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Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :)

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I can't take credit for thinking of the bridge, I was simply acknowledging it and the breadth of its audience as part of my shameless attempt to direct effort toward another feature that would get a lot of use :) Bill ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Sean P. DeNigris [sean(a)clipperadams.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:22 PM To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :) Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > The object-c bridge is probably a big deal to the Mac users among us, > right? Yes! Thank you for the reminder, I'd temporarily given up and forgotten about this. A stable, well-documented ObjC bridge would be /huge/. My inability to effectively use it was one of the key drivers in my delving into debugging the VM. Like FFI, I think documentation will be extremely important here. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Brainstorming-on-the-roadmap-for-first-Pharo-Consorti… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :)

by Sean P. DeNigris

Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > The object-c bridge is probably a big deal to the Mac users among us, > right? Yes! Thank you for the reminder, I'd temporarily given up and forgotten about this. A stable, well-documented ObjC bridge would be /huge/. My inability to effectively use it was one of the key drivers in my delving into debugging the VM. Like FFI, I think documentation will be extremely important here. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Brainstorming-on-the-roadmap-for-first-Pharo-Consorti… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :)

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

The object-c bridge is probably a big deal to the Mac users among us, right? My understand is that there are quite a few of you?? I've thought about it myself, but that's another story. For external interfacing, I would very much like to see callbacks widely supported; I'm thinking of solvers/minimizers etc., where one needs to tell the library how to evaluate a function. FFI has been pretty good to me, and Andreas described something that might be turned into a reusable callback mechanism for it. Alien and NativeBoost are also options. It would be nice if we had one external interface system that does it all. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Noury Bouraqadi [bouraqadi(a)gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:17 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Cc: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :) What about adding to this todo list: -Fixing/finishing the Objective-C bridge :-) During ESUG 2010 Esteban told me that there was a pb with the Mac VM that causes the crash. I believe this wasn't fixed and this is the biggest issue with the MARS project. Noury On 31 oct. 2011, at 11:54, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > we have a roadmap for Esteban and we would like to share it with you. We have extra items that we would like to see fixed and we are welcoming your > feedback/suggestions. Note this is typically the way we want to work with the consortium in the future: > Build an initial roadmap and refine it based on the input of the community. > > - A website for the consortium registration (esteban is expert on that). > - This is important for INRIA and for the visibility of the consortium. We should get new members :) > - Integration with SmalltalkHub > > - Working on fixing bugs! > - Debugger fixes > - Continuous bug fixing. > > - Improving release process: faster, more people involved, simpler. > - Working on metacello repositories for each distributions (everything is there but missing last bits) > - Metacello tools > - Automatic release validations > - Automatic validation of fixes > > Now the free items with probably igor involvement > - Multiwindowing support > - Fully working multithreaded FFI with ***Documentation*** > - Filesystem fix and integration > - Integration of OPAL > - RPackage integration > > Igor related > - Ephemerons > - Object format > - VM branding > - Use of new canvas > - Event cleaning > > So we are waiting for your suggestions. > > > Stef > > > > Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Website RSS feed broken?

by Max Leske

Thanks Marcus. On 31.10.2011, at 11:39, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Max Leske wrote: > >> Concerning the changing GUIDs: We could only reproduce this when a new item is not added "normally", e.g. when an older article was cut and then used as template. It would therefore be really helpful if the person who published the TextLint news entry could tell me exactly what steps he performed when creating the entry. >> > > I go to the news page, edit. Than I add a "Discussion" from the menu, add a text below, fill it in. Than I put the meta tag > "All", save. > (Then I had to move the whole article up because is was added below the current one, no above). > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] How to port this code to 1.3

by Sean P. DeNigris

Marcus Denker-4 wrote: > > It is supposed to be removed. There is even a tracker entry: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1817 > Thanks, that issue addresses everything I mentioned. I'll wait until the dust settles before porting this snippet. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-port-this-code-to-1-3-tp3954648p3956358.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens news :)

by Alexandre Bergel

Sounds like a good plan! Alexandre On 31 Oct 2011, at 13:21, Igor Stasenko wrote: > The text rendering is most complex part. And it going very slow, > slower than i thought. > Apart from text, there's a lot things to think about. > But what i want to do right now is to implement enough functionality > to fully render morphic desktop in pharo. > And then we can discuss what else we need as well as what we dont need :) > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens news :)

by Igor Stasenko

The text rendering is most complex part. And it going very slow, slower than i thought. Apart from text, there's a lot things to think about. But what i want to do right now is to implement enough functionality to fully render morphic desktop in pharo. And then we can discuss what else we need as well as what we dont need :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Brainstorming on the roadmap for first Pharo Consortium Engineer :)

by Noury Bouraqadi

What about adding to this todo list: -Fixing/finishing the Objective-C bridge :-) During ESUG 2010 Esteban told me that there was a pb with the Mac VM that causes the crash. I believe this wasn't fixed and this is the biggest issue with the MARS project. Noury On 31 oct. 2011, at 11:54, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > we have a roadmap for Esteban and we would like to share it with you. We have extra items that we would like to see fixed and we are welcoming your > feedback/suggestions. Note this is typically the way we want to work with the consortium in the future: > Build an initial roadmap and refine it based on the input of the community. > > - A website for the consortium registration (esteban is expert on that). > - This is important for INRIA and for the visibility of the consortium. We should get new members :) > - Integration with SmalltalkHub > > - Working on fixing bugs! > - Debugger fixes > - Continuous bug fixing. > > - Improving release process: faster, more people involved, simpler. > - Working on metacello repositories for each distributions (everything is there but missing last bits) > - Metacello tools > - Automatic release validations > - Automatic validation of fixes > > Now the free items with probably igor involvement > - Multiwindowing support > - Fully working multithreaded FFI with ***Documentation*** > - Filesystem fix and integration > - Integration of OPAL > - RPackage integration > > Igor related > - Ephemerons > - Object format > - VM branding > - Use of new canvas > - Event cleaning > > So we are waiting for your suggestions. > > > Stef > > > > Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Consortium news

by Noury Bouraqadi

Esteban, Welcome to the North of France :-) Noury -- http://twitter.com/#!/NouryBouraqadi On 31 oct. 2011, at 11:10, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > SInce INRIA accepted to pay one engineer around the pharo consortium we will hire esteban lorenzano for a year. > We are excited by that! I should do a lot of paper work but this is really cool. > > For the consortium > - inria law oriented people are designing a "CAML" like consortium text > - Marcus is setting up mailing-list and we will make public the names of the companies that are participating. > - We will discuss the prices and modality. > > Stef > >

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Athens news :)

by Tudor Girba

Great. I can't wait to play with it :) Doru On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > I asked igor to do a pre pre pre pre release of athens and then perform > regular ones so that you can follow what he is doing > and get excited. Because this is getting along and will open a lot of > perspective. > > The idea is that igor is working since september on Athens: a new canvas > and a smalltalk backend to support it. > The challenge are: > - how can we get a zoomable vector graphics system? with for > examples back end in Cairo/opengl. > - what are the good abstractions to support that? > > Igor is then working on a "simple" text model and canvas so that we can > emit instructions for vector graphics > back-ends. > > Stef > > > -- -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 31, 2011