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Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12106

by Noury Bouraqadi

Ocean == Object-oriented, Cross-platform, and Effective Api for Networking. Ok. That's a just a sentence to fit the acronym ;-) It is a re-implementation of a networking library that does not require a socket plugin for the VM. We (Luc and I) do it based on Alien. Noury On 24 aoÃ»t 2010, at 16:05, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> Luc and i restarted working on Ocean last week after vacation. We moved to 1.1 and improved socket a bit. >> I'll carry on with the socket chapter too :-) > > In one sentence, what is Ocean? > > Alexandre > > >> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> ok. I should have read all my emails before answering :-) >>>> >>>> Noury >>>> On 22 aoÃ»t 2010, at 21:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> 12106 >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> - Issue 2843: ColoredCodeStream not used. Thanks Marcus Denker. >>>>> >>>>> - Issue 2769: Fixes for broken SocketStream behavior. Thanks Andreas Raab >>>>> >>>>> Fix the loop in network tests. >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PackageInfo >> printOn:

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Or maybe we can add PackageInfo >> name ^ self packageName On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. The current implementation of PackageInfo >> printOn: is this: > > printOn: aStream > > super printOn: aStream. > aStream nextPutAll: '(',self packageName,')'. > > So...it prints something like this: 'aPackageInfo(Collections-Weak)' > > most of the times I prefer to print 'Collections-Weak' > > in my image I change it to > > printOn: aStream > > aStream nextPutAll: self packageName. > > Do you think this can be useful for the rest or I just keep it in my image? > > Cheers > > Mariano >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Float>>basicAt: primitive for Cog

by Henrik Johansen

Den 24.08.2010 13:36, skrev Guillermo Polito: > Hi! > > taking a look at issue 2579 > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2579 I saw it's all > done but: > > "The float access methods are an alternative to what is described in > 2580 / 2581 , didn't see this when I posted. > They are slightly slower in a CogVM when primitive fails, since you > will have 2 primitive failures before handling, but do not need the > Parser change which allows primitive pragmas with non-literal error > parameter. > > Either way, if this approach is chosen, we might as well write: (same > for basicAt:put:) > Float >> basicAt: index > <primitive: 38> > ^super basicAt: index > as ec is always nil in this case." > > That should replace > > Float >> basicAt: index > "...." > <primitive: 38> > | ec | > ec == nil ifTrue: "primitive not implemented; floats are in > big-endian/PowerPC order." > [^super basicAt: index]. > index isInteger ifTrue: [self errorSubscriptBounds: index]. > index isNumber > ifTrue: [^self basicAt: index asInteger] > ifFalse: [self errorNonIntegerIndex] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I ran all the FloatTests and I got: > > -Cog VM: all green before and after the change. > -non-Cog VM: 1 failure (on testNaNCompare) before and after the change > I don't get any failures on a Windows-nonCog 4.0.2 vm... On what platform, and which parts of NaNCompare is failing exactly? > I can't see tests for the primitive failure, maybe we should have... > ? If primitive 38 fails, you're either not on a Cog vm, or the error conditions are exactly the same as for Object basicAt:. > Anyway, I wonder if this change is ok for the non-cog vm also. Does > anyone know? > Yes, of course, otherwise it wouldn't be an alternative ;) Cheers, Henry

Aug. 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] PackageInfo >> printOn:

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi. The current implementation of PackageInfo >> printOn: is this: printOn: aStream super printOn: aStream. aStream nextPutAll: '(',self packageName,')'. So...it prints something like this: 'aPackageInfo(Collections-Weak)' most of the times I prefer to print 'Collections-Weak' in my image I change it to printOn: aStream aStream nextPutAll: self packageName. Do you think this can be useful for the rest or I just keep it in my image? Cheers Mariano

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

I'm writing him ... 2010/8/24 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>: > Good info! And Bruce is on this list? Someone know how to contact him? > > > 2010/8/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: >> On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? >>> >>> How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with >>> this package IIRC. >> >> AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. >> >> Lukas >> >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >>>> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >>>> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >>>> copyright holder. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>>>> >>>>> One license text on the package says: >>>>> >>>>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>>>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>>>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>>>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>>>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>>>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What do you think? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> >>>>>> +1 >>>>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>>>> to the community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clues? >>>>>>>> German. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ================================================= >>>>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>>>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>>>> ================================================= >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Pharo-users] 3600 seconds seconds = 0 ???

by Nicolas Cellier

What about the fractional part ? Should asSeconds and seconds answer an integral truncated number, or should it answer the fractional subSeconds part (a ScaledDecimal ? aFloat ?) Nicolas 2010/8/24 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2855 > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> yes please! >> Thanks for checking. >> >> Stef >> On Aug 24, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> >> > According to the pdf in here http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/172 >> > >> > Duration may have >> > ... >> > asSeconds >> > Â Answer the total number of seconds in the length of time >> > represented by the receiver. >> > ... >> > days >> > Â Answer the number of complete days in the receiver. >> > hours >> > Â Answer the number of complete hours in the receiver. >> > minutes >> > Â Answer the number of complete minutes in the receiver. >> > ... >> > seconds >> > Â Answer the number of seconds in the receiver. >> > >> > So maybe the best thing to do is to correct the comments and extend the >> > api. >> > >> > Should I open a ticket? >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> we should check our ugly standard because apparently seconds comes from >> >> ANSI. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>>> 3600 seconds seconds = 0 >> >>>> Â Â Â Â which means that this is a number of seconds in the >> >>>> hour:min:seconds decomposition >> >>>> >> >>>> Now it looks to me that the method comment is wrong >> >>> >> >>> yeap >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> seconds >> >>>> Â Â Â Â "Answer the number of seconds the receiver represents." >> >>>> >> >>>> Â Â Â Â ^ (seconds rem: SecondsInMinute) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 3600 seconds asSeconds = 3600 is what is working >> >>>> >> >>>> may be (Duration seconds: 3600) would be better >> >>>> >> >>>> To me there is something conceptually bogus with such definition of >> >>>> minutes and seconds. >> >>>> Â Â Â Â (Duration seconds: 3600) minutes = 0 >> >>>> Â Â Â Â (Duration seconds: 3600) seconds = 0 >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> that's the same you remarked, the decomposition of the duration :). >> >>> Maybe there are better names for the decomposition... Or better >> >>> comments. >> >>> >> >>> I'm looking that Duration also lacks methods to get the total hours >> >>> and minutes the duration represents (Which is the behavior you >> >>> expected, didn't you?). Â Something like >> >>> >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3600) totalMinutes = 60 >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3600) totalSeconds = 3600 >> >>> >> >>> But, what about something like >> >>> >> >>> (Duration seconds: 3601) totalMinutes = Â (3601/60) ?? >> >>> >> >>> Guille >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Stef >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-users mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 'foo' asTime

by Nicolas Cellier

In squeak, (Integer readFromString: 'foo') ->Error Use: - Integer readFrom: 'foo' ifFail: [0], tp get backward compatibility, - (Integer readFrom: 'foo' ifFail: []), to get nil Though it is possible, I dislike anwsering nil, because it would mean a bunch of #readFrom: send should be protected by #ifNil: Blocks... 1) That's nonsense, readFrom:ifFail: already does the work. 2) you cripple the code with Error conditions and end up with unreadable C-looking like code (3 lines of Error condition crap for 1 line of underlying algorithm at every function call) 3) Exception handling can avoid long chains of ifFail: / ifNil: tests But that conversation already took place many times... I'd like the readFrom:ifFail: form to be generalized to other objects, with default behaviour raising an Error. What do you think ? Nicolas 2010/8/24 Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be>: > > On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> I thought that readFromString: was raising an error and that guessNumber* was returning zero > > I thought that too. I even have application code that shows that this used to return nil in some version of Pharo... > But: > > 'foo' asInteger = nil > Integer readFromString: 'foo' = 0 > 'foo' asNumber -> Error > > aargh :-( > > disclaimer: currently testing this in pharo1.1 > > Johan > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Good info! And Bruce is on this list? Someone know how to contact him? 2010/8/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>: > On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? >> >> How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with >> this package IIRC. > > AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. > > Lukas > >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >>> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >>> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >>> copyright holder. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> >>>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>>> >>>> One license text on the package says: >>>> >>>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>>> >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>>> to the community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clues? >>>>>>> German. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ================================================= >>>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>>> ================================================= >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino >> Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com >> ================================================= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by Lukas Renggli

On 24 August 2010 16:18, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? > > How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with > this package IIRC. AFAIK, the original author of SPDF is Bruce Badger. Lukas > > Cheers. > > > 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: >> It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are >> not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the >> copyright holder. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >>> >>> One license text on the package says: >>> >>> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >>> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >>> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >>> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >>> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >>> web site, at www.splwg.com. >>> >>> >>> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >>> >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>>> >>>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>>> >>>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>>> changes on UI. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>>> to the community. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>>> notes on the source >>>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Clues? >>>>>> German. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support busines

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Yes, but who is the copywriter if the web site don't exist anymore? How to contact? May be Lukas know more, being that was involved with this package IIRC. Cheers. 2010/8/24 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>: > It looks like you are in the possession of copyrighted code and that you are > not allowed to do anything with it unless you have permission from the > copyright holder. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 24 Aug 2010, at 15:38, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> I've the basics working, but, I should crete a repo on Squeaksource? >> >> One license text on the package says: >> >> Copyright (c) 1998 SPL WorldGroup, Inc. ("SPL WorldGroup"). Â All >> rights reserved. Protected by the copyright laws of the United States >> and international treaties. Â This software may only be used in >> accordance with the terms and conditions of the "SPL WorldGroup, Inc. >> Software Web Site Agreement" which can be viewed on SPL WorldGroup's >> web site, at www.splwg.com. >> >> >> As far as I saw splwg.com now point to Oracle web site..... >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>> >>> +1 >>> On Aug 24, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> This would be indeed a valuable addition to the Pharo libraries. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 24 Aug 2010, at 14:31, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Stef! >>>>> >>>>> It loads ok on the latest PharoCore 1.2. >>>>> >>>>> A quick try show me that the tests don't work mainly because the >>>>> changes on UI. >>>>> >>>>> I can add this to my infinite to-do list and take a look if is worth >>>>> to the community. >>>>> >>>>> Also we should add a repo on SqueakSource? I noticed several license >>>>> notes on the source >>>>> code, but not idea if can be released as mit or not..... >>>>> >>>>> Clues? >>>>> German. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/8/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to have native, or at least better, libraries for >>>>>>> manipulating PDFs >>>>>>> and office files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stephan >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >>>> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino Â <gsa @ arsol.net> Â Twitter: garduino >> Arduino Software & Web Hosting Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> PasswordsPro Â http://www.passwordspro.com >> ================================================= >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What we can governs what we wish." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

Aug. 24, 2010