August 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Poll: missing libraries to support business

by Mariano Martinez Peck

It would be nice of someone can collect aaaaall these ideas, and the future ideas that derive from the different threads, and put them together somewhere. I am not sure if a issue is the best approach. I would create a wiki page where all that information is written in kind of bullet. With that, we have a big lists of projects of interest. Maybe people is interested in doing a project maybe for university, master, or maybe because it just have time. For each bullet we can also link to the thread of discussion for example. This list will be a kind of wishlist for Pharo. Hopefully someone has time to write this down... Cheers Mariano On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > - loading binary code in an existging Pharo installation. It will ease > to make very tiny Pharo application. Useful for plateform with limited > resources. > > Hilaire > > Le 10/08/2010 14:37, Stephan Eggermont a Ã©crit : > > Philippe wrote: > >> Rather than imagining what problems non-users could have I'd focus on > >> what problems existing users have. Instead of building libraries that > >> you'll have to maintain forever I'd focus in infrastructure that allows > >> users to write the libraries they need themselves. > > > >> Executive summary: > >> - HTTP(S) > >> - SqueakDBX > >> - VM/Cog/kernel/FFI/Alien > > > > - making it possible to use all the memory in my system: 64 bit. > > > > Stephan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

Try now... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements > Ah, ok. I will wait :) > > Doru > > > On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:39, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> Wait a mo, need to upload a fix for W2K theme... project hosting is >> currently read-only... >> >> Regards, Gary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gary Chambers >> To: Pharo Development >> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31 PM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements >> >> See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 >> >> Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project________… >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, > you will end up with a messy haircut." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

Only tested on the bleeding edge 1.2... Shouldn't crash though (if not on W2K theme)... Do you have a debug log available? Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements > Ah, ok. I will wait :) > > Doru > > > On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:39, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> Wait a mo, need to upload a fix for W2K theme... project hosting is >> currently read-only... >> >> Regards, Gary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Gary Chambers >> To: Pharo Development >> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31 PM >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements >> >> See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 >> >> Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project________… >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, > you will end up with a messy haircut." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Tudor Girba

Ah, ok. I will wait :) Doru On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:39, Gary Chambers wrote: > Wait a mo, need to upload a fix for W2K theme... project hosting is > currently read-only... > > Regards, Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary Chambers > To: Pharo Development > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements > > See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 > > Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) > > Regards, Gary > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project________… > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Tudor Girba

Hurray! :) Now back to reality :). I tried to load it in a 1.1, but it crashes the image. Is it supposed to work only in 1.2? Cheers, Doru On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:31, Gary Chambers wrote: > See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 > > Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) > > Regards, Gary > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading platform-specific code

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com>wrote: > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > ...did you know that Metacello let you > > handle platform specific code? > > > I'm assuming you mean [Squeak|Pharo...] platform - we're talking > [Mac|Windows...] > > > ahhh sorry....and what about conditional loading? and using spec:for or something like that? once I suggested Dale to add OS dependency to Metacello...I don't rememeber what happened. > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > Thus, you can define this in the ConfigurationOFfExternalWebBrowser, and > > not > > depend on a class side initialize. > > > Yes, it all started when I decided to move the load out of the > class>>initialization and into the Config, and I just wanted to poll to see > if my thinking was correct. > > > Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > > I think I don't fully understand what you mean with "lazily load" and > > "required for other platforms". But if it is just a choice when to load > > something then I would do while having a internet connection ;) > > > Yes, that is the choice, and that answers the question. Thanks. > > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Loading-platform-specific-code-tp2318610p2319751.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

Wait a mo, need to upload a fix for W2K theme... project hosting is currently read-only... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Chambers To: Pharo Development Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) Regards, Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 10, 2010

[Pharo-project] Polymorph enhancements

by Gary Chambers

See: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2777 Mostly since Doru expressed an interest in closable tabs... ;-) Regards, Gary

Aug. 10, 2010

[Pharo-project] Change set fileout

by Gary Chambers

Has anyone else noticed that, very recently, when filing out change sets from the change sorter the filename is rather odd (at least on Windows)? Instead of the expected "OngoingFixes.2.cs" I'm getting "C##Users#Gazza#Desktop#Pharo#Contents#Resources#OngoingFixes.2.cs" saved where expected (in Contents\Resources). Regards, Gary

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] 10 year old slides "Stable Squeak"

by Philippe Marschall

On 08/10/2010 08:54 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> On 08/09/2010 05:16 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 9, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote: >>> >>>> On 08/09/2010 09:50 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>>>> ... while slowly improving the archive of ESUG, I found these 10 year old slides: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/stable-squeak-world-tour >>>> >>>> Could you post them directly? I don't have flash on this computer. >>>> >>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/stable-squeak-world-tour/download >>> >>> Does that work? >> >> Nope, I have to register. >> >> What's wrong with just putting a PDF available for download over FTP or >> HTTP? > > > I just uploaded the file and thought it would be interesting from today's perspective. > As I just uploade the stuff to slideshare, it was easy to pushlish the link. > > But this is now not that important... if I would have known that it's not that easy to view, > I would not have send the link in the first place. > > The idea is to have the ESUG archive available in more than just slideshare... but everything > takes time and I can do things only step by step. And the step right now is slideshare. > > Doing *anything* with an archive of 14 years of confrences takes a looong time.... > > There is an old html version here: > > http://esug.org/oldsrv/summerschools/2000_Southampton/stableSqueak/stableSq… Thank you, that works very well. Cheers Philippe

Aug. 10, 2010