August 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Instantiating an abstract class

by Lukas Renggli

Yes please don't add that. It is alreday pain enough to get complicated objects setup in the right oder with the #initialize always being called (ok it is easy to work around and in many cases it is just fine, but you need to be aware of it). Lukas On Wednesday, August 11, 2010, Stanislav Paskalev <kshorg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > And it will also require modifying the Pharo by Example book that says > that there's nothing wrong with instantiating abstract classes and > that there is no *abstract* class marker in this sense, only abstract > methods. > > So, why would try to convert Pharo to another language ? > > Stanislav Paskalev > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Just wondering. What about redefining new into: >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Behavior>>new >> Â Â Â Â "Answer a new initialized instance of the receiver (which is a class) with no indexable variables. Fail if the class is indexable." >> Â Â Â Â self isAbstractClass ifTrue: [ self error: 'An abstract class cannot be instantiated' ]. >> Â Â Â Â ^ self basicNew initialize >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >> This may break a lot of code however. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Instantiating an abstract class

by Stanislav Paskalev

And it will also require modifying the Pharo by Example book that says that there's nothing wrong with instantiating abstract classes and that there is no *abstract* class marker in this sense, only abstract methods. So, why would try to convert Pharo to another language ? Stanislav Paskalev On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Hi! > > Just wondering. What about redefining new into: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Behavior>>new > Â Â Â Â "Answer a new initialized instance of the receiver (which is a class) with no indexable variables. Fail if the class is indexable." > Â Â Â Â self isAbstractClass ifTrue: [ self error: 'An abstract class cannot be instantiated' ]. > Â Â Â Â ^ self basicNew initialize > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > This may break a lot of code however. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 11, 2010

[Pharo-project] Instantiating an abstract class

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Just wondering. What about redefining new into: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Behavior>>new "Answer a new initialized instance of the receiver (which is a class) with no indexable variables. Fail if the class is indexable." self isAbstractClass ifTrue: [ self error: 'An abstract class cannot be instantiated' ]. ^ self basicNew initialize -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This may break a lot of code however. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by laurent laffont

+1 to pictures in website. Laurent 2010/8/11 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > +1 to pictures in website > -1 to facebook. I really have social netwroks and I won't subscribe. Maybe > it is just me, buy maybe there are more > > But I really agree it is cool to have other's face. It was funny in ESUG or > London Camp Smalltalk to recognize people you receive millions of mail but > you didn't know evne his face hahhaha > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < > hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> No, it forces you to get in this things. >> >> Hilaire >> >> Le 11/08/2010 13:27, Adrian Lienhard a Ã©crit : >> > Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? >> > >> > Adrian >> > >> > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> > >> >> Hi guys >> >> >> >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >> >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that >> fun to talk daily with people >> >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo >> fun community. >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

+1 to pictures in website -1 to facebook. I really have social netwroks and I won't subscribe. Maybe it is just me, buy maybe there are more But I really agree it is cool to have other's face. It was funny in ESUG or London Camp Smalltalk to recognize people you receive millions of mail but you didn't know evne his face hahhaha On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No, it forces you to get in this things. > > Hilaire > > Le 11/08/2010 13:27, Adrian Lienhard a Ã©crit : > > Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? > > > > Adrian > > > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> Hi guys > >> > >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that > fun to talk daily with people > >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo > fun community. > >> Let me know what you think. > >> > >> Stef > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by Norbert Hartl

I just left facebook and I'm not willing to get into this again. Norbert On 11.08.2010, at 13:27, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? > > Adrian > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that fun to talk daily with people >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo fun community. >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by Hilaire Fernandes

No, it forces you to get in this things. Hilaire Le 11/08/2010 13:27, Adrian Lienhard a Ã©crit : > Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? > > Adrian > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that fun to talk daily with people >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo fun community. >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

Indeed: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103975957018 Only 26 members at the moment, surely we can do better ;-) -- Cheers, Peter On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? > > Adrian > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi guys > > > > the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > > but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that > fun to talk daily with people > > when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo > fun community. > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little pictures of you :)

by Adrian Lienhard

Wouldn't Facebook do exactly this? Adrian On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that fun to talk daily with people > when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo fun community. > Let me know what you think. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 11, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12088

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12088 ----- - Issue 2683: new slice package should get inbox by default as repository. Thanks Carlo Teixeira. - Issue 2754: DateAndTime instance creation from a string or stream sets offset to 0. Thanks Sean De Nigris. - DateAndTime instance creation from strings and streams default to local offset if none is specified (e.g. via class >>readFrom: and class>>fromString:). - DateAndTime tests updated - testReadFromSecond renamed to testPrintStringSecond - added tests for the default offset condition described above - added test of class>>fromString: - Issue 2782: Monticello UI does not make newly added slice or package the selected package. Thanks Carlo Teixeira - Issue 2783: Bitmap>>compressGZip unused. - Issue 2784: More uppercase menues for file service menues. Gorgeous and dead simple but needed. Thanks Torsten Bergmann. Thanks guys! Stef

Aug. 11, 2010