August 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] CogVM binaries!!! {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: CogVM on the Mac

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Chris Cunnington < > smalltalktelevision(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wow. Have I been looking in the wrong place. >> I've been downloading trunk build files from svn listed on the >> squeakvm.org/unix pages, but *sigh* I didn't see the trove of stuff you >> just pointed out. And there are specific instructions for Mac and Unix >> builds. This is what I should be looking at. Thank you for pointing there. >> > > For folks' convenience I've just put up some unofficial builds (essentially > the same builds I use for testing) under > http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM > > > HTH > Hi Eliot. This, this HELPS A LOT. This is awesome. Seriously. This is really cool. Now we could start to create a Pharo one click based on Cog. Having the binaries will increase people using it, reporting bugs, and submitting fixes. Two questions: 1) why "unofficial" builds? 2) Do these binaries include the fixes from henrik to avoid the crash tha happens sometime? Thanks Mariano > Eliot > > >> Chris >> >> >> >> > > > >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Dispatch morphic stepping from window back to model

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I agree that we should keep the Model clean :). I think that people used the step to refresh tool and I would really like to avoid that. Now more investigation is needed. On Aug 19, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?cursor=2832 > for details and please help to discuss if we really need > this dispatching of #step methods from the view to the model > and the no-op #step methods in Model and MCTool or if > we can clean things up a little bit > > Thanks > T. > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: HTML parser (again)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That would be really great. As I mentioned before, I am using the CogVM > since its release and it is pretty stable (with the exception of crashes due > to this socket problem). > > The socket problem was fixed by henrik. > Is there a place to report possible bugs related to it, or is this mailing > list the most appropriate place? > > Eliot said <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> was better > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 19 Aug 2010, at 01:26, John M McIntosh wrote: > > I will try to push a CogVM for the mac this weekend, Eliot and I are >> planing some time then to get this out the door. >> >> On 2010-08-18, at 2:05 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >> >> no CogVM is not ready for us. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> >> =========================================================================== >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: >> squeaker68882 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> >> =========================================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Help for pharocasts needed: start pharo on Windows (and OSX).

by laurent laffont

Please please, could someone record the http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/pharo-install.html for Windows ? (and OSX would be great too). It's easy, short, I will add subtitles and edit, or you adapt the original subtitles file http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharocasts/original_and_subtitles/start_pharo.ass Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: HTML parser (again)

by Tudor Girba

That would be really great. As I mentioned before, I am using the CogVM since its release and it is pretty stable (with the exception of crashes due to this socket problem). Is there a place to report possible bugs related to it, or is this mailing list the most appropriate place? Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2010, at 01:26, John M McIntosh wrote: > I will try to push a CogVM for the mac this weekend, Eliot and I are > planing some time then to get this out the door. > > On 2010-08-18, at 2:05 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > >> no CogVM is not ready for us. >> >> >> > > -- > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http:// > www.smalltalkconsulting.com > = > = > = > = > = > ====================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] HTML parser (again)

by laurent laffont

Yes Sean, actually SqueakSource is not really "Share Friendly". I wonder if a solution is not having only one repository for all as Monticello seems to handle branches itself. It seems INRIA will start working on this starting from sept. / oct. The automatic inbox is a solution too. But it doesn't mean packages will be integrated mainstream. I like public writable repository. I also wonder why SS is free for private repository, should be paying (so it can pay someone to manage / evolve SqueakSource). Laurent On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > > laurent laffont wrote: > > > > Sean, could you put your package there ? > > > > The wonderful world of Squeak packages... The package I fixed is Todd > Blanchard's HTML & CSS Validating Parser at > http://www.squeaksource.com/htmlcssparser/, not the Scamper HTML from > http://www.squeaksource.com/HTML, although both packages are called > "HTML." > > However, this is a lovely opportunity to repeat my call for either (or > maybe > both): > * (my favorite) create an inbox for each project on SqS, just like for > Squeak and Pharo trunk, so users can choose between the bleeding edge > (which > would include contributions like this one) or the last officially blessed > one; but they would all be in the same place and obvious to find. > * or, send an email to all SqS emails saying that if they don't affirm > responsibility for their project within X amount of time, the repo will be > released to the community i.e. made w/r. > > I also seem to remember a suggestion at one point to have a list of people > that were approved to commit to any repo on SqS. > > The point is, make it easy to contribute and people will. It is a downer > to > go through the work of fixing packages, only to put them in my own repo > where they may never be found by users, because the repo is read-only and I > can't get in touch with the admins. > > <rant> > Also, adding oneself to each repo is RUBBISH!!!!! Even though I usually > take the time, I shudder at the thought of all the community fixes that > were > kept personally or thrown away because it was a hassle to share them. I'm > sure many people, like me, just fix things that are broken. This is the > whole beauty of a live system that's turtles all the way down - my system's > menus are broken, great, I just spend 20 minutes fixing them for every user > on the planet vs. the typical X months (if ever) for an OS vendor to get > around to a fix > </rant> > > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/HTML-parser-again-tp2329387p2330466.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] FW: FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big

by Robert Sirois

From: watchlala(a)hotmail.com To: watchlala(a)hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:56:37 -0600 Ok... I was running "pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.2". I decided to time machine back to last night, so I only lost a couple hours of work. Somehow Gofer, maybe? added tons of lines of random code to all the methods in the packages I was trying to save out via Monticello and erased all the code I had in them. If you need more information I can pull the image out of time machine from this morning again. Thanks,RS How do I clear the changes or make the max bigger? I would think it would be easy. From: watchlala(a)hotmail.com To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:22:46 -0600 I can't say for sure until I get home but it was the something dot 505 from a little earlier this year. Thanks, RS Oh, also.. that condenseChanges messed up monticello, too. > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:58:32 +0200 > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big > > Oops. > Robert can you tell us which version you are using? > > Stef > > > How do I clear my changes file? Smalltalk condenseChanges. just brings up a PositionalStream error. > > > > Thanks, RS > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: HTML parser (again)

by John M McIntosh

I will try to push a CogVM for the mac this weekend, Eliot and I are planing some time then to get this out the door. On 2010-08-18, at 2:05 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > no CogVM is not ready for us. > > > -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Aug. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big

by Robert Sirois

I can't say for sure until I get home but it was the something dot 505 from a little earlier this year. Thanks, RS Oh, also.. that condenseChanges messed up monticello, too. > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:58:32 +0200 > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big > > Oops. > Robert can you tell us which version you are using? > > Stef > > > How do I clear my changes file? Smalltalk condenseChanges. just brings up a PositionalStream error. > > > > Thanks, RS > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] HTML parser (again)

by Sean P. DeNigris

laurent laffont wrote: > > Sean, could you put your package there ? > The wonderful world of Squeak packages... The package I fixed is Todd Blanchard's HTML & CSS Validating Parser at http://www.squeaksource.com/htmlcssparser/, not the Scamper HTML from http://www.squeaksource.com/HTML, although both packages are called "HTML." However, this is a lovely opportunity to repeat my call for either (or maybe both): * (my favorite) create an inbox for each project on SqS, just like for Squeak and Pharo trunk, so users can choose between the bleeding edge (which would include contributions like this one) or the last officially blessed one; but they would all be in the same place and obvious to find. * or, send an email to all SqS emails saying that if they don't affirm responsibility for their project within X amount of time, the repo will be released to the community i.e. made w/r. I also seem to remember a suggestion at one point to have a list of people that were approved to commit to any repo on SqS. The point is, make it easy to contribute and people will. It is a downer to go through the work of fixing packages, only to put them in my own repo where they may never be found by users, because the repo is read-only and I can't get in touch with the admins. <rant> Also, adding oneself to each repo is RUBBISH!!!!! Even though I usually take the time, I shudder at the thought of all the community fixes that were kept personally or thrown away because it was a hassle to share them. I'm sure many people, like me, just fix things that are broken. This is the whole beauty of a live system that's turtles all the way down - my system's menus are broken, great, I just spend 20 minutes fixing them for every user on the planet vs. the typical X months (if ever) for an OS vendor to get around to a fix </rant> Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/HTML-parser-again-tp2329387p2330466.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 18, 2010