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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2658 - Integration of WebClient on Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We can integrate the package right now. Then we will have to perform refactorings to slowly substitute the old by the new. So I could just add this package in 1.2 Stef > Thanks. > > A doubt that comes now to my mind (surely because I don't know very well the process of put changes on Pharo). > > The current packages of WebClient load ok, not changes needed. Only load in the order core-tests-help and http. > > How should be integrated in Pharo in these conditions (I'm talking about when no changes are needed)? I mean, not need > to create a new package. I should upload the packages currently on the WebClient account on Squeaksource? > > Any clarification about this question will be appreciated. > > Thanks. > GermÃ¡n. > > > > 2010/7/7 Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> > On 08.07.2010 00:17, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > I opened the ticket, check it at: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2658 > > Being that is my first one I'm not sure if I did all ok, please don't hesitate in correct me! :) > > The thing I don't understand is "publish in the repo PharoTaskForces", can you explain please? > > Cheers. > German. > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces' > user: '' > password: '' > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2658 - Integration of WebClient on Pharo 1.2

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/7/8 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> > Thanks. > > A doubt that comes now to my mind (surely because I don't know very well > the process of put changes on Pharo). > > The current packages of WebClient load ok, not changes needed. Only load in > the order core-tests-help and http. > > How should be integrated in Pharo in these conditions (I'm talking about > when no changes are needed)? I mean, not need > to create a new package. I should upload the packages currently on the > WebClient account on Squeaksource? > I see to options: 1) create an issue and describe with text how to load both packages and the order. 2) Load in your image those packages and prepare a Slice package with WEbClient packages as required packages. Then commit that slice to PharoInbox. For 2) notice that there is a new button "Slice" in the Monticello Browser. Cheers Mariano > > Any clarification about this question will be appreciated. > > Thanks. > GermÃ¡n. > > > > 2010/7/7 Henrik Sperre Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> > > On 08.07.2010 00:17, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> I opened the ticket, check it at: >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2658 >>> >>> Being that is my first one I'm not sure if I did all ok, please don't >>> hesitate in correct me! :) >>> >>> The thing I don't understand is "publish in the repo PharoTaskForces", >>> can you explain please? >>> >>> Cheers. >>> German. >>> >> MCHttpRepository >> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces' >> user: '' >> password: '' >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2658 - Integration of WebClient on Pharo 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

but may be this is not necessary to publish in the taskforces. Stef > > I opened the ticket, check it at: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2658 > > Being that is my first one I'm not sure if I did all ok, please don't hesitate in correct me! :) > > The thing I don't understand is "publish in the repo PharoTaskForces", can you explain please? > > > Sorry for that GermÃ¡n. There is a repository which is: http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces > > Browse it and you can notice that there are packages that may requiere work. People can work on those packages and once there is something done, then it is just integrated in Pharo. > > So...commit there, and then people can load it, and commit changes. > > I hope this helps > > mariano > > Cheers. > German. > > > > 2010/7/7 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/7/7 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> > > If you (Stef/Sven) cand give some guidelines about what do you expect and how to integrate, I can help here also. > > > Open a ticket, send email, publish in the repository PharoTaskForces so that people can start to commit there. Once you have something that works, someone just integrates it. > > Cheers > > mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] Polymorph question - vertical tabs

by Torsten Bergmann

Does polymorph also support vertical tab groups similar to: http://www.orbifold.net/default/wp-content/uploads/roundlefttab.jpg Thx T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] why "maximize" does not fills all the window in 1.1?

by Alain Plantec

Le 07/07/2010 15:02, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > Hi, > I wonder why we rollback this change... maybe is stupid, but I liked > the 1.0 behavior: when you hit maximize you fills the full world screen. > > Cheers, > Esteban Hi Esteban, there is a setting for that. Appearance/Morphic/Windows/Full screen margin Cheers Alain > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] simple point function seems strange

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I was stupid to think that the rotation did not depend on the origin and coordinate system. Stef On Jul 8, 2010, at 12:28 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > On 08.07.2010 00:26, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: >> On 08.07.2010 00:11, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> (10@20) rotateBy: #left centerAt: 0 @0 >>> returns >>> 20@ -10 >>> >>> and my math tells me that this is a rotation to the right. >>> >>> Am I correct? >>> Then why I'm wrong? screen coordinates vs. math coordinate? >>> >>> Stef >> You rotate around the center, left is compared to the center -> point vector, not the other way around. yes but >> >> Cheers, >> Henry > ... assuming you use screen coordinates of course, starting at top left :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Updating VM links for Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > - I updated the Mac VM link to point to version 4.2.5beta1U. This version > certainly also makes sense for Pharo 1.0. > Great, > - I didn't change the other links since the Windows one already points to > the proposed version (4.0.2) great > and the Unix link does not point to a specific version. > > maybe we can put in parentheses the version? something like: Unix (4.0.3.2202) or something like that? So no need to have a separate set of links if they are all the same. > I guess. I am not sure if Unix 4.0.3.2202 has FreeType compiled (for 1.0). Can someone tell us this? > > Does that make sense? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 02:59 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > > One concern: having separate download links in no way tells us what vm > someone uses with a particular version, and we can't assume that it does. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [ > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez > Peck [marianopeck(a)gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:11 PM > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Updating VM links for Pharo 1.1 > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch<mailto: > adi(a)netstyle.ch>> wrote: > > I'm a bit confused. Do we want to have a separate set of VMs or not? > > > > Yes, I vote to put them separated. > > > > Furthermore, the link to the Unix VM just goes to > http://squeakvm.org/unix/, but not to a particular version. > > > > > > As far as I know, there is not way to link to a particular version. You > can, but to a particular version/platform (for example, GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, > etc...) > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 14:09 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Serge Stinckwich < > >> serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com<mailto:serge.stinckwich@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >>> 2010/7/7 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com<mailto: > marianopeck(a)gmail.com>>: > >>>> Hi. Henry made me remember that we need to update the VMs links for > Pharo > >>>> 1.1. We are in RC4 and very very near of the stable release. Thus, I > >>> suggest > >>>> to fix this problem. > >>>> > >>>> You can see in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2646 > >>>> > >>>> Mac: > >>>> 4.2.5 > >>>> Windows: > >>>> 4.0.2 > >>>> Linux: > >>>> 4.0.3.2202 > >>>> > >>>> What I am not sure if we should put these links in a particular > section > >>> of > >>>> Pharo 1.1 or just update the current VMs links. The problem of doing > the > >>>> last one is that these VMs will be downloaded for both images: 1.0 and > >>> 1.1. > >>>> Are there problems with it ? The only thing I can image is if the vm > >>> has > >>>> FreeType compiled. > >>> > >>> Hi Mariano, > >>> > >>> maybe it's better to avoid problems by providing two distincts VMs. > >>> And if some people reports problem from 1.0, maybe you will not know > >>> wich VMs they used. > >>> > >> > >> +1. I completly agree. > >> > >> Adrian, could you do this please? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Mariano > >> > >> > >>> Regards, > >>> -- > >>> Serge Stinckwich > >>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > >>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto: > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto: > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto: > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] why "maximize" does not fills all the window in 1.1?

by Geert Claes

Carla F. Griggio wrote: > > Hahaha, good point, Wilhelm :P > > It kind of bothered me at first, but then I noticed it was more > confortable to open the World Menu, although I thought "maybe there's > another way to open the World menu where I don't need the background to be > visible". Is there? > > If not, I agree that there should be a way to do it without depending on > the background. But in the meantime, not maximizing the windows to full > screen helps. > I was thinking that a while ago as well. How about a top menu-bar like the Apple Menu like this (see screen mockup)? http://forum.world.st/file/n2281990/World_Menu.png On a side note, there's another small thing which has been bothering me is that even though I really like the Mac theme and look and feel the Red/Yellow/Green Close/Min/Max buttons don't indicate which one is which on a mouse-over so you need to know which color does what. I liked the windows button I saw in one of the Smalltalk Medicine Show video's. It still had a nice look-n-feel but the icons actually had more meaning. http://forum.world.st/file/n2281990/Better_Window_Icons.png -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/why-maximize-does-not-fills-all-the-window-in-1-1-tp2… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Updating VM links for Pharo 1.1

by Adrian Lienhard

- I updated the Mac VM link to point to version 4.2.5beta1U. This version certainly also makes sense for Pharo 1.0. - I didn't change the other links since the Windows one already points to the proposed version (4.0.2) and the Unix link does not point to a specific version. So no need to have a separate set of links if they are all the same. Does that make sense? Cheers, Adrian On Jul 8, 2010, at 02:59 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > One concern: having separate download links in no way tells us what vm someone uses with a particular version, and we can't assume that it does. > > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck [marianopeck(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:11 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Updating VM links for Pharo 1.1 > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch<mailto:adi@netstyle.ch>> wrote: > I'm a bit confused. Do we want to have a separate set of VMs or not? > > Yes, I vote to put them separated. > > Furthermore, the link to the Unix VM just goes to http://squeakvm.org/unix/, but not to a particular version. > > > As far as I know, there is not way to link to a particular version. You can, but to a particular version/platform (for example, GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, etc...) > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 14:09 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Serge Stinckwich < >> serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com<mailto:serge.stinckwich@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> 2010/7/7 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com<mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>>: >>>> Hi. Henry made me remember that we need to update the VMs links for Pharo >>>> 1.1. We are in RC4 and very very near of the stable release. Thus, I >>> suggest >>>> to fix this problem. >>>> >>>> You can see in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2646 >>>> >>>> Mac: >>>> 4.2.5 >>>> Windows: >>>> 4.0.2 >>>> Linux: >>>> 4.0.3.2202 >>>> >>>> What I am not sure if we should put these links in a particular section >>> of >>>> Pharo 1.1 or just update the current VMs links. The problem of doing the >>>> last one is that these VMs will be downloaded for both images: 1.0 and >>> 1.1. >>>> Are there problems with it ? The only thing I can image is if the vm >>> has >>>> FreeType compiled. >>> >>> Hi Mariano, >>> >>> maybe it's better to avoid problems by providing two distincts VMs. >>> And if some people reports problem from 1.0, maybe you will not know >>> wich VMs they used. >>> >> >> +1. I completly agree. >> >> Adrian, could you do this please? >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> >> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Teleplace Cog VMs are now available

by John M McIntosh

Morning all, I've pushed a number of changes into the iOS platform tree to enable you to build a Macintosh Cocoa V5 Cog VM. Well at least one that runs a few million byte codes before crashing. This also requires changes to the Cog branch, but that's part of the re-integration process. I have also built it as a Stack VM for the iPhone, that runs many more million bytecodes before tossing walkbacks on an unaltered image. Just a bit of image tinkering I think is needed there, plus a change to let complex events flow up out of the VM into the image, but again part of the re-integration process. On 2010-06-20, at 1:11 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi All, > > it gives me great pleasure to announce that the Teleplace Cog VMs are now available. ... > Eliot Miranda > June 2010 > > -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

July 8, 2010