July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [Survey] Assess the cycles in your software

by Laval Jannik

Hi Pharoers, and Smalltalkers in general, Have you seen waited to assess the cycles in your software? Now you can :) We request some of you to perform an experiment using DSM to see your software package structure and to fix cycles between packages. Our tool shows dependencies between packages and highlight some bad dependencies generating structure cycles. It also helps to understand dependencies. Your goal is to fill a survey using our tool. I prepared a mini-tutorial about DSM and eDSM. It can help you to understand the visualization tool. To ease the use of our tool, I loaded it in a PharoCore1.2. And there are two archives available: - the first contains an image with our tool with a model of Pharo loaded in it, so you can play with our tool on pharo itself. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithPharo.zip. Pay attention, the image is slow. - the second contains the same thing without the model of Pharo. Here, you have to load your code, then populate a moose model and use the tool. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithoutPharo.zip The two archives contain the tutorial and the survey. If you are a pharo integrator, we suggest you to take the one with Pharo model loaded, else the other. To use our tool, load your tool in Pharo. Then do "MoosePanel open", and import your software in Moose by "import from Smalltalk image". When it is imported, select your project in the list on the left of MoosePanel, and select "all model packages" on the list on center. Then, you have two choices: - you can scan all your project: right click on "all model packages" and do DSM. - or select "all model packages" then select some packages in the next list and right click, do DSM. After that, you can perform the survey (with reading of the tutorial). We need your answers for the end of August. So, you have two months to do it. If you have any question, just let me know. Best regards, Jannik. --- Jannik Laval PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://rmod.lille.inria.fr ---

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by Lukas Renggli

Also the new/broken behavior of the Monticello Browser that screws up the ancestry when the username/password is wrong is a showstopper. Lukas On 19 July 2010 00:00, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > HI guys > > I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. > > So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Lukas Renggli

The new one-click image is based on the Pharo-Dev images. Various people seem to have reported issues with these images, please create bug reports (in addition to reporting them here). You can still download the images from my build server if you want. They are built on Pharo-Core 1.1, they are configured to my personal likings and I use them daily. The setting in question is definitely there. Previous one-click images were based on these images. http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifa… Lukas On 19 July 2010 08:08, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Lukas> Â Â World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> > Lukas> Smart Characters > > No such thing in the Seaside One-click image. Â Just an abbreviated > "settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters. > > Lukas> Alternatively: > > Lukas> Â Â ECPreferences smartCharacters: false > > I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real > preferences browser. > > It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this. Â Or maybe fortunate, > so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes > you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all > selectable. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> writes: Lukas> World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> Lukas> Smart Characters No such thing in the Seaside One-click image. Just an abbreviated "settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters. Lukas> Alternatively: Lukas> ECPreferences smartCharacters: false I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real preferences browser. It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this. Or maybe fortunate, so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all selectable. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Lukas Renggli

World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> Smart Characters Alternatively: ECPreferences smartCharacters: false On 19 July 2010 03:36, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: > > In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting > (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). > > I don't see one for Pharo. Â It appears to be stuck on. > > I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, > and my annoyance level is greatly increased. > > It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). > > Where's the preference? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Unicode everywhere

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

This is a newbie question. I really don't understand the issue with Unicode and the image/vm/os in Pharo/SqueakVM/Linux,Windows. I searched the lists for references to utf-8 and the long discussions about leadingChar encodings convert*Encoding methods Strings WideStrings Text DisplayText WAKom and WAKomEncoded keyboard input text file input/output vm's -encoding -textenc options So, the people that know about this things, can you please give a newbie explanation about this. What is needed for we users to: 1. Input text by keyboard with accents (and maybe in the language of Mordor too) and they look not like a diamond with a ? sign in the image system browser. 2. This text be correctly send to a modern web browser and rendered in utf-8 encoding correctly. 3. Upload a java messages bundle (or a file with characters outside ASCII) with a web browser posted to a Seaside application, stored temporaly in disk on the server and processed correctly (by opening it with some FileStream class) inside the image. Or is this really hard to do and I'm asking for the imposible? I understand that there are performance issues with full unicode image/vm but supposing that premature optimization rule applies here, what we need to do to achieve this (utopian maybe) goal? Why the question, because I put some strings inside the image (they look fine as I type them). Then I used them to put labels in my Seaside app. In the image I typed and saw in a code browser: BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n But the web browser (firefox) I see: Bï¿½squeda de informaciï¿½n If I change the web browser encoding to iso8859-1 I see it correctly. Now if I evaluate 'BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n' convertToEncoding: 'utf-8' this gives: 'BÃÂºsqueda de informaciÃÂ³n' and if I use this weird, uneditable by hand, string as the string for my Seaside app, I correctly see the string in the web browser: BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n. So, I really don't understand. Should I always write my strings in the image as I want them, use convertToEncoding: method and use the output as if that were my string? Well, thanks for your answers. P.S. I am using pharo core 1.0, Seaside 2.8 and squeakvm version: 4.0.3-2202 #1 XShm Sat Apr 17 18:21:07 UTC 2010 gcc 4.4.3 in a 64 bit Debian Linux with full utf-8 locale: miguel@laptop:~/proyectos/azteca$ locale LANG=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_TIME="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_NAME="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Cheers -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by jaayer

---- On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:46:48 -0700 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote ---- > > #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance. > > I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the '' > > Cheers, > Alexandre Oops. Good catch.

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). I don't see one for Pharo. It appears to be stuck on. I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, and my annoyance level is greatly increased. It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). Where's the preference? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Yes, Indeed, I mean, I used a driver to access, but can't remember now the brand, but I'm sure I not payed for it :) May be I used some trial version.... 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Not, I'm not talking of propietary software. >> >> I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the >> odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this >> http://www.unixodbc.org/ ? > > ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, then it > won't help. > > > Levente > >> >> About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life.... >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>> >>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tudor: >>>> >>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >>> >>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a >>> driver >>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>>> >>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> GermÃ¡n. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should >>>>>> do >>>>>> next? >>>>>> >>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would >>>>>> I >>>>>> do that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>>>> calls >>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>>> >>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>>>> Data >>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>>>> to >>>>> that datasource from your image. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Levente >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know >>>>>>> her." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. 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July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by stephane ducasse

HI guys I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. Stef

July 18, 2010