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Re: [Pharo-project] ProgressDisplay package released

by Alexandre Bergel

Yep, a screenshot will be cool Alexandre On 2 Aug 2010, at 10:52, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Cool > > Can you tell us some of the added features? > > Stef > >> I recently released the first draft of my package ProgressDisplay to >> SqueakSource. >> It is like SystemProgressMorph et. al. but with a lot of bells and >> whistles added. >> It is not a suitable replacement for SystemProgressMorph though because it is >> too large and specific for that. SystemProgressMorph could be made a subclass >> of one of its classes though. >> >> It is designed largely to meet my specific needs but since it's MIT anyone may >> use it, steal components, or move components of it to Squeak/Pharo. >> It has a utility class category with useful classes for things like >> array permutation generation and array multiset permutation >> generation, numeric partitioning of a number, and a class RangeList >> (which I will be expanding upon later). All of these classes will be >> removed when the package meant to contain them is ready (not soon). >> There are also a number of utility methods that could be stolen or put >> into Squeak/Pharo proper. >> >> It probably has lots of bugs, so bug reports appreciated. >> Comments on its function, design, and implementation most welcome. >> Proposals for improvements or extensions will be considered but no promises. >> If you need access to make changes let me know. >> If Levente Uzonyi likes it but feels compelled to rewrite it >> completely from scratch, thats okay too. :-) >> >> ONE OF MY REASONS FOR RELEASING IT IS BECAUSE OF A >> BUG I COULD NOT FIX. >> It is supposed to be possible to turn on the ability to catch user interrupts >> but when this feature is turned on and an interrupt generated while >> the progress bar is displayed the interrupt is caught but not processed >> until the progress bar closes. :-( >> Of course the interrupt was meant to be processed immediately. >> If anyone can tell me how to fix this bug (or better still send me the >> code or add the code to the package) that would be great! >> >> Regards, >> >> Ralph Boland >> >> -- >> Quantum Theory cannot save us from the tyranny of a deterministic universe >> but it does give God something to do >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ProgressDisplay package released

by Serge Stinckwich

Yes sell you work ! Not everyone has time to test ;-) On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Yep, a screenshot will be cool > > Alexandre > > > On 2 Aug 2010, at 10:52, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Cool >> >> Can you tell us some of the added features? >> >> Stef >> >>> I recently released the first draft of my package ProgressDisplay to >>> SqueakSource. >>> It is like SystemProgressMorph et. al. but with a lot of bells and >>> whistles added. >>> It is not a suitable replacement for SystemProgressMorph though because it is >>> too large and specific for that. SystemProgressMorph could be made a subclass >>> of one of its classes though. >>> >>> It is designed largely to meet my specific needs but since it's MIT anyone may >>> use it, steal components, or move components of it to Squeak/Pharo. >>> It has a utility class category with useful classes for things like >>> array permutation generation and array multiset permutation >>> generation, numeric partitioning of a number, and a class RangeList >>> (which I will be expanding upon later). Â All of these classes will be >>> removed when the package meant to contain them is ready (not soon). >>> There are also a number of utility methods that could be stolen or put >>> into Squeak/Pharo proper. >>> >>> It probably has lots of bugs, so bug reports appreciated. >>> Comments on its function, design, and implementation most welcome. >>> Proposals for improvements or extensions will be considered but no promises. >>> If you need access to make changes let me know. >>> If Levente Uzonyi likes it but feels compelled to rewrite it >>> completely from scratch, thats okay too. :-) >>> >>> ONE OF MY REASONS FOR RELEASING IT IS BECAUSE OF A >>> BUG I COULD NOT FIX. >>> It is supposed to be possible to turn on the ability to catch user interrupts >>> but when this feature is turned on and an interrupt generated while >>> the progress bar is displayed the interrupt is caught but not processed >>> until the progress bar closes. :-( >>> Of course the interrupt was meant to be processed immediately. >>> If anyone can tell me how to fix this bug (or better still send me the >>> code or add the code to the package) that would be great! >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Ralph Boland >>> >>> -- >>> Quantum Theory cannot save us from the tyranny of a deterministic universe >>> but it does give God something to do >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cog-based image crashes on mac

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks for the explanation and code. On Aug 2, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:40 53AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> The changes I submitted are the ones of Eliot adapted to work in >> Pharo. I don't understand what Henrik writes, if he has something >> better he should attach the change. >> >> Lukas > > Not better, just simpler code. > > If I'm not mistaken, if primitive 38 fails in Cog, so will primitive 60. > Primitive 38 will always fail in a non-cog vm. > The failure handling code after the ec == nil check is the same in Float>>basicAt: and Object basicAt: > > Thus, writing > Float>>basicAt: index > <primitive:38> > ^super basicAt: index > > would yield the exact same result, with the difference that you will have an extra primtive 60 failure in Cog vm's, an ec = nil check less in non-cog VM's, and no duplication of the fallback-handling code. > > The alternate code was attached, in issue 2581. > > Cheers, > Henry > >> >> On Sunday, August 1, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> lukas >>> >>> could you have a look at >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2579 >>> because henrik mentioned that we missed something or could do it better. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Jul 26, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> >>>>>>> The image I got is based on the sources from 27.06.2010. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may be missing some image-side changes. The CogVM was open sourced on >>>>>> 20.06.2010. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, where should I get the complete image-side changes from? I have >>>>> those prepared by Lukas a while ago. >>>> >>>> Yeah, these are the complete ones from the repository adapted to Pharo. >>>> >>>> Maybe these same socket related crashes that randomly appear with >>>> Seaside images? >>>> >>>> nanosleep: Invalid argument >>>> Exited with exit code: 1 >>>> >>>> Lukas >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lukas Renggli >>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ProgressDisplay package released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool Can you tell us some of the added features? Stef > I recently released the first draft of my package ProgressDisplay to > SqueakSource. > It is like SystemProgressMorph et. al. but with a lot of bells and > whistles added. > It is not a suitable replacement for SystemProgressMorph though because it is > too large and specific for that. SystemProgressMorph could be made a subclass > of one of its classes though. > > It is designed largely to meet my specific needs but since it's MIT anyone may > use it, steal components, or move components of it to Squeak/Pharo. > It has a utility class category with useful classes for things like > array permutation generation and array multiset permutation > generation, numeric partitioning of a number, and a class RangeList > (which I will be expanding upon later). All of these classes will be > removed when the package meant to contain them is ready (not soon). > There are also a number of utility methods that could be stolen or put > into Squeak/Pharo proper. > > It probably has lots of bugs, so bug reports appreciated. > Comments on its function, design, and implementation most welcome. > Proposals for improvements or extensions will be considered but no promises. > If you need access to make changes let me know. > If Levente Uzonyi likes it but feels compelled to rewrite it > completely from scratch, thats okay too. :-) > > ONE OF MY REASONS FOR RELEASING IT IS BECAUSE OF A > BUG I COULD NOT FIX. > It is supposed to be possible to turn on the ability to catch user interrupts > but when this feature is turned on and an interrupt generated while > the progress bar is displayed the interrupt is caught but not processed > until the progress bar closes. :-( > Of course the interrupt was meant to be processed immediately. > If anyone can tell me how to fix this bug (or better still send me the > code or add the code to the package) that would be great! > > Regards, > > Ralph Boland > > -- > Quantum Theory cannot save us from the tyranny of a deterministic universe > but it does give God something to do > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] CampSmalltalk London tutorial

by stephane ducasse

Thanks nick I know that several teachers will start new Smalltalk lectures using pharo and this will probably help them. On Aug 2, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Nick Ager wrote: > Hi > > Though it's been a couple of weeks since CampSmalltalk London, I've only just got round to creating a ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon which can be used to download the beginners tutorial Tim Mackinnon and I created. > > First some context. The beginners tutorial ran on the first day. We had 9 developers with a mixed background in Ruby/Java/C#/PHP etc. We started by going through the excellent ProfStef tutorial which we used as jump off point for frequent asides into the tools and code in Pharo. > > Next we gave them a simple exercise. You can download the code by grabbing ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon from http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository.html and executing: > > (ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon project version: '1.0') load. > > The aim was to put into practice some of the concepts they'd learnt in the ProfStef tutorial - initially focusing on loops. The tutorial grabs live traffic information from the SE of the UK. Initially there is only one entry in the list viewable from their image at: http://localhost:8080/camp-smalltalk-london > > The first task was to change the code in CSLTransportInfo>>renderPage: to loop over the results and pass them to a custom renderer. Note we wanted to pass-on the joy of developing a web app in Smalltalk - the liveliness of the environment, code editing in the debugger etc - without first having to learn Seaside. So we hid the Seaside code behind some custom renderers. > > The second task was the change the renderer in CSLTransportInfo>>modelRenderer to be a CSLListItemRenderer. The task here was to notice the signature of the addItem method had changed and use the inspector and the browser to discover the relevant accessors on the result items. > > Finally they changed the renderer again for a CSLMapRenderer and went through a similar routine to step two, though this time the result of their labours was to transform a boring list into an impressive map - graphically showing traffic incidents. > > Those who were more advanced could then filter the results to look at say only incidents along particular roads etc. > > The tutorial session seemed to be well received. I don't know if anyone out there is planning to run an introduction to Smalltalk - if so they are more than welcome to use the code. > > All feedback gratefully received. > > Nick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About overlapping packages :(

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I would go for first mirroring categories. Like this, Monticello would still work as expected, and we can just focus on improving the image based tools/concepts. I know this is why I'm doing it slowly and with some pain... :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 1 Aug 2010, at 22:02, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> >>> Stef, >>> >>> Are you perhaps running into problems with mapping category names to packages? The Dolphin approach to that is to avoid the topic: just present a list of packages and make the user pick one, after which the class/method/etc. is packaged. The resulting package system might then suffer the indignity of cyclic prerequisites, but there are ways to help the user fix that. I am not saying it is the correct solution (nor suggesting that it is not) - just reporting what Object Arts did. They got so many things *really* right that I default to trusting them. >> >> This is what my implementation does. No magic matching. Just a list of classes and methods. >> Now if I do not support the * convention of packageinfo it means that we will not be able to load and save >> packages in a compatible form. We could do that and it would save me a lot of work. But people have to agree and understand the >> consequences. Of course we could do a MCPackageInfor specific loader that loads and convert MC packages. >> But this means that the packages will not be able to be used in Squeak. >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Nick Ager

> > > Where can I find those changes - my Monticello browser pointing at > squeaksource can only see up to ECompletion-lr.122 > > http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Piers Cawley

2010/8/1 Nick Ager <nick.ager(a)gmail.com>: >> Try ECompletion-lr.131, this fixes another set of bugs including the >> one you reported. > > That seems to have nailed it. I'll use it for real today and see if I spot > anything else, but so far so good. > Thanks again Where can I find those changes - my Monticello browser pointing at squeaksource can only see up to ECompletion-lr.122

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CampSmalltalk London tutorial

by Alexandre Bergel

> ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon I would recommend to change the name of the configuration. From its name, I cannot figure out what it is about. Why not ConfigurationOfPharoAndSeasideTutorial Cheers, Alexandre > First some context. The beginners tutorial ran on the first day. We had 9 developers with a mixed background in Ruby/Java/C#/PHP etc. We started by going through the excellent ProfStef tutorial which we used as jump off point for frequent asides into the tools and code in Pharo. > > Next we gave them a simple exercise. You can download the code by grabbing ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon from http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository.html and executing: > > (ConfigurationOfCampSmalltalkLondon project version: '1.0') load. > > The aim was to put into practice some of the concepts they'd learnt in the ProfStef tutorial - initially focusing on loops. The tutorial grabs live traffic information from the SE of the UK. Initially there is only one entry in the list viewable from their image at: http://localhost:8080/camp-smalltalk-london > > The first task was to change the code in CSLTransportInfo>>renderPage: to loop over the results and pass them to a custom renderer. Note we wanted to pass-on the joy of developing a web app in Smalltalk - the liveliness of the environment, code editing in the debugger etc - without first having to learn Seaside. So we hid the Seaside code behind some custom renderers. > > The second task was the change the renderer in CSLTransportInfo>>modelRenderer to be a CSLListItemRenderer. The task here was to notice the signature of the addItem method had changed and use the inspector and the browser to discover the relevant accessors on the result items. > > Finally they changed the renderer again for a CSLMapRenderer and went through a similar routine to step two, though this time the result of their labours was to transform a boring list into an impressive map - graphically showing traffic incidents. > > Those who were more advanced could then filter the results to look at say only incidents along particular roads etc. > > The tutorial session seemed to be well received. I don't know if anyone out there is planning to run an introduction to Smalltalk - if so they are more than welcome to use the code. > > All feedback gratefully received. > > Nick > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 2, 2010

[Pharo-project] ProgressDisplay package released

by Ralph Boland

I recently released the first draft of my package ProgressDisplay to SqueakSource. It is like SystemProgressMorph et. al. but with a lot of bells and whistles added. It is not a suitable replacement for SystemProgressMorph though because it is too large and specific for that. SystemProgressMorph could be made a subclass of one of its classes though. It is designed largely to meet my specific needs but since it's MIT anyone may use it, steal components, or move components of it to Squeak/Pharo. It has a utility class category with useful classes for things like array permutation generation and array multiset permutation generation, numeric partitioning of a number, and a class RangeList (which I will be expanding upon later). All of these classes will be removed when the package meant to contain them is ready (not soon). There are also a number of utility methods that could be stolen or put into Squeak/Pharo proper. It probably has lots of bugs, so bug reports appreciated. Comments on its function, design, and implementation most welcome. Proposals for improvements or extensions will be considered but no promises. If you need access to make changes let me know. If Levente Uzonyi likes it but feels compelled to rewrite it completely from scratch, thats okay too. :-) ONE OF MY REASONS FOR RELEASING IT IS BECAUSE OF A BUG I COULD NOT FIX. It is supposed to be possible to turn on the ability to catch user interrupts but when this feature is turned on and an interrupt generated while the progress bar is displayed the interrupt is caught but not processed until the progress bar closes. :-( Of course the interrupt was meant to be processed immediately. If anyone can tell me how to fix this bug (or better still send me the code or add the code to the package) that would be great! Regards, Ralph Boland -- Quantum Theory cannot save us from the tyranny of a deterministic universe but it does give God something to do

Aug. 2, 2010