July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling

by Larry Gadallah

Hi all: I am a noob searching for an example of how to demarshall a set of simple and complex XML nodes into an object using Pastell or something similar. I have found many examples of how to pick out all of the elements of a certain type into a collection, but I'm trying to grab the data from a mixed collection of (~20) elements that are children of a particular element type and unpack them into an object. Does anyone know of some good examples of how to do this using Pastell or something similar? Thanks, -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/W7Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â lgadallah AT gmail DOT com PGP Sig: 917E DDB7 C911 9EC1 0CD9Â C06B 06C4 835F 0BB8 7336

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Ramon Leon

On 7/16/2010 4:22 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Not, I'm talking about a particular context. I needed a simple logging > of text on a text file and don't wanted to invest the time to > understand the whole thing behind the logger of K. > > GermÃ¡n. I hear you, I like simple as well; I setup a syslog/syslog-ng server and let Linux worry about it. Here's my logger... SysLog>>sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText [ self sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText toServer: (SSConfig at: #sysLogServer) ] on: Error do: [] SysLog>>sendPriority: aPriority body: aBody toServer: anIPAddress | logServer client logHostIP | anIPAddress isEmptyOrNil ifTrue: [ ^self ]. logServer := Socket newUDP setPort: 514. [ client := Socket newUDP. [ logHostIP := ((anIPAddress split: '.') collect: [:e | e asInteger ]) asByteArray . client sendUDPData: aPriority , ' ' , aBody toHost: logHostIP port: logServer port ] ensure: [ client closeAndDestroy ] ] ensure: [ logServer closeAndDestroy ] That's about all I need from my logging package. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

July 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] [Offtopic] Self 4.4 released

by Geert Claes

Russell Allen wrote: > > Dear all, > > Forgive the off-topic email :) > > I would like to announce the release of version 4.4 of the Self > environment. > > Self is a prototype-based dynamic object-oriented programming language, > environment, and virtual machine centred around the principles of > simplicity, uniformity, concreteness, and liveness. > > Self includes a programming language, a collection of objects defined in > the Self language, and a programming environment built in Self for writing > Self programs. The language and environment attempt to present objects to > the programmer and user in as direct and physical a way as possible. The > system uses the prototype-based style of object construction. > > Self is the canonical prototype based language within the Smalltalk > family. It is open source under a BSD-like licence and includes a fast VM > and a development environment built on the original Morphic GUI that > Squeak's Morphic is a descendent of. > > Changes in release 4.4 include: > - an improved Quartz based backend for the MacOS X version and > - a working port of Self to Linux (x86); > - various bug fixes and general improvements. > > You can download Self from the website at http://selflanguage.org/ in > binary form and all sources are available either by running Self or at > http://github.com/russellallen/self/ > > Documentation includes the Self Handbook at http://docs.selflanguage.org > and a large number of published papers on Self at > http://selflanguage.org/documentation/published/ > > You can keep up to date with Self by following either the Self blog at > http://blog.selflanguage.org or joining the Self mailing list - details at > http://selflanguage.org/discuss/ and archive at > http://forum.selflanguage.org > > Yours selfishly, > > Russell > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Offtopic-Self-4-4-released-tp2291396p2291396.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Guillermo Polito

I don't have any time by now, but It would be better to have only one log tool, maybe with extensions. Not 3 different ones. There should be a way to have an integrated version that more or less suits the most people. Maybe the most simple solution is a set of adapters to make the three tools polymorphic, and a metacello conf to load them. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hehe, I'm not against Metacello, but will not write a conf to this tiny > project. > > Not by now :) > > 2010/7/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > Another advantage of using Metacello is that even if you don't have > > dependencies, it helps you to release and define stable versions. How do > you > > know which mcz should I use ? which one is the stable ? > > > > If in 3 months I download it again (the latest) in the same Pharo image, > > will it work? You cannot know it. > > > > 2010/7/16 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Alex: > >>> > >>> Yes I know how to write a configuration (I did one for Iliad) but to > >>> this case in particular I think have not sense. My logger is only one > >>> class with a few methods.....Easily you can include the class on your > >>> own project. > >> > >> Having a configuration for all tools means there's one way to load every > >> package. That means we can automate with the Hudson server and check > that > >> every package can load on Pharo. It's also easier for newbies, they can > >> start by learning only one (documented) way to load a tool. > >> That's a great strength in Ruby world, there's a gem for every lib. > >> Anyway, I can do it as it's an opportunity to record a screencast for > >> Pharocasts to show how to write a ConfigurationOfXXX and put it on > >> MetacelloRepository. (if anybody else want to do it I can help) > >> Cheers, > >> Laurent > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Cheers. > >>> GermÃ¡n. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > >>> > Hi GermÃ¡n, > >>> > > >>> > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, > they > >>> > are indispensable to manage dependencies. > >>> > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The > dependency > >>> > I will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. > >>> > > >>> > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: > >>> > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > >>> > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > Alexandre > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Hi Alex: > >>> >> > >>> >> I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not > necessary, > >>> >> being that is really very simple. > >>> >> > >>> >> On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the > thread > >>> >> "About Configurations". > >>> >> > >>> >> Cheers. > >>> >> GermÃ¡n. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > >>> >>>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' > :) > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Hi GermÃ¡n, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Do you have a configuration for this? > >>> >>> Thanks for the documentation > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Cheers, > >>> >>> Alexandre > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

hehe, I'm not against Metacello, but will not write a conf to this tiny project. Not by now :) 2010/7/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Another advantage of using Metacello is that even if you don't have > dependencies, it helps you to release and define stable versions. How do you > know which mcz should I use ? which one is the stable ? > > If in 3 months I download it again (the latest) in the same Pharo image, > will it work?Â You cannot know it. > > 2010/7/16 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Alex: >>> >>> Yes I know how to write a configuration (I did one for Iliad) but to >>> this case in particular I think have not sense. My logger is only one >>> class with a few methods.....Easily you can include the class on your >>> own project. >> >> Having a configuration for all tools means there's one way to load every >> package. That means we can automate with the Hudson server and check that >> every package can load on Pharo. It's also easier for newbies, they can >> start by learning only one (documented) way to load a tool. >> That's a great strength in Ruby world, there's a gem for every lib. >> Anyway, I can do it as it's an opportunity to record a screencast for >> Pharocasts to show how to write a ConfigurationOfXXX and put it on >> MetacelloRepository. (if anybody else want to do it I can help) >> Cheers, >> Laurent >> >> >> >>> >>> Cheers. >>> GermÃ¡n. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>> > Hi GermÃ¡n, >>> > >>> > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they >>> > are indispensable to manage dependencies. >>> > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency >>> > I will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. >>> > >>> > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: >>> > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). >>> > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Alexandre >>> > >>> > >>> > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi Alex: >>> >> >>> >> I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, >>> >> being that is really very simple. >>> >> >>> >> On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread >>> >> "About Configurations". >>> >> >>> >> Cheers. >>> >> GermÃ¡n. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>> >>>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi GermÃ¡n, >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you have a configuration for this? >>> >>> Thanks for the documentation >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Another advantage of using Metacello is that even if you don't have dependencies, it helps you to release and define stable versions. How do you know which mcz should I use ? which one is the stable ? If in 3 months I download it again (the latest) in the same Pharo image, will it work? You cannot know it. 2010/7/16 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Alex: >> >> Yes I know how to write a configuration (I did one for Iliad) but to >> this case in particular I think have not sense. My logger is only one >> class with a few methods.....Easily you can include the class on your >> own project. >> > > Having a configuration for all tools means there's one way to load every > package. That means we can automate with the Hudson server and check that > every package can load on Pharo. It's also easier for newbies, they can > start by learning only one (documented) way to load a tool. > > That's a great strength in Ruby world, there's a gem for every lib. > > Anyway, I can do it as it's an opportunity to record a screencast for > Pharocasts to show how to write a ConfigurationOfXXX and put it on > MetacelloRepository. (if anybody else want to do it I can help) > > Cheers, > > Laurent > > > > > >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> > Hi GermÃ¡n, >> > >> > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they >> are indispensable to manage dependencies. >> > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency >> I will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. >> > >> > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: >> > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). >> > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alexandre >> > >> > >> > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Alex: >> >> >> >> I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, >> >> being that is really very simple. >> >> >> >> On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread >> >> "About Configurations". >> >> >> >> Cheers. >> >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> >>>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) >> >>> >> >>> Hi GermÃ¡n, >> >>> >> >>> Do you have a configuration for this? >> >>> Thanks for the documentation >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Alexandre >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:12 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex: > > Yes I know how to write a configuration (I did one for Iliad) but to > this case in particular I think have not sense. My logger is only one > class with a few methods.....Easily you can include the class on your > own project. > Having a configuration for all tools means there's one way to load every package. That means we can automate with the Hudson server and check that every package can load on Pharo. It's also easier for newbies, they can start by learning only one (documented) way to load a tool. That's a great strength in Ruby world, there's a gem for every lib. Anyway, I can do it as it's an opportunity to record a screencast for Pharocasts to show how to write a ConfigurationOfXXX and put it on MetacelloRepository. (if anybody else want to do it I can help) Cheers, Laurent > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. > > > > 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > > Hi GermÃ¡n, > > > > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they > are indispensable to manage dependencies. > > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency I > will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. > > > > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: > > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > > >> Hi Alex: > >> > >> I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, > >> being that is really very simple. > >> > >> On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread > >> "About Configurations". > >> > >> Cheers. > >> GermÃ¡n. > >> > >> > >> > >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > >>>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) > >>> > >>> Hi GermÃ¡n, > >>> > >>> Do you have a configuration for this? > >>> Thanks for the documentation > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Alexandre > >>> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Hi CÃ©sar: Not, I'm talking about a particular context. I needed a simple logging of text on a text file and don't wanted to invest the time to understand the whole thing behind the logger of K. I found more easy write my own class (only a few minutes) and I have the thing I need. In my 25 years developing software (starting on old mainframes) I frequentlly found myself writing my own tools, instead of use other complex ones. I'm not talking about this case of logger in particular, but I'm sure you and all of us, invested lot of time searching a tool that make "aproximately" what we need now, but, almost allways the tool don't do "exactly" what we need. At this point, the loss of time begins (in my pov). I tend to use and develop the more simple things I can to solve the specific need, this is my style of work and I think that is the way to have a best use of the time. GermÃ¡n. 2010/7/15 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br>: > GermÃ¡n, > > The e-mail you mention is about three pages of plain text and seems to be issued in lieu of documentation for the piece of software. > > Are you suggesting anything such size is not worth writing for documenting the use of SW released for Pharo!? > > > > Em 14/07/2010 08:37, GermÃ¡n Arduino < garduino(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > Hi Mariano: > > Yes, I know both but honestly wanted something very simple.....May be > I'm too lazy but can't afford to read a mail of this extension: > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/132923… > :) > > Toothpick look better (to my needs) but still wanted something more simple. > > GermÃ¡n. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Hi Alex: Yes I know how to write a configuration (I did one for Iliad) but to this case in particular I think have not sense. My logger is only one class with a few methods.....Easily you can include the class on your own project. Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > Hi GermÃ¡n, > > Configuration may be a bit tricky to write time to time. However, they are indispensable to manage dependencies. > Suppose I want to use your logger in one of my software. The dependency I will introduce is easier if you have a configuration. > > It takes 4,5 minutes to write one with the tutorial: > ConfigurationOfMetacello project latestVersion load: #('Tutorial'). > ProfStef goOn: MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial. > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 15 Jul 2010, at 13:45, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Hi Alex: >> >> I have not a configuration for this package, I think is not necessary, >> being that is really very simple. >> >> On squeak-dev the people is talking about these topics, on the thread >> "About Configurations". >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> >> 2010/7/15 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >>>> ok, I added the documentation of my own package......Took me 15' :) >>> >>> Hi GermÃ¡n, >>> >>> Do you have a configuration for this? >>> Thanks for the documentation >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>>>

July 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] ESUG 2010 early registration deadline is appraoching

by Noury Bouraqadi

Dear Smalltalkers, I'd like to remind you that only 2 weeks left to register at the early bird registration fee to the ESUG 2010 conference. http://registration.esug.org/ The program will be exciting as you can see from the list of talk: http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010/Talks BTW, don't forget to submit your software to the ESUG Awards by sending an email to : bouraqadi@gmail.com,luc.fabresse@mines-douai.fr More info on: http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010/Innovation+Technology+Awards See you in Barcelona, Noury http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury ---- -18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

July 16, 2010