January 2011 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] editing a method outside the image?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:27 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > sergio > > may be you should explain us what you are trying to do? > > he screw up his image hhahahaha don't try to rescue it... anyway, if you are lucky and DateAndTime >> now is not used at startup, then you can call the VM like this: ./squeak myScrewedUpImage.image fixToNow.st And you in the fixToNow.st you put something like: DateAndTime compile: 'now ^ self basicNew ticks: (Array with: SqueakEpoch with: Time totalSeconds with: 0) offset: self localTimeZone offset ' but....maybe the method is used while startup...in such case you are dead i think cheers mariano > On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:07 PM, sergio_101 wrote: > > > one problem i having (in a long line).. > > > > is that my DateAndTime class >> now > > > > looks like this: > > > > now > > ^ self basicNew > > ticks: (Duration > > days: SqueakEpoch > > hours: 0 > > minutes: 0 > > seconds: self totalSeconds > > nanoSeconds: MillisecondClockOffset > milliSeconds * NanosInMillisecond) ticks > > offset: self localOffset; > > yourself > > > > the problem is, milliseconds is not defined anywhere.. this is there > > as a remnant of sheduler.. > > > > i need to replace it with the REAL one: > > > > now > > ^ self basicNew > > ticks: (Array with: SqueakEpoch with: Time totalSeconds > with: 0) > > offset: self localTimeZone offset > > > > the problem is that when i try to update "now", i keep getting the > > error for that it can't find "milliSeconds".. > > > > when i delete "now" and try to paste the correct one in.. i error out, > too.. > > > > i think the snake is eating its tail.. > > > > can i replace the "now" method somehow with the image not running? > > > > thanks! > > > > -- > > ---- > > peace, > > sergio > > photographer, journalist, visionary > > > > http://www.CodingForHire.com > > http://www.coffee-black.com > > http://www.painlessfrugality.com > > http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 > > http://www.facebook.com/sergio101 > > > > >

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and CommandShell on OSX ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Stef T <stef(a)ummon.com> wrote: > > Hello Mariano, David, Everyone, > > I am currently using; > > Pharo-1.1-11406-rc3 > Latest update: #11406 > > But I have tried with; > > Pharo1.1.1 > Latest update: #11414 > > Hi Stef. That's the version of the Image, but not the VM. Are you using a PharoOneClick? (Pharo.app) I mean..do you have all together where you do a double click ? or you have the VM first, you double clcik and then you choose the image? if this one, then you can have the name of such vm, like Squeak 4.2.5beta1U for example cheers mariano > I installed the VMMaker (as well as the configuration step), then I also > reinstalled OSProcessPlugin/CommandShell via Monticello. No dice, same > NonBooleanReceiver. > > Name: VMConstruction-Plugins-OSProcessPlugin-dtl.27 > Author: dtl > Time: 3 January 2011, 9:23:04.998 pm > > Regards > S. > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Stef, welcome! > > it will help if you say wich VM are you using. > > cheers > > mariano > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 6:43 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com>wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:06:37PM -0800, Stef T wrote: >> > >> > On Jan 3, 2011, at 7:25 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:55:45PM -0800, Stef T wrote: >> > >> 1) CommandShell complains about AioPlugin not being present and >> that it will use the 'old slow' way. That's fine, it's merely a warning >> > > >> > > AFAIK, noone has tried building the AioPlugin for Mac, so you will get >> this >> > > warning when running on a Mac. But as you say, it's just a warning. >> > >> > Is there a pointer for the source code ? I am pretty handy with Xcode >> and don't mind giving it a whirl ;) >> > >> >> AioPlugin is on SqueakSource in http://www.squeaksource.com/AioPlugin. >> It's written in Smalltalk, translated to C. I don't have any experience >> with Mac or Xcode but there are others on the Pharo/Squeak/vm-dev lists >> who can probably help. >> >> > > >> > >> but >> > >> 2) None of the commands get executed. If I try the stuff which will >> eval inside squeak/pharo, then that's fine (Eg; stdout nextPutAll: 'hello >> world'; cr.). However, if I try a command such as 'ls' or 'who', all hell >> breaks lose. stack trace follows :) >> > >> >> > >> If I am doing anything obviously wrong, please feel free to hit me >> over the head :) >> > > >> > > Nope, it's not you, it's the plugin included with your VM. Some >> > > of the Mac VMs in circulation were accidentally built with a very >> > > out of date version of the OSProcessPlugin. Apparently you have >> > > one of them, and it will definitely not work. But I think there >> > > is a newer version (4.2.5 IIRC) that has the up to date plugin >> > > that works properly on Mac. >> > > >> > >> > Hrm, I am using the OSProcess from squeaksource .59. The version history >> says >> > >> > Name: OSProcess-dtl.59 >> > Author: dtl >> > Time: 28 November 2010, 8:43:48.839 pm >> > UUID: bd5d2b4e-efbd-4091-ac0a-d0bd7af64b2c >> > >> > surely this is 'new enough' ? Is there a known 'stable' version you >> would suggest ? >> > >> > regards >> > S. >> >> I was referring to the OSProcessPlugin, which separate from >> the OSProcess package. The plugin is on SqueakSource at: >> http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcessPlugin >> >> This is written in Smalltalk, translated to C and compiled >> as a VM plugin. It was originally part of of OSProcess, but >> I split it out to a separate package years ago. You have an >> up to date OSProcess package, but your OSProcessPlugin is >> many years old, from back before we got it working on Mac. >> The old plugin will crash your VM. >> >> Dave >> >> >> > >

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and CommandShell on OSX ?

by David T. Lewis

On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 4 January 2011 17:34, St??phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 4:25 AM, David T. Lewis wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:55:45PM -0800, Stef T wrote: > >>> Hello Everyone, > >>> ?? So, long time squeaker, first time pharo(er ?). Please don't hold this against me ;) > >>> > >>> ?? I am trying to get CommandShell loaded into Pharo (using the Seaside Image) via Monticello. I have tried this on Pharo 1.1/1.1.1/1.2 for the record (same thing). I skip past the MVC/Morphic errors about PluggableList etc, and I can get the command shell to pop-up, however, two things happen; > >>> > >> > >> The CommandShell package on SqueakSource is also now broken down > >> into sub-packages, so you can load the individual parts if you want. > >> But just proceding through the MVC warnings as you did is harmless. > >> > >>> ?? 1) CommandShell complains about AioPlugin not being present and that it will use the 'old slow' way. That's fine, it's merely a warning > >> > >> AFAIK, noone has tried building the AioPlugin for Mac, so you will get this > >> warning when running on a Mac. But as you say, it's just a warning. > > > > I imagine that we will see that with igor and the automatic build too. > > > > was this plugin included into standard vms once before? because > currently its not > and i don't remember if i built VMs it . > It has never been included in any Mac VMs, and I do not know if it works on Mac. But I expect that it will work because the Mac VM uses a copy of Ian's aio support code for the unix VM. Dave

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some questions about omnibroser framework

by aizcorbe

Thanks Alexandre, I readed the documentation about omnibrowser found in pharo site, seems to be based on this paper. I'll take a look on this. Cheers Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > A bit outdated, but it may be useful... > > http://www.bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg08cOmnibrowser.pdf > > Alexandre > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-questions-about-omnibroser-framework-tp3173047p3… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some questions about omnibroser framework

by Alexandre Bergel

A bit outdated, but it may be useful... http://www.bergel.eu/download/papers/Berg08cOmnibrowser.pdf Alexandre On 4 Jan 2011, at 15:53, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev > > 2011/1/4 aizcorbe <juansebastian.aizcorbe(a)gmail.com>: >> >> Not really, i couldn't find any OmniBrowser specific mailing list, i found >> this http://mail.wiresong.ca/mailman/listinfo/ob-dev but seems to be >> offline. If you know some other place where omnibrowser people are, please >> tell me. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>> hi juan sebastien >>> >>> did you try to send this mail to the ob mailing-list? >>> >>> Stef >>> On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:12 AM, aizcorbe wrote: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-questions-about-omnibroser-framework-tp3173047p3… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Morales > Information Technology Manager, > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > Internal: 422 > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some questions about omnibroser framework

by aizcorbe

Great, i'll post this issues there, thanks a lot. cheers HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > > http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev > > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-questions-about-omnibroser-framework-tp3173047p3… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some questions about omnibroser framework

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

http://groups.google.com/group/omnibrowser-dev 2011/1/4 aizcorbe <juansebastian.aizcorbe(a)gmail.com>: > > Not really, i couldn't find any OmniBrowser specific mailing list, i found > this http://mail.wiresong.ca/mailman/listinfo/ob-dev but seems to be > offline. Â If you know some other place where omnibrowser people are, please > tell me. > > Cheers > > > > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> hi juan sebastien >> >> did you try to send this mail to the ob mailing-list? >> >> Stef >> On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:12 AM, aizcorbe wrote: >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-questions-about-omnibroser-framework-tp3173047p3… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- HernÃ¡n Morales Information Technology Manager, Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Some questions about omnibroser framework

by aizcorbe

Not really, i couldn't find any OmniBrowser specific mailing list, i found this http://mail.wiresong.ca/mailman/listinfo/ob-dev but seems to be offline. If you know some other place where omnibrowser people are, please tell me. Cheers StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > hi juan sebastien > > did you try to send this mail to the ob mailing-list? > > Stef > On Jan 4, 2011, at 6:12 AM, aizcorbe wrote: > > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Some-questions-about-omnibroser-framework-tp3173047p3… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 4, 2011

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and CommandShell on OSX ?

by Igor Stasenko

On 4 January 2011 17:34, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 4:25 AM, David T. Lewis wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:55:45PM -0800, Stef T wrote: >>> Hello Everyone, >>> Â So, long time squeaker, first time pharo(er ?). Please don't hold this against me ;) >>> >>> Â I am trying to get CommandShell loaded into Pharo (using the Seaside Image) via Monticello. I have tried this on Pharo 1.1/1.1.1/1.2 for the record (same thing). I skip past the MVC/Morphic errors about PluggableList etc, and I can get the command shell to pop-up, however, two things happen; >>> >> >> The CommandShell package on SqueakSource is also now broken down >> into sub-packages, so you can load the individual parts if you want. >> But just proceding through the MVC warnings as you did is harmless. >> >>> Â 1) CommandShell complains about AioPlugin not being present and that it will use the 'old slow' way. That's fine, it's merely a warning >> >> AFAIK, noone has tried building the AioPlugin for Mac, so you will get this >> warning when running on a Mac. But as you say, it's just a warning. > > I imagine that we will see that with igor and the automatic build too. > was this plugin included into standard vms once before? because currently its not and i don't remember if i built VMs it . -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Jan. 4, 2011

[Pharo-project] SqueakSSL Plugin for Mac OS X

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi, Has anyone got the Squeak SSL plugin [1] to work on Mac OS X, more specifically for the Cog VM family, Pharo 1.1.1 or later and Mac OS X 10.6.5 ? If not, is there some how to guide on building plugins ? TIA, Sven [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakSSL

Jan. 4, 2011