion >>> floating around that break some parts of the system, because of the >>> text editor changes. >>> >>> Also there are also various versions of RB that do not work in 1.3, >>> because of the changes in 1.4. >> >> My version does not load the change in 1.4. >> >>> I've been building 1.3 images for a while, so you "just" have to take >>> the same versions to get a working image. >> >> >>> This seems to be the case for AST and Refactoring that were posted above. >> >> ??? >> >> For me I want a configurationOfXXX working. the one I did is working >> or people should tell me why it is not. >> >> >> Stef > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Live like you mean it." > >

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by Tudor Girba

Actually, I got the same behavior also by trying with the version from the PharoRB repository. The issue comes from some classes being moved from Refactoring-Tests-Core to AST-Tests-Core. Because of this you get a warning. Of course, if you proceed, everything loads, but there are some Obsolete classes still around and OB is broken. I guess this will be a non-issue once the new Pharo 1.3 is available. Cheers, Doru On 17 Oct 2011, at 09:20, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Stef, > > The issue seems to be with the ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser from MetacelloRepository. I just took a Pharo 1.3 image and then: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; > load. > (ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser project version: #stable) load > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 22:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> People should tell me what is not working because do me it is working. I spent time merging your changes and >> updating the configurationOfRefactoringBrowser. >> >>> There is kind of a mess for 1.3: >>> >>> There are various ambiguous versions of OB, Shout and eCompletion >>> floating around that break some parts of the system, because of the >>> text editor changes. >>> >>> Also there are also various versions of RB that do not work in 1.3, >>> because of the changes in 1.4. >> >> My version does not load the change in 1.4. >> >>> I've been building 1.3 images for a while, so you "just" have to take >>> the same versions to get a working image. >> >> >>> This seems to be the case for AST and Refactoring that were posted above. >> >> ??? >> >> For me I want a configurationOfXXX working. the one I did is working >> or people should tell me why it is not. >> >> >> Stef > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Live like you mean it." > -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

Oct. 17, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Can this be improved in Glamourous?

by Tudor Girba

Hi Stef, The issue seems to be with the ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser from MetacelloRepository. I just took a Pharo 1.3 image and then: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; load. (ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser project version: #stable) load Cheers, Doru On 16 Oct 2011, at 22:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > People should tell me what is not working because do me it is working. I spent time merging your changes and > updating the configurationOfRefactoringBrowser. > >> There is kind of a mess for 1.3: >> >> There are various ambiguous versions of OB, Shout and eCompletion >> floating around that break some parts of the system, because of the >> text editor changes. >> >> Also there are also various versions of RB that do not work in 1.3, >> because of the changes in 1.4. > > My version does not load the change in 1.4. > >> I've been building 1.3 images for a while, so you "just" have to take >> the same versions to get a working image. > > >> This seems to be the case for AST and Refactoring that were posted above. > > ??? > > For me I want a configurationOfXXX working. the one I did is working > or people should tell me why it is not. > > > Stef -- www.tudorgirba.com "Live like you mean it."

Oct. 17, 2011