July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Evaluation of Pharo for Commercial Project

by Torsten Bergmann

>We are used to VisualAge and VisualWorks, which clearly shows the >structure of packages in the browser Do you know O2 browser for Pharo? It's an additional browser that shows the packages similar to VW. See [1] and ask on the pharo list to get the right version for your image. >We are uncertain how packages are made and how they show up in Monticello. Monticello is simple - an MCZ is just a ZIP including the code. Monticello (ab)uses class/method categories to find out which package the code belongs to. Packaging is simple: in short if you create a package "MyApp" in Monticello any class that is in a class category that starts with "MyApp" will be in this package. Example: a) class "MyClass" in class category "MyApp-Core" and b) class "MyModelClass" in class category "MyApp-Core-Model" and c) class "MyTestCase" in class category "MyApp-Tests" 1. When you create a Monticello package (in the Monticello browser) called "MyApp" automatically all three classes (core and tests) are then into this simple package (click on "Browse" to verify) 2. If you want core and tests in separate packages you create two packages "MyApp-Core" (automatically including a and b) and "MyApp-Tests" with c. Method extensions: If you put a method in a category with a leading star and your package name it gets included too. So if you put a method #foo on String into the method category "*myapp-core" it is a method extension on String packaged in "MyApp-Core" package. If you have well named packages this works good and even works in the large. Typically packages are stored in repositories (www.squeaksource.com repo server, local (shared) directories, FTP, ...) Read the http://pharobyexample.org/ book to get more info on Monticello. Also check out http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > Since we are unable to organize our code in packages, controlling and > verifying dependencies between them is hard. This is adressed using METACELLO (which manages Monticello packages) - think of Monticello to provide packages and Metacello as configurations to manage which package (version) depends on which other package (version) You just describe baselines (structure and dependencies) and versions that fit together in a class/package called "ConfigurationOfMyApp". See [2] and [3] and the ProfStef teacher workspace that comes with Pharo to learn more. If stuck just ask. Namespace support and better Breakpoint support will (hopefully) adressed in the near future. Also better packaging. Bye T. [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-January/020475.ht… [2] http://code.google.com/p/metacello/ [3] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27018/Monticello.pdf -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] VM more flexible for research?

by Alexandre Bergel

This is a recurrent wish. I have seen many post on this. I remember LexSpoon wanted a read-only bit in the header... Cheers, Alexandre On 15 Jul 2010, at 15:30, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. I am a newbie for both research and VM. However, in the little time I have been working on this, I always need some extra bits in the object header to do some experiments. > And the problem is that I always have only one :( > > So I come to the idea of having a more flexible VM for the people that want to experiment with it. > > The first idea was to remove compact classes. But of course, there may be much more ideas or things to do. > > What do you think? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] material for thought

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Lessons learned by the seaside lead! from http://blog.fitzell.ca/2010/07/seaside-3-release-candidate.html â¢ When your wonderful, dedicated users start putting your code into production, they're telling you it's ready to be released. Listen to them. â¢ We don't have the manpower to carry out the kind of QA process that goes along with an Development, Alpha, Beta, RC, Final release process. â¢ We need to figure out how to get more users actively involved in the project. This could be by writing code but probably more importantly by writing documentation, improving usability, building releases, managing the website, doing graphical design, or something else entirely. The small core team simply can't handle it all. I think that the point three concern .... you :) If you want really pharo to be a success you should from time to time step back from your keyboard and think about the little actions that you can do to make pharo better and we all can do something. Stef

July 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] VM more flexible for research?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. I am a newbie for both research and VM. However, in the little time I have been working on this, I always need some extra bits in the object header to do some experiments. And the problem is that I always have only one :( So I come to the idea of having a more flexible VM for the people that want to experiment with it. The first idea was to remove compact classes. But of course, there may be much more ideas or things to do. What do you think? Cheers Mariano

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by laurent laffont

2010/7/15 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> > Thnaks for the tips. > I feel like a newbie :) > Can you record (screencast) yourself doing it (if you have time and know how to record a screencast http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-i-record-screencasts-for-pharoca…) that's a good simple example for pharocasts. - create the config using ProfStef - upload it on MetacelloRepository. Just send me the rush. If you make mistakes don't be scared, I can cut it later and I will add subtitles. Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > Nicolas > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > >> > >> > In Pharo 1.1, just clic on WorldMenu > Help > ProfStef Browser and >> execute Metacello Tutorial step by step: modify the code & evaluate. I >> always do like this now (quick). >> >> Cool! >> >> Alexandre >> >> > >> > Laurent. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alexandre >> > >> > >> > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Alex: >> > > >> > > I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, >> > > being that is really very simple. >> > > >> > > On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread >> > > "About Configurations". >> > > >> > > Cheers. >> > > GermÃ¡n. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> > >>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) >> > >> >> > >> Hi GermÃ¡n, >> > >> >> > >> Do you have a configuration for this? >> > >> Thanks for the documentation >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Alexandre >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> > >>>> start small :) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> > >>>>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> took me less than 7 minutes >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not >> take any possibility to build it incrementally >> > >>>>>> Stef >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >>>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about >> how to >> > >>>>> use each tool..... >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >>>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Pharo-project mailing list >> > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > ================================================= >> > > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino >> > > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com >> > > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com >> > > ================================================= >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pharo-project mailing list >> > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > -- >> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Alexandre Bergel

> > In Pharo 1.1, just clic on WorldMenu > Help > ProfStef Browser and execute Metacello Tutorial step by step: modify the code & evaluate. I always do like this now (quick). Cool! Alexandre > > Laurent. > > > > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > > Hi Alex: > > > > I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, > > being that is really very simple. > > > > On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread > > "About Configurations". > > > > Cheers. > > GermÃ¡n. > > > > > > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > >>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) > >> > >> Hi GermÃ¡n, > >> > >> Do you have a configuration for this? > >> Thanks for the documentation > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> > >>> > >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >>>> start small :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >>>>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> took me less than 7 minutes > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not take any possibility to build it incrementally > >>>>>> Stef > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about how to > >>>>> use each tool..... > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ================================================= > > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > > ================================================= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Nicolas Cellier

Thnaks for the tips. I feel like a newbie :) Nicolas 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > > > > In Pharo 1.1, just clic on WorldMenu > Help > ProfStef Browser and > execute Metacello Tutorial step by step: modify the code & evaluate. I > always do like this now (quick). > > Cool! > > Alexandre > > > > > Laurent. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > > > > Hi Alex: > > > > > > I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, > > > being that is really very simple. > > > > > > On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread > > > "About Configurations". > > > > > > Cheers. > > > GermÃ¡n. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > > >>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) > > >> > > >> Hi GermÃ¡n, > > >> > > >> Do you have a configuration for this? > > >> Thanks for the documentation > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Alexandre > > >> > > >>> > > >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > >>>> start small :) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > >>>>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> took me less than 7 minutes > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not take > any possibility to build it incrementally > > >>>>>> Stef > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about how > to > > >>>>> use each tool..... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > >> -- > > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ================================================= > > > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > > > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > > > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > > > ================================================= > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Hi GermÃ¡n, > > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they are > indispensable to manage dependencies. > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency I > will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. > > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. > In Pharo 1.1, just clic on WorldMenu > Help > ProfStef Browser and execute Metacello Tutorial step by step: modify the code & evaluate. I always do like this now (quick). Laurent. > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > > Hi Alex: > > > > I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, > > being that is really very simple. > > > > On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread > > "About Configurations". > > > > Cheers. > > GermÃ¡n. > > > > > > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > >>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) > >> > >> Hi GermÃ¡n, > >> > >> Do you have a configuration for this? > >> Thanks for the documentation > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> > >>> > >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >>>> start small :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >>>>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> took me less than 7 minutes > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not take > any possibility to build it incrementally > >>>>>> Stef > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about how > to > >>>>> use each tool..... > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ================================================= > > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > > ================================================= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi GermÃ¡n, Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they are indispensable to manage dependencies. Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency I will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. Cheers, Alexandre On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Hi Alex: > > I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, > being that is really very simple. > > On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread > "About Configurations". > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. > > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) >> >> Hi GermÃ¡n, >> >> Do you have a configuration for this? >> Thanks for the documentation >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >>> >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> start small :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ >>>>>> >>>>>> took me less than 7 minutes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not take any possibility to build it incrementally >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about how to >>>>> use each tool..... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent! On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:30 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) > > 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> start small :) >> >> >> On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:01 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> 2010/7/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> http://book.pharo-project.org/book/LoggingTools/ >>>> >>>> took me less than 7 minutes >>>> >>>> >>>> We should not cry that there is no documentation if we do not take any possibility to build it incrementally >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, I understood that you wanted a detailed explanation about how to >>> use each tool..... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 15, 2010