August 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] How do take action before a morph closes

by Henrik Johansen

On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:01 57AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > Another important feature would be to automatically save the mask rather than expecting the user to do that explicitly. How can I detect that the morph/panel is about to close and execute a command? If I wanted to do so, how could I detect that the mask has not been saved, and warn the user and/or veto closing the morph? For now I would be happy to just save the mask, but stopping something from closing will eventually arise. > > Bill Take a look at SystemWindow >> delete, there are plenty of hooks. Implementing #okToClose on your windows' model in terms of checking for/ saving changes to the mask would probably be what you want. As for detecting changes, if all masks are in the same format, and you don't plan on doing this for masks > 2000@2000 interactively, a simple "aForm bits = anotherForm bits" would probably perfom well enough.

Aug. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] Edit CollaboActive Pharo book

by Serge Stinckwich

Could i have one login/passwd to edit the CollaboActive Pharo book, i found several errors ;-) -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 07:58 , laurent laffont wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Serge Stinckwich < > > serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. > >> > >> > > The page is "Contributors", not "Big contributors" :) I wonder if I > should > > change it to "Contributors & Users". Users are really important because > it > > shows Pharo is used in real world. > > > > One of the first question when I show Pharo is: who use it ? It seems > people > > don't care if it's good or not. Knowing that there's users bring > confidence. > > Yes, but for the users we have the success stories page. I would separate > the two. I suggest to move the contributors page with pictures from About to > Community and only list contributors but not users. About users of Pharo I > want to know the company (btw, there's bombardier.com in the list now!) > and if possible what they do, but I don't need to know how these people look > like. Seeing the face of somebody is interesting if we discuss and work > together. > > OK. So I keep it as it is. If you talk with advertisement/media staff, showing what users look like is *really* important :) Laurent > Adrian > > > > > Laurent > > > > > >> Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their > >> pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. > >> Regards > >> > >> 2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > >>> Hi, > >>> I've started a Contributors > >>> page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. > >>> Tell me if you like it or not before going further. > >>> If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at > >> least) > >>> and links, short text you want to put here. > >>> Cheers, > >>> Laurent Laffont > >>> > >>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > >>> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi guys > >>>> > >>>> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > >>>> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that > >> fun > >>>> to talk daily with people > >>>> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a > pharo > >>>> fun community. > >>>> Let me know what you think. > >>>> > >>>> Stef > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Serge Stinckwich > >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gravatar and Website (was little pictures of you )

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > > How can I embed Gravatar profiles > > into http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors ? > > This is quite easy. If you just want to add the images, you have to > calculate the md5 hash of the email adress and add a parameter in the > URL for the size of the picture. > http://fr.gravatar.com/site/implement/images/ > If you want to add also the profile, look here: > http://fr.gravatar.com/site/implement/profiles/ Thank you. I will have a look. Hey !!!! No Smalltalk code sample http://fr.gravatar.com/site/implement/ Laurent > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by Adrian Lienhard

On Aug 13, 2010, at 07:58 , laurent laffont wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Serge Stinckwich < > serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. >> >> > The page is "Contributors", not "Big contributors" :) I wonder if I should > change it to "Contributors & Users". Users are really important because it > shows Pharo is used in real world. > > One of the first question when I show Pharo is: who use it ? It seems people > don't care if it's good or not. Knowing that there's users bring confidence. Yes, but for the users we have the success stories page. I would separate the two. I suggest to move the contributors page with pictures from About to Community and only list contributors but not users. About users of Pharo I want to know the company (btw, there's bombardier.com in the list now!) and if possible what they do, but I don't need to know how these people look like. Seeing the face of somebody is interesting if we discuss and work together. Adrian > > Laurent > > >> Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their >> pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. >> Regards >> >> 2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: >>> Hi, >>> I've started a Contributors >>> page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. >>> Tell me if you like it or not before going further. >>> If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at >> least) >>> and links, short text you want to put here. >>> Cheers, >>> Laurent Laffont >>> >>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >>> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >>>> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that >> fun >>>> to talk daily with people >>>> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo >>>> fun community. >>>> Let me know what you think. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gravatar and Website (was little pictures of you )

by Serge Stinckwich

2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > How can I embed Gravatar profiles > intoÂ http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors ? This is quite easy. If you just want to add the images, you have to calculate the md5 hash of the email adress and add a parameter in the URL for the size of the picture. http://fr.gravatar.com/site/implement/images/ If you want to add also the profile, look here: http://fr.gravatar.com/site/implement/profiles/ -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A little of documentation?

by laurent laffont

Thank you, it's important. I've added ProfStef description. Cheers, Laurent 2010/8/12 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> > Well I improved it a little more. I have expanded the categories and > provided Gofer Scripts for pharo 1.0 and pharo 1.1. > Next step is to document some tools that are not in the dev image (Pier, > mondrian, Squeakdbx...). I'll appreciate any help :). > > > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools/?_s=CAiNcfg… > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Guillermo Polito < > guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi! I've just written this in some free minutes at work :P : >> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/table-of-contents/PharoTools/?_s=V-EPbS3… >> >> But I want to improve it a little more, like add the status for the tool >> for each pharo version, a brief description of what it does or contains, and >> whatever that is useful. So, could you throw me some info or links or >> something that helps? >> >> Next step for me is inspect the metacello configurations to create gofer >> scripts for each pharo version. >> >> Here's the list I made. Feel free to add things to the lists, comments... >> >> - OmniBrowser >> - AutomaticMethodCategorizer >> - ScriptManager >> - Shout >> - OCompletion >> - PharoNonCorePackages >> - NewInspector >> - RefactoringBrowser >> - Nile >> - ProfStef >> - Metacello >> >> >> Cheers, >> Guille >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] Gravatar and Website (was little pictures of you )

by laurent laffont

How can I embed Gravatar profiles into http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors ? Laurent On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:50 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://en.gravatar.com/germanarduino > > 2010/8/12 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro(a)diaztrepat.name>: > > http://en.gravatar.com/ramirodt > > > > > > > > 2010/8/12 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> I'm tired of creating accounts everywhere :( > >> Laurent > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Serge Stinckwich > >> <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> 2010/8/12 Peter Hugosson-Miller <oldmanlink(a)gmail.com>: > >>> > Looks simple enough :-) > >>> > > >>> > http://gravatar.com/oldmanlink > >>> > >>> Cool ! > >>> > >>> What is interesting is that they provide an API to include the images > >>> in a website. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Serge Stinckwich > >>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > >>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Serge Stinckwich < serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. > > The page is "Contributors", not "Big contributors" :) I wonder if I should change it to "Contributors & Users". Users are really important because it shows Pharo is used in real world. One of the first question when I show Pharo is: who use it ? It seems people don't care if it's good or not. Knowing that there's users bring confidence. Laurent > Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their > pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. > Regards > > 2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi, > > I've started a Contributors > > page http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. > > Tell me if you like it or not before going further. > > If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at > least) > > and links, short text you want to put here. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> > >> Hi guys > >> > >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) > >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that > fun > >> to talk daily with people > >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo > >> fun community. > >> Let me know what you think. > >> > >> Stef > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Contributors page (was little pictures of you)

by Serge Stinckwich

Nice ! But you know i'm not a big contributor to Pharo. Maybe for people who have a Gravatar account, you can use their pictures, so people have control on their own pictures. Regards 2010/8/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > I've started a Contributors > pageÂ http://pharo-project.org/about/contributors. > Tell me if you like it or not before going further. > If you want to be on this page, just send me a photo (120px wide at least) > and links, short text you want to put here. > Cheers, > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:47 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi guys >> >> the pharo web site does not support that yet :) >> but I would love to have some pictures of you because this is not that fun >> to talk daily with people >> when we do not even know their faces so we could start to build a pharo >> fun community. >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 13, 2010