January 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3262 in pharo: Debugger enhancement to open in a background process when the UI process is busy

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Summary: Debugger enhancement to open in a background process when the UI process is busy Comment #2 on issue 3262 by stephane.ducasse: Debugger enhancement to open in a background process when the UI process is busy http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3262 Tried to rescue some of Eliot Miranda improvement for the debugger. Strangely enough the functions introduced by eliot got removed and not invoked in latter versions. Now invoking the debugger crash the system probably because there is an problem with the semaphore or other. I just save this to avoid to redo everything. Attachments: Debugger.1.cs 4.4 KB

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Telnet client

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Aidan, I have no idea, but I cc'ed pharo-dev mailing list just in case someone can help mariano On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Aidan Gauland <aidalgol(a)no8wireless.co.nz>wrote: > Hi, > > I want to create a MUD <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD> client (a > client for games played over Telnet) with Pharo, but I'm stuck on how > best to use Pharo as a Telnet client. I've heard of the cURL plugin, > but I'm not sure if that can be (easily) used for anything other than > file transfers. Even if I built and installed it, I'm not confident > I'd be able to tell for certain whether I can use it in the way I > want. I also found this > <http://map.squeak.org/package/14bcecc6-dbb8-4866-bb0c-25278ca882ba>, > but that's about eight years old and its homepage link is dead, so it > doesn't look too promising. I found TelnetProtocolClient in the Pharo > image, but that does not seem to be at all what I need. > > Can someone with experience with telnetting from within Pharo/Squeak > point me in the right direction? > > Thanks, > Aidan > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk0hlP4ACgkQjyzTRvYJmaV/3QCePcuRL3E1EX1OYjT6nVGSjnyl > VoQAoIF507GVLtaWENeKTOYbhSWGqrmh > =JWyt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3414 in pharo: CompilerEvaluationTest>>#testEvaluationOfSelfSend fails

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Closed Comment #9 on issue 3414 by stephane.ducasse: CompilerEvaluationTest>>#testEvaluationOfSelfSend fails http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3414 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3504 in pharo: MethodContext>>numArgs

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Fixed Comment #2 on issue 3504 by stephane.ducasse: MethodContext>>numArgs http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3504 Got a crash when trying to integrate another fix... so should redo it

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3499 in pharo: FixUnderscores (package & instructions) out of date

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #3 on issue 3499 by stephane.ducasse: FixUnderscores (package & instructions) out of date http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3499 ok so we can close it for 1.2 and we just have to update the description on the webpage?

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Crash on saving with Monticello

by Alexandre Bergel

> Alexandre, so you changed from: > > primMakeUUID > <primitive: 'primitiveMakeUUID' module: 'UUIDPlugin'> > UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4 > > to: > > primMakeUUID > UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4. > > ? Yes. I was able to save and load from Monticello. > What about changing to: > > primMakeUUID > self isOSSafeForUUID > ifTrue: [ ^ self internalPrimitiveMakeUUID ] > ifFalse: [^ UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4]. > > > isOSSafeForUUID > "it would be great being able to check wether the OS is 64 bits or not, but I don't know how to ask that from the image" > ^ Smalltalk os isUnix not > > internalPrimitiveMakeUUID > <primitive: 'primitiveMakeUUID' module: 'UUIDPlugin'> I haven't found myself very close to the UUID problem and I do not have a global picture of the problem. If other agree, then I am ok. Alexandre > Then....when this is really fixed, we remove all this crap. > Of you agree, I open a ticket. > > Cheers > > mariano > > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 28 Dec 2010, at 10:09, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Several of my students experience a crash of Pharo when saving with Monticello. They all use linux. I can ask for more detailed description. > > Are we the only one to experience this? > > > > > > yes, probably the UUID known problem. Just renaming / removing the plugin may work. > > Are they in Ubuntu/debian? > > > > Please let us know if we should do this for the PharoOneClick image. > > > > cheers > > > > mariano > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Crash on saving with Monticello

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Hi! > > Sorry for the late answer. The student is now in my office and there is > indeed a problem. > UUIDPlugin is not present on his harddisk. Maybe built in the VM. > > I found the class UUID and remove the call to the primitive. It works. > Strange problem. Shall I report it in codegoogle? > yes, please. We need to aboid this somehow Alexandre, so you changed from: primMakeUUID <primitive: 'primitiveMakeUUID' module: 'UUIDPlugin'> UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4 to: primMakeUUID UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4. ? What about changing to: primMakeUUID self isOSSafeForUUID ifTrue: [ ^ self internalPrimitiveMakeUUID ] ifFalse: [^ UUIDGenerator default generateBytes: self forVersion: 4]. isOSSafeForUUID "it would be great being able to check wether the OS is 64 bits or not, but I don't know how to ask that from the image" ^ Smalltalk os isUnix not internalPrimitiveMakeUUID <primitive: 'primitiveMakeUUID' module: 'UUIDPlugin'> Then....when this is really fixed, we remove all this crap. Of you agree, I open a ticket. Cheers mariano > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 28 Dec 2010, at 10:09, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Several of my students experience a crash of Pharo when saving with > Monticello. They all use linux. I can ask for more detailed description. > > Are we the only one to experience this? > > > > > > yes, probably the UUID known problem. Just renaming / removing the plugin > may work. > > Are they in Ubuntu/debian? > > > > Please let us know if we should do this for the PharoOneClick image. > > > > cheers > > > > mariano > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > >

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3499 in pharo: FixUnderscores (package & instructions) out of date

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #2 on issue 3499 by sean.p.denigris: FixUnderscores (package & instructions) out of date http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3499 "I do not understand why you want to integrate 18 in the trunk since in 1.2 there is 20." Just a mistake. I meant "update to the latest version", and thought 18 was it.

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] IRC meeting next Tuesday, January 4, at ...?

by Adrian Lienhard

I just figured that I also can't make it tomorrow at 20:00 (I can be online 2 hours later, though). Anyway, I suggest that everybody who is interested to discuss and sync meets at 20:00 and it would be nice if somebody could write a short summary, which we can post to the mailing list and the website. BTW, the channel is #pharo-project on irc.freenode.net. If you don't have an IRC client you can browse to http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=pharo-project Time: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=4&month=1&year=2… Cheers, Adrian On Jan 3, 2011, at 09:15 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks for the call adrian. I will be travelling until 16h (it was not planned when I proposed that dat) but there is no problem, > Stef > On Jan 2, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> During the last meeting [1] we decided to do the next one on January 4 but we didn't decide when to start. >> >> The previous meeting started at 20:00 CET/UTC/GMT+1, which may not be optimal for people in other time zones. If somebody likes to suggest another time, please let us know soon! >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> [1] http://pharo-project.org/news?article=irc-meeting-notes > >

Jan. 3, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Crash on saving with Monticello

by David T. Lewis

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:14:47PM +0100, Philippe Marschall wrote: > On 03.01.2011 16:42, David T. Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:57:07PM +0100, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> On 01/03/2011 03:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> Sorry for the late answer. The student is now in my office and there is indeed a problem. > >>> UUIDPlugin is not present on his harddisk. Maybe built in the VM. > >>> > >>> I found the class UUID and remove the call to the primitive. It works. Strange problem. Shall I report it in codegoogle? > >> > >> Has been known for two years, shouldn't happen, nobody cares. > >> > > > > Huh ?!?!? What do you mean "nobody cares"? > > Nodby cares enough to get to the bottom of it and fix it once and for > all. And yes, that includes me. It's just an observation. So if this is > really critical for somebody then he'll have to fix it himself. > Reporting the same bug again won't make a difference. That's just how > open source is. > > Cheers > Philippe > Yep :) But I do want to make it clear that it seems the bug is not in the plugin, it is in the libuuid implementations. We've all been trying to find workarounds, but unfortunately not with much success. For a while we could work around it by compiling the plugin internally (which somehow prevents the bug from being exposed), but now we have some 64-bit Linux distros that accidentally left the 32-bit libuuid out of the distro, which prevents the VM from running if the plugin was compiled internally. I'm sure it has been fixed in up to date distros, but now we have one set of Linux users with buggy libuuid libraries, and another set of Linux users with missing 32-bit libuuid libraries, so somebody is going to get screwed either way now :-/ I'm sure there must be some way to fix this that we're all missing, so if anyone wants to look at it with a fresh set of eyes that would be great. Dave

Jan. 3, 2011