August 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Updating Pharo kernel

by Andrei Stebakov

Is there a procedure similar to Squeak for updating to the latest kernel?

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Robert, On 20 Aug 2010, at 16:19, Robert Sirois wrote: > Adding an image to a WAFileLibrary (100 - 150kb) increases the changes file size by 0.5 mb consistently. That is perfectly normal: the textual representation of your binary image ( ^ #( 34 34 4 3 23 ... 34 2 2) asByteArray ) is many times larger than the bytes themselves. This representation is in a method's source code. All method source code is written to the changes file, every time it changes. WAFileLibrary is great because it is super easy, flexible and convenient, but it is not meant for heavy use. Sven

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Esug-list] The SOM Family

by Michael Haupt

... thanks. ;-) On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:29 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Michael Haupt <mhaupt(a)gmail.com> >> Date: September 17, 2009 5:48:57 PM GMT+02:00 >> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> >> Subject: [Esug-list] The SOM Family >> Reply-To: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> >> >> Hi, >> >> apologies for cross-posting ... >> >> At ESUG, I gave a short presentation on the SOM family of virtual >> machine implementations (in Java, C, C++, and Squeak), and also said >> that the VMs were not yet available. >> >> Well, *that* has changed now. They're available. They're MIT licensed. >> They're fun. They're there for youse to use. ;-) >> >> I have one request: if you use them, please let me know. I'm curious >> in what scenarios they're deployed. Also, please let me know about any >> problems, suggestions for improvement, and such. >> >> Oh, ere I forget: http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/projects/som :-) >> >> Best, >> >> Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Esug-list] The SOM Family

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Haupt <mhaupt(a)gmail.com> > Date: September 17, 2009 5:48:57 PM GMT+02:00 > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > Subject: [Esug-list] The SOM Family > Reply-To: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > > Hi, > > apologies for cross-posting ... > > At ESUG, I gave a short presentation on the SOM family of virtual > machine implementations (in Java, C, C++, and Squeak), and also said > that the VMs were not yet available. > > Well, *that* has changed now. They're available. They're MIT licensed. > They're fun. They're there for youse to use. ;-) > > I have one request: if you use them, please let me know. I'm curious > in what scenarios they're deployed. Also, please let me know about any > problems, suggestions for improvement, and such. > > Oh, ere I forget: http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/projects/som :-) > > Best, > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big

by Robert Sirois

Adding an image to a WAFileLibrary (100 - 150kb) increases the changes file size by 0.5 mb consistently. Pharo 10505 RS From: watchlala(a)hotmail.com To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:18:18 -0600 Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big I can't be responsible for all my code ;) What is the solution by the way? My changes file is up from 9mb last night to 31.5 just this morning already... RS Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:01:13 +0200 From: marianopeck(a)gmail.com To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big 2010/8/19 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> From: Robert Sirois <watchlala(a)hotmail.com> Date: August 19, 2010 3:17:56 PM GMT+02:00 To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: RE: [Pharo-project] FW: [Seaside] Changes file too big Mmk, thank you. Pharo: pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.2.image VM: Squeak 4.2.2beta1U The log file is attached. mmmm wierd...are you tryiing to create a class called serhgresh ? it should be uppercase... Serhgresh On Aug 19, 2010, at 3:09 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > on which os are you? > Normally there is a log file just close to your vm or image. > -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I load metacello without OB

by Tudor Girba

Indeed, now we could add this method in Gofer. Cheers, Doru On 20 Aug 2010, at 16:01, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > > > > The problem is in ConfigurationOfRPackage as in #ensureMetacello > is like this: > > > > ensureMetacello > > Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [ > > Gofer new > > disableRepositoryErrors; > > url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project > latestVersion load: #('default' 'UI') ] > > I hate the fact that we should copy all the code around.... > what a crap. > > This was discussed several, severaaaaal times. As I remember the > problem was that otherwise you class depends on a base class that > should be included in the image you are working on. > But I guess we don't have problem to add such base class in > PharoCore...if we have Gofer.. > > > > > > > > If you see, it is loading #('default' 'UI') of metacello..... UI - > > OB. > > > > change that to #('default') and wala > > > > BTW, I would use the latest recommended #ensureMetacello: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/EnsureMetacello > > > > cheers > > > > mariano > > > > > > And stuck because OB does not load in 1.2 so I lost one hour...... > boring. > > > > Stef > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Live like you mean it."

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I load metacello without OB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > > > > The problem is in ConfigurationOfRPackage as in #ensureMetacello is like > this: > > > > ensureMetacello > > Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [ > > Gofer new > > disableRepositoryErrors; > > url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project latestVersion > load: #('default' 'UI') ] > > I hate the fact that we should copy all the code around.... > what a crap. > This was discussed several, severaaaaal times. As I remember the problem was that otherwise you class depends on a base class that should be included in the image you are working on. But I guess we don't have problem to add such base class in PharoCore...if we have Gofer.. > > > > > > If you see, it is loading #('default' 'UI') of metacello..... UI -> OB. > > > > change that to #('default') and wala > > > > BTW, I would use the latest recommended #ensureMetacello: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/EnsureMetacello > > > > cheers > > > > mariano > > > > > > And stuck because OB does not load in 1.2 so I lost one hour...... > boring. > > > > Stef > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I load metacello without OB

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > The problem is in ConfigurationOfRPackage as in #ensureMetacello is like this: > > ensureMetacello > Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [ > Gofer new > disableRepositoryErrors; > url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project latestVersion load: #('default' 'UI') ] I hate the fact that we should copy all the code around.... what a crap. > > > If you see, it is loading #('default' 'UI') of metacello..... UI -> OB. > > change that to #('default') and wala > > BTW, I would use the latest recommended #ensureMetacello: > > http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/EnsureMetacello > > cheers > > mariano > > > And stuck because OB does not load in 1.2 so I lost one hour...... boring. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How can I load metacello without OB

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > HI guys > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRPackage'; > load > > > ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #default > > I thought that default would only load core since > > there is > > > package: 'Metacello-Core' with: [ > spec includes: #('Metacello-MC' > 'Metacello-Platform' ). ]; > package: 'Metacello-MC' with: [ > spec requires: #('Metacello-Core' 'Gofer > Core' ). ]; > package: 'Metacello-Platform' with: [ > spec requires: #('Metacello-MC' ). ]; > > spec group: 'default' with: #('Metacello-Core' ); > > but it loads OB so I'm confused. > The problem is in ConfigurationOfRPackage as in #ensureMetacello is like this: ensureMetacello Smalltalk at: #MetacelloProject ifAbsent: [ Gofer new disableRepositoryErrors; url: 'http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello'; package: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project latestVersion load: #('default' 'UI') ] If you see, it is loading #('default' 'UI') of metacello..... UI -> OB. change that to #('default') and wala BTW, I would use the latest recommended #ensureMetacello: http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/EnsureMetacello cheers mariano And stuck because OB does not load in 1.2 so I lost one hour...... boring. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] How can I load metacello without OB

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

HI guys Gofer new squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRPackage'; load ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #default I thought that default would only load core since there is package: 'Metacello-Core' with: [ spec includes: #('Metacello-MC' 'Metacello-Platform' ). ]; package: 'Metacello-MC' with: [ spec requires: #('Metacello-Core' 'Gofer Core' ). ]; package: 'Metacello-Platform' with: [ spec requires: #('Metacello-MC' ). ]; spec group: 'default' with: #('Metacello-Core' ); but it loads OB so I'm confused. And stuck because OB does not load in 1.2 so I lost one hour...... boring. Stef

Aug. 20, 2010