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[Pharo-project] cogVM in pharo {WAS} Re: [squeak-dev] Re: HTML parser (again)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 PM, stephane ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > no CogVM is not ready for us. > > why not? It tohught it was everything working but objects as methods.... is there something else? > > > Is there a one-click image for CogVM somewhere so I can download it? > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:34 AM, laurent laffont > > <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've been looking for a nice and fast HTML parser. > >>> I've found Zulq Alam's Soup > >>> (http://www.squeaksource.com/@vHckXt8_6gVtXFxy/XMrjDbIs) it looks nice > >>> but it's way too slow for me (takes 5 sec to parse the page, my > >>> current lisp parser takes about 1 sec for that.) > >>> I found another one, Todd Blanchard's HTML and CSS parser > >>> (http://www.squeaksource.com/@iMgHmTKVxU00wEdz/A0jkqk71) but I > >>> couldn't load it into Pharo 1.1 or Squeak 4.1. > >>> It complains about some syntax error and leaves the progress bar which > >>> I can't kill... > >>> I wonder if anyone (Todd?) can take a look at the parser and figure > >>> out how to fix it? > >>> > >>> What other options I have for an HTML parser? > >>> Looking at Pharo speed I wonder if there is any way to optimize it? Is > >>> JIT or some other speed optimization in plans for Pharo/Squeak? > >> > >> > >> What do you need to do ? > >> There's XMLSupport http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport.html > >> Scamper might have a standalone HTML > >> parser http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper.html > >> The CogVM has JIT. > >> Laurent. > >> > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> Andrei > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] organization

by James Foster

Stef, As part of his GSoC 2010 project, GermÃ¡n Leiva has been doing some refactoring of this and has some sample code at http://www.squeaksource.com/Environments.html. While it hasn't come as far as I hoped, it does give an interesting insight into some of the relationships between environment, organization, and related things (the Monticello implications were somewhat nontrivial). Although the GSoC is officially over, I expect to be working on this going forward and would like to have a significant discussion with interested parties at ESUG next month. How quickly do you want to solve this? ;-) James On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:29 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > so far we have > > SystemDictionary>>organization > "Return the organizer for the receiver" > ^SystemOrganization > > so it means that this is global in Smalltalk globals. > But I'm skeptical that this can work for another instance of SystemDictionary > and even if this works I find this code brittle since it relies on the compiler global look up. > > I was thinking that > > either defining an organization as an instance variable SystemDictionary would make sense or > using an explicit lookup in the instance itself. > > SystemDictionary>>organization > "Return the organizer for the receiver" > ^ self at: #SystemOrganization > > now I'm dead so I need other eyes. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] Re: moose images for cog vm

by Tudor Girba

There are several images built on this server: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/ The base one works with the standard Pharo 1.1: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/ Cheers, Doru On 19 Aug 2010, at 22:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > could you still have the old one in addition? > I think that this is good to have a slow system to find that we are > missing basic optimization. > On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Given the nice recent improvements of the Cog VM, the >> hudson.moosetechnology.org continuous integration server now >> produces Moose images that work with this VM: >> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-for-cog/ >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, >> you will end up with a messy haircut." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Moose-dev] moose images for cog vm

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

could you still have the old one in addition? I think that this is good to have a slow system to find that we are missing basic optimization. On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Given the nice recent improvements of the Cog VM, the hudson.moosetechnology.org continuous integration server now produces Moose images that work with this VM: > http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-for-cog/ > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, > you will end up with a messy haircut." > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Aug. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] organization

by stephane ducasse

so far we have SystemDictionary>>organization "Return the organizer for the receiver" ^SystemOrganization so it means that this is global in Smalltalk globals. But I'm skeptical that this can work for another instance of SystemDictionary and even if this works I find this code brittle since it relies on the compiler global look up. I was thinking that either defining an organization as an instance variable SystemDictionary would make sense or using an explicit lookup in the instance itself. SystemDictionary>>organization "Return the organizer for the receiver" ^ self at: #SystemOrganization now I'm dead so I need other eyes. Stef

Aug. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] moose images for cog vm

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Given the nice recent improvements of the Cog VM, the hudson.moosetechnology.org continuous integration server now produces Moose images that work with this VM: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-for-cog/ Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

Aug. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Esug-list] Looking for Smalltalkers

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Georg Heeg" <georg(a)heeg.de> > Date: August 19, 2010 12:33:15 PM GMT+02:00 > To: "ESUG Members" <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > Subject: [Esug-list] Looking for Smalltalkers > Reply-To: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > Dear Smalltalkers, > > We are looking to enlarge our Smalltalk team in KÃ¶then (Anhalt) or Dortmund. > > Georg Heeg > > Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und KÃ¶then, HR Dortmund A 12812 > Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki spam experience

by TimM

Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Any wiki. If you want something more specific, does our Pharo site wiki remain unscarred because we control who can edit it, or is there something to stop me from doing bad things to it if I were so inclined? I am asking on behalf of somone who has had problems with a wider audience. You could refer to James Robertson's blog posts on how he handles comments for his blog (I recall he has lots of different strategies that he's incorporated) Tim

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks henrik, you uploaded the code in the pharoNonCore repo? Stef On Aug 19, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > There are three senders of #clone in the 1.1 One-click image, all part of the sound package. > (I've uploaded a new version to PharoSound where this is fixed, and #copy occurences replaced with #postCopy implementations instead). > > ArrayedCollection>>mergeSortFrom:to:by uses shallowCopy. > I'd check what code you've imported which has changed that. > > Cheers, > Henry > > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 6:49 43PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > >> Better :-) The attached image is of a stack trace that shows where the error occurs, which is certainly helpful! >> >> During the execution of ArrayedCollection>>#mergeSortFrom:to:by:, the message #clone is sent to an instance of Array, and the message is not understood, which means that there is no method called #clone in the Array class or any of its superclasses. >> >> So the question is, why is the message being sent, when no corresponding method exists on the receiver? One possibility is that there is an error in the method where the #clone message is being sent, or that the missing method just hasn't been filed in yet. The next step would probably be to look at the file being filed in, and see what methods it contains. Perhaps it depends on another file that needs to be filed in first? >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Peter >> >> 2010/8/19 Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> >> No problem, Pharo's driving me crazy today hehe. >> >> It says: "*** system error handling failed ***" (see attached image). >> >> Thanks, >> RS >> >> > From: oldmanlink(a)gmail.com >> > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:33:03 +0200 >> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can't file in *.st exports >> >> > >> > Pardon me for being blunt, Robert, but we're going to need a bit more to go on than "some sort of weird system error". >> > >> > Could you please attach a file that you tried to file in, and maybe a screenshot of the error? It would certainly increase your chances of getting some help ;-) >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Peter. >> > >> > On 19 aug 2010, at 17:11, Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > There's some sort of weird system error when I try to fileIn a *.st file (like a class method). It asks me to "CR" for a debugger or any key to restart. I ended up having to force quit. >> > > >> > > This is in the latest 1.1 one-click. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > RS >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Working on Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Great!!! Stef On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Ok, here are the two URLs with redirects to the current 1.1 release downloads. > > http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable > http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable-core > > I've closed #2805. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Aug 16, 2010, at 22:14 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> >> On Aug 16, 2010, at 21:53 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> That's excellent, but is Pharo 1.2 already stable? >> >> No, its not stable. I just picked a random link to allow people to test this setup. Sorry for the confusion... >> >> Adrian >> >>> >>> On 16 August 2010 21:51, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >>>> Just as a test, I created the following page that redirects to a Pharo download zip. >>>> >>>> http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download/stable >>>> >>>> It redirects with a HTTP 302 response. Does that work for the scripts in use? We would like to keep the files on the existing server and serve them from there. >>>> >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 16:35 , Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>> >>>>> We are working on it... or rather, we are discussing how to do it. It's not forgotten. >>>>> >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 14:42 , Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> send the code :) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What is the status of the unique link to stable and trunk discussed at >>>>>> http://forum.world.st/is-there-an-unique-URL-to-the-latest-pharo-core-or-de… >>>>>> ? Having a static url would prevent having to constantly update the URL >>>>>> referenced in the "find trunk here" message. I created an issue: >>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2805 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sean >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Working-on-Pharo-1-2-tp2322972p2325897.html >>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 19, 2010