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Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Maybe something can be done using the class comment. > > No, please don't. This kind of things are like the Monticello hack to use the category (when using *APackage) as package extensions. > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 8 Jul 2010, at 15:35, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, > > what about classes? > > > > Thx > > T. > > -- > > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharocasts: live testing

by laurent laffont

Hi, Unit tests represents the security belt of software development. But having a security belt doesn't mean it's always fastened. You take a look at a piece code, have fun hacking it, submit the new code without checking all tests are green... it's easy to forgot there's tests here. Autotest automatically runs tests for you. Test Driven Development ensures test exhaustivity, reflexion on design and so on. You stop and run tests very often to check the health of your code. In your car you don't stop driving, hands off the wheel in order to check the speed. Autotest provides a real time dashboard so you don't stop coding. Testing is always here. Now you can drive. http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/live-testing-with-autotest.html Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] why "maximize" does not fills all the window in 1.1?

by Mariano Abel Coca

What would be great is not using the squeak menu inside the world, but drawing it on the system window. More like mac's, that is integrated in the global menu. In Linux there is a GlobalMenuApplet for Gnome Panels that works like mac's Global Menu, and removes the menu from the windows and merges on the pannel. It's a nice advance to a mac interface. (That and CairoDock, of course) I don't have a clue about how to do it, but dreaming is free. :) Cheers, Mariano. 2010/7/8 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> Carla F. Griggio wrote: >> > >> > Hahaha, good point, Wilhelm :P >> > >> > It kind of bothered me at first, but then I noticed it was more >> > confortable to open the World Menu, although I thought "maybe there's >> > another way to open the World menu where I don't need the background to >> be >> > visible". Is there? >> > >> > If not, I agree that there should be a way to do it without depending on >> > the background. But in the meantime, not maximizing the windows to full >> > screen helps. >> > >> >> I was thinking that a while ago as well. How about a top menu-bar like >> the >> Apple Menu like this (see screen mockup)? >> >> http://forum.world.st/file/n2281990/World_Menu.png >> > > This is cool. You did it? is it working ? because we have HostMenus-Mac, > but it is only MacOS. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > >> On a side note, there's another small thing which has been bothering me is >> that even though I really like the Mac theme and look and feel the >> Red/Yellow/Green Close/Min/Max buttons don't indicate which one is which >> on >> a mouse-over so you need to know which color does what. I liked the >> windows >> button I saw in one of the Smalltalk Medicine Show video's. It still had >> a >> nice look-n-feel but the icons actually had more meaning. >> >> http://forum.world.st/file/n2281990/Better_Window_Icons.png >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/why-maximize-does-not-fills-all-the-window-in-1-1-tp2… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Lukas Renggli

On 8 July 2010 19:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Use a pragma to mark class pragmas. For example: foo <classAnnotation> <foo: 1 bar: 2> >> Or simply know which pragma >> selectors need to be interpreted on the class. You you make up the convention in your code that all #foo:bar: pragmas are interpreted in the context of the class. It is anyway up to you how you interpret your pragmas. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Use a pragma to mark class pragmas. Or simply know which pragma > selectors need to be interpreted on the class. what do you mean I'm confused. Can you show an example? Stef > Lukas > > On Thursday, July 8, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> May be using a class method? >> But yes this would be important. >> >> Alex if we use comment we would have to parse them and this is not good. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, >>> what about classes? >>> >>> Thx >>> T. >>> -- >>> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >>> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Guillermo Polito

Why not add an extension to the #subclass: method family like Object subclass: #AppRegistry instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' pragmas: '<pragma1> <pragma2>' category: 'System-Applications' ? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > > May be using a class method? > > But yes this would be important. > > The initialize method of the metaclass maybe. > > Alexandre > > > > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, > >> what about classes? > >> > >> Thx > >> T. > >> -- > >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [SPAM] should we move pharo to use webclient?

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

2010/7/8 Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)netcetera.ch> > On 07/06/2010 03:04 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > Yes!! > > > > It now loads without patches into Pharo 1.1 rc2 > > I used its client and server part, seaside adaptor, it all works. > > The last time I checked multipart POSTs (file uploads) were missing. > I responded to your same comment on June 28 :)

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Alexandre Bergel

> May be using a class method? > But yes this would be important. The initialize method of the metaclass maybe. Alexandre > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, >> what about classes? >> >> Thx >> T. >> -- >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Eliot Miranda

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Use a pragma to mark class pragmas. Or simply know which pragma > selectors need to be interpreted on the class. > [I know Lukas knows this but I'll say it anyway]. Do the former. The latter is weak. It means two unrelated packages wanting to add a class pragma end up colliding. Using a pragma to mark the class pragma allows choosing an arbitrary selector and hence makes it easy to avoid the collision. > > Lukas > > On Thursday, July 8, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > May be using a class method? > > But yes this would be important. > > > > Alex if we use comment we would have to parse them and this is not good. > > > > Stef > > > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, > >> what about classes? > >> > >> Thx > >> T. > >> -- > >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pragmas/Annotations for classes

by Lukas Renggli

Use a pragma to mark class pragmas. Or simply know which pragma selectors need to be interpreted on the class. Lukas On Thursday, July 8, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > May be using a class method? > But yes this would be important. > > Alex if we use comment we would have to parse them and this is not good. > > Stef > > On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> while it is possible to annotate methods using Pragmas, >> what about classes? >> >> Thx >> T. >> -- >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 8, 2010