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Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk
by Gary Chambers
No problem. I can review/help.
Regards, Gary
Sent from my iPad
On 18 Jul 2010, at 01:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London?
>
> Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, changes, Gary or Alain?
>
> Hilaire
>
> Le 18/07/2010 12:40, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit :
>> Cool keep pushing
>> We will get a smaller and nicer system.
>>
>> Stef
>> On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>
>>> It starts to take shape.
>>> Here is a note with screen shot
>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha…
>>>
>>> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge.
>>>
>>> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior.
>>>
>>> Hilaire
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
> Not, I'm not talking of propietary software.
>
> I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the
> odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this
> http://www.unixodbc.org/ ?
ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase,
then it won't help.
Levente
>
> About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life....
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tudor:
>>>
>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>
>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>>
>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>> Germán.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>>>> next?
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>>>> do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>>>>> calls
>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>>
>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>>> Data
>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>>> to
>>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Levente
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, laurent laffont wrote:
> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>
>
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tudor:
>>>
>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>>
>>
>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>>
>
> On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to
> migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding)
This looks good and probably works on a Mac too:
http://www.automatthew.com/2008/02/how-to-compile-mdbtools-on-mac-os-x.html
Levente
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Laffont
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>
>>
>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>> Germán.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>>>> next?
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>>>> do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>>>>> calls
>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>>> Data
>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>>> to
>>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Levente
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>> "When people care, great things can happen."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by laurent laffont
2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
> Hi Tudor:
>>
>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>
>
> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>
On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to
migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding)
Cheers,
Laurent Laffont
>
>
> Levente
>
>
>
>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germán.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>
>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>>> next?
>>>>
>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>>> do that?
>>>>
>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>>>> calls
>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>>
>>>
>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>> Data
>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>> to
>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>
>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>
>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Levente
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "When people care, great things can happen."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Germán Arduino
Not, I'm not talking of propietary software.
I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the
odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this
http://www.unixodbc.org/ ?
About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life....
Cheers.
2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
>> Hi Tudor:
>>
>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>
> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germán.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>
>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>>> next?
>>>>
>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>>> do that?
>>>>
>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>>>> calls
>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>
>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>> Data
>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>> to
>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>
>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>
>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Levente
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Alexandre Bergel
No idea about that. But let us know if you succeed.
Good luck,
Alexandre
On 17 Jul 2010, at 23:35, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>
> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> --
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>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)
by Alexandre Bergel
> #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance.
I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the ''
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the pointers.
>
> Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac?
Sure: http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php
Note that I have no experience with it, but there's a trial version.
Levente
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tudor:
>>>
>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>>
>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver
>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>>
>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>> Germán.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>>>> next?
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>>>> do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C
>>>>> calls
>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>>
>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC
>>>> Data
>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection
>>>> to
>>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Levente
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Doru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Tudor Girba
Hi,
Thanks for the pointers.
Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac?
Cheers,
Doru
On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
>> Hi Tudor:
>>
>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
>
> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a
> driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germán.
>>
>>
>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>>
>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I
>>>> should do
>>>> next?
>>>>
>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how
>>>> would I
>>>> do that?
>>>>
>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the
>>>> C calls
>>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>>
>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an
>>> ODBC Data
>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a
>>> connection to
>>> that datasource from your image.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>>
>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>>
>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from
>>>>> Pharo?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Levente
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to
>>>>> know her."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> project
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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July 18, 2010
Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases
by Levente Uzonyi
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Germán Arduino wrote:
> Hi Tudor:
>
> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC
> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also).
I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a
driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But
there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested.
Levente
>
> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
>
> Cheers.
> Germán.
>
>
> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>:
>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mariano!
>>>
>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well.
>>>
>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do
>>> next?
>>>
>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I
>>> do that?
>>>
>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls
>>> from ODBCLibrary going?
>>
>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data
>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to
>> that datasource from your image.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I tried loading it, but I get :
>>>> "This package depends on the following classes:
>>>> ExternalLibrary
>>>> ExternalStructure"
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from?
>>>>
>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;)
>>>>
>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work.
>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere...
>>>>
>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the
>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Mariano
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, with ODBC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>
>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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