September 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo dev 1.1 & Cog

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > > No problem, you answered your own question :) 1.1.1 apparently has the > required changes integrated, and there are one-click images that use Cog. > > > Not yet official images... and we need some more fixes for 1.1.1 core, too. > This will be done soon.... > And there are several erros/failing tests with CogVM. I've already sent email and I am waiting for the answer....otherwise we cannot release PharoDev 1.1.1 > > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

On 22. 09. 2010 20:06, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > >> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like >> http://research.world.st? >> >> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and >> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have >> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have >> all Smalltalk research website too! > But with that reasoning: Why have a pharo website at all? Because I'm prety sure that researchers working on Pharo want to influence other Smalltalks with your results as well. Posting results on Smalltalk-wide website will surely have much more impact than posting only on Pharo website. Not to mention that researchers using other Smalltalks will have a chance to inspire Pharoers as well. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like > http://research.world.st? > > I think our community is too small to divide it even further and > research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have > thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have > all Smalltalk research website too! But with that reasoning: Why have a pharo website at all? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

On 22. 09. 2010 19:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Good point, but we have to start somewhere. Setup of such website is a matter of minutes, asking Geert Claes to add it in world.st DNS is a matter of another few minutes. Very small effort comparing to gains a whole community get. Janko > > Alexandre > > > > On 22 Sep 2010, at 13:30, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > >> Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like >> http://research.world.st? >> >> I think our community is too small to divide it even further and >> research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have >> thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have >> all Smalltalk research website too! >> >> Janko >> >> On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> +1 >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu >>> <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: >>> >>> Everybody agrees on >>> http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research >>> ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel >>> <alexandre(a)bergel.eu <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo. >>>> There were some announcements on >>> smalltalk-research(a)googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:smalltalk-research@googlegroups.com>, but it is not really >>> useful for me to keep track of what's going on. >>>> Maybe a page accessible from >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories >>>> or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/ >>>> will be good. >>>> >>>> I like the idea. Why not >>> http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ? >>>> >>>> Laurent >>>> >>>> >>>> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort. >>>> Opinion? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >> >> -- >> Janko MivÅ¡ek >> AIDA/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

Sept. 22, 2010

[Pharo-project] Copy from Code::Blocks on Linux

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, A frequent problem I encounter: select and copy text from an editor in Code::Blocks; on pasting into Pharo, I get something other than what I copied. Any ideas what might be happening? Are there multiple clipboards on Linux? Could it be a mismatch in format? I'm using Ubuntu. I frequently work around this by pasting the code into gedit and then copying again from there, after which Pharo "sees" it. Bill

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] TDDFacilities - Restarting a test sends #tearDown and #setUp

by Hernan Wilkinson

yeah... just in case you want to try it, just load the monticello package, it will work anyway (on a pharo dev image) 2010/9/21 Fernando olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch> > By doing ( in pharo core): > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'TDDFacilities'; > package: 'TDD-Facilities'; > load > > You get dependency errors: > > This package depends on the following classes: > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout > DEVToolSet > OBBrowser > OBTextSelection > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these > definitions: > DEVToolSet classSide>>ifOBTools:else: > OBBrowser>>scanNodeCommands: > OBBrowser>>scanTextCommands: > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout classSide>>initializeCmdKeyShortcuts > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout>>debugTest: > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout>>save:andValueTestHelper: > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout>>stepTest: > OBTextMorphEditorWithShout>>valueTestHelper: > OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode > > > So the ConfigurationOfTDDFacilities could take care of resolving this > dependencies, automatically. > > Fernando > > > > On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > > hmm no there is not because it is just one package... do you think it is > worth to have one? > > 2010/9/21 Fernando olivero <fernando.olivero(a)usi.ch> > >> GREAT! >> >> Is there a ConfigurationOfTDDFacilities available? >> >> Fernando >> On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I created a new version of TDDFacilities >> (TDD-Facilities-HernanWilkinson.15) that includes: >> >> 1) When debugging a test and the test is changed or restarted, the >> messages #tearDown and #setUp are sent to the test to restart it in the >> correct state. (This is something I asked to Niall when showing SUnit 4 at >> Esug) >> 2) Fixed and error with the "Create" button that did not appear when doing >> "Step Into" or "Step Over". >> 3) Removed code to make it compatible with Pharo 1.1 >> >> I hope you like it! >> Hernan. >> >> -- >> * >> HernÃ¡n Wilkinson >> Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching >> Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 >> email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com >> site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/> >> * >> <ATT00001..txt> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>* > > <ATT00001..txt> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>*

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

by Alexandre Bergel

Good point, but we have to start somewhere. Alexandre On 22 Sep 2010, at 13:30, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like > http://research.world.st? > > I think our community is too small to divide it even further and > research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have > thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have > all Smalltalk research website too! > > Janko > > On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> +1 >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu >> <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: >> >> Everybody agrees on >> http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research >> ? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> <alexandre(a)bergel.eu <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo. >>> There were some announcements on >> smalltalk-research(a)googlegroups.com >> <mailto:smalltalk-research@googlegroups.com>, but it is not really >> useful for me to keep track of what's going on. >>> Maybe a page accessible from >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories >>> or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/ >>> will be good. >>> >>> I like the idea. Why not >> http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ? >>> >>> Laurent >>> >>> >>> If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort. >>> Opinion? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Webpage for research paper about Pharo?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Why not rather all Smalltalk research page instead? Or website, like http://research.world.st? I think our community is too small to divide it even further and research is something which is by definition wide open. So, as we have thanks to Mariano now all Smalltalk research mailing list, let we have all Smalltalk research website too! Janko On 22. 09. 2010 15:21, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu > <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: > > Everybody agrees on > http://pharo-project.org/documentation/pharo-in-research > ? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 22 Sep 2010, at 07:15, laurent laffont wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu <mailto:alexandre@bergel.eu>> wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I would like to create a webpage that lists papers about Pharo. > > There were some announcements on > smalltalk-research(a)googlegroups.com > <mailto:smalltalk-research@googlegroups.com>, but it is not really > useful for me to keep track of what's going on. > > Maybe a page accessible from > > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories > > or http://www.pharo-project.org/about/ > > will be good. > > > > I like the idea. Why not > http://pharo-project.org/documentation/research-papers ? > > > > Laurent > > > > > > If the community agrees on this, I am willing to lead this effort. > > Opinion? > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Metacello repositories in the future

by Dale Henrichs

Torsten, I assume that you've seen the mail from Mariano where he describes the proposed approach ... in the next week or so I will implement the proposal so that folks can validate the proposal before unleashing it ... The key component to the proposal is that the configurations are _not_ forked ... the same config version can be used for all versions of Pharo and in all repositories. Dale Torsten Bergmann wrote: > One thing I think that should be discussed at ESUG > (sorry I'm not there) is if and how we want to maintain > Metacello repositories for the different Pharo versions > in the future. > > I still think about the project/repo dependency issue: > > An example: we have a repo for Pharo 1.2: > > MetaRepoForPharo12 it may contain a ConfigurationOfFFI that works > for Pharo 1.1. and loads FFI. > it may also contain a ConfigurationOfExternalBrowser > that requires the ConfigurationOfFFI (usual Metacello project > dependency) > > When Pharo 1.3 comes out we have a new MetaRepoForPharo13 and may just > copy ConfigurationOfFFI over since it only loads packages and these packages > may be compatible to Pharo 1.3. So far so good ... but: > > What about ConfigurationOfExternalBrowser, if we just copy it to the > new repo the config still points to the "old" ConfigurationOfFFI in the old MetaRepoForPharo12 repo and not to the new one in MetaRepoForPharo13. > > So we will have to adopt the configs for any new platform version ... > and since world keeps spinnning we may also end up with forked configurations. > > Bye > T. > >

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo dev 1.1 & Cog

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > No problem, you answered your own question :) 1.1.1 apparently has the required changes integrated, and there are one-click images that use Cog. > Not yet official images... and we need some more fixes for 1.1.1 core, too. This will be done soon.... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Sept. 22, 2010