September 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] ECompletion/OCompletion tests takes A LIFE!!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 26, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hi. I am loading OCompletion in PharoCore 1.1 while building the Dev image. >> If I just take a core image, load OCompletion and run tests, they take a lot >> of time, not acceptable. > > 7-8 seconds in Squeak using Cog. and in squeak wihout Cog? >> Now....if I build a Dev image (with OB, RB, etc) and at the end I try to run >> OCompletion tests, the tests takes HOURS. The image seems frozen, but >> actually is working. If I interrupt I see the problem is in >> >> ECUntypedModel >> initializeSelectors >> >> the part of >> >> >> [ Smalltalk environment keysDo: >> [ :each | >> selectors add: (ECGlobalEntry >> contents: each >> type: #globalVar) ]. >> >> >> takes a lot of time > > I know I'm saying this all the time, but it's true: SortedCollection is not suitable for this usage. > > > Levente

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MuTalk: Mutation Testing for Pharo Smalltalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

For the research, we made analysis is some random packages like: Aconcagua, VB-Regex, Network, Magritte and Pier. > > Of course we found places to improve testing on all of these packages. We can continue analysing other places and work on improving testing. > > However, a problem to solve is using MuTalk to run mutation testing on Collection (because MuTalk uses collections) or running mutation testing on MuTalk, I mean, its own model. That is because you are changing its own behaviour while it is running. Eliminate the core classes for now. Stef

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MuTalk: Mutation Testing for Pharo Smalltalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Nicolas Chillo wrote: > We can start improving pharo tests but we should first sign de MIT License agreement. Shouldn`t we? would be good :) Stef >

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] In Smalltalk you can't loose code... hum

by Igor Stasenko

2010/9/26 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>: > > > BTW, now we have Igor's method trailers we can start playing with more than > two source files, e.g. /not/ appending a Monticello package's source to the > changes file, but merely adding it to a special directory, e.g. sources. Yes. I told about potential use of new trailers, where we can implement a model for storing/retrieving source code from any kind of storage. Unfortunately it requires some remodelling of system's source-code management system, to get rid of hard-wired SourceFiles code and add an abstract layer for source management. So we could implement different source managers, where .source and .changes will be just default one. One of my ideas was to use CouchDB for storing everything there. It opens quite interesting opportunities, like being able to browse a history of some particular method up to 1.0 squeak release :) @Stef: add this to pharo todo list :) >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] NativeBoost meets Linux

by Igor Stasenko

Hello all, I just uploaded a fresh snapshots of NB plugin and image code, with necessary bits for using it under Linux. I don't know how to package Linux VM binaries, so you won't find a prebuilt VM and should build it yourself (anyone wants to help me with that, so i can add a prebuilt VM at downloads?). As usual, follow the installation instructions, located here: http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/wiki/Installation Warning: recently, i found a bug in callback code. So, please don't try using smalltalk callbacks until i fix it :) Running tests should be safe (i disabled the test which causing VM crash). -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] In Smalltalk you can't loose code... hum

by Alexandre Bergel

Some times ago I added an option "Previous Content" in a workspace. Get the menu of the workspace (click on the top right icon of a workspace window). Cheers, Alexandre On 26 Sep 2010, at 02:48, George Herolyants wrote: > 2010/9/26 FranÃ§ois Tanguy <francois.tanguy(a)gmail.com>: >> Here is what I did: >> 1) Open a workspace / save the image >> 2) edit the workspace / save Cmd + S >> 3) quit Pharo without saving >> 4) Open pharo -> the workspace is empty > > Of course :) You discarded the state of all the objects you created or > modified during your Pharo session. There is no object representing > workspace anymore. The same result will be if you add some method to > some class, after image restart (without saving) there will be no such > method. In this case you can use Recover Lost Changes tool to restore > your method from .changes file. But in case of workspace you should > *explicitely* save it into a file (using a window menu). And after > image restart you will be able to restore it from that file. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OB failing test08Execution and

by Lukas Renggli

Fixed, please use all the latest versions of the test and core packages. Name: OB-Tests-Standard-lr.123 Author: lr Time: 26 September 2010, 7:31:49 pm UUID: 258a9f47-e09f-455d-b348-29266a4e1dac Ancestors: OB-Tests-Standard-lr.122 - fixed broken category tests On 26 September 2010 19:17, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, lots of tests are currently broken. I am looking into these right now. > > Lukas > > 2010/9/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Lukas. Both implementations ofÂ test08ExecutionÂ fail in: >> >> Â n prompt = 'Create Category'. >> >> becasue "n prompt" -> 'Add Category' >> >> :) >> >> cheers >> >> mariano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] "A Mentoring Course on Smalltalk" Code License

by Andres Valloud

Well, since this discussion is public now :)... exactly what seems to be the problem? The book talks about code that is often in the public Store repository. Is the problem that the code in the public Store repository doesn't have an MIT license? Or is the problem that the book that talks about the code in the public Store repository doesn't say "and the code has an MIT license"? On 9/26/10 7:08 , Serge Stinckwich wrote: > This is better to explicit put a MIT licence. If there is no licence, normally you can't do anything with the code. > > > Le 26 sept. 2010 Ã 17:45, DeNigris Sean<sean(a)clipperadams.com> a Ã©crit : > >> I emailed Andres, the author, and he said "the code didn't have a license because I meant to put no restrictions on it... The MIT license is fine with me. In fact, I released the Hash Analysis Tool and Assessments under the MIT license already." >> >> Then he asked a great question: "Let me know what you need and I'll put it in. Or do you need that the book explicitly states the code mentioned therein is MIT?" >> >> I've been contacting many people to declare code as MIT. What "proof" is considered acceptable? I've been announcing it on the mailing list, so anyone could search back, contact me, and I could send them the email I received from the author, but that requires remembering the post, finding it, etc. What's the best way to go about this? License gurus? >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ECUntypedModelTest >> testNarrowWith failing

by Lukas Renggli

I cannot reproduce the problems with ECompletion. Lukas 2010/9/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> This one of the tests that were inherited from ECompletion I believe ... >>> I don't really know what to do with them. >>> >>> Same for your other email actually, although I seem to remember it >>> used to take a normal amount of time, maybe the implementation of some >>> method changed for the worse? >> >> I remember there was some slowdown in certain type of collections in Pharo >> 1.1. I don't know if hashed, or sorted, weak...I don't know. >> Maybe it is something related to that? > > Ups...sorry this answer was to the other email..the one of the time... > > for this one, I have no idea. MAybe just chaning it to 80 is ok :) > > Or maybe Lukas can explain us. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> >> >>> >>> Â Â Romain >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > This fails where it does: >>> > >>> > self assert: count == model entries size. >>> > Â Â Â self assert: count > 100. >>> > >>> > >>> > since model entries size -> 85 >>> > >>> > >>> > Of course, if I change the test to >>> > >>> > self assert: count == model entries size. >>> > Â Â Â self assert: count > 80. >>> > >>> > it works :) >>> > >>> > Romain ? >>> > >>> > thanks >>> > >>> > mariano >>> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Sept. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OB failing test08Execution and

by Lukas Renggli

Yeah, lots of tests are currently broken. I am looking into these right now. Lukas 2010/9/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Lukas. Both implementations ofÂ test08ExecutionÂ fail in: > > Â n prompt = 'Create Category'. > > becasue "n prompt" -> 'Add Category' > > :) > > cheers > > mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Sept. 26, 2010