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Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "StÃ©phane" == StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: StÃ©phane> apparently you are wrong :) StÃ©phane> see the mail of lukas. What part of it is wrong? If you download the image I just linked, and pull up "settings" (which is the only preferency thing you can get from the menus) it does *not* have any control for smart quotes. It's a crippled version. If you open a workspace, and then launch directly: PreferenceBrower open you *can* get to a preference browser that can control smart quotes. So, what part of what I just said is wrong? (a) that image has smart quotes enabled by default (b) that image has no menu access to disabling smart quotes (c) that image is based on Pharo Those are all *fact*. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by Henrik Johansen

Den 19. juli 2010 kl. 15:45 skrev Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> I've added: >>> - native host menus for Mac to the list. >>> - Packages remodularization >>> - New help system >>> >>> What are the most important improvements/changes of 1.1 that we can point out on the website and in the announcement of the new release? >> >> general speed up and lot of improvements :) > > Like the weak collections? :) > > > Levente > ... The wkd in Pharo 1.1 didn't really result in a speedup :) Better Identity hashing, encoding conversions, the other collection changes which made it in, plus rendering speedups f.ex through inlining alot of common morph extensions, and using Strike fonts by default, were though! Cheers, Henry >>>

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Randall apparently you are wrong :) see the mail of lukas. Stef >>>>>> StÃ©phane> Can you let us know which versions? image? you are talking about. > StÃ©phane> May be the preference was not created. > > It's the image at > http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0rc.app.zip > which is linked from www.seaside.st. > > Clearly, this is a derived bundle, based on Pharo, but I don't recall > who is responsible for it. > > I'm posting this for a bit wider awareness though. First, I hate smart > quotes, and am not sure why they're enabled by default so often. > > Second, please don't *hide* the preference to get rid of them. That's > even sillier.

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> I've added: >>> - native host menus for Mac to the list. >>> - Packages remodularization >>> - New help system >>> >>> What are the most important improvements/changes of 1.1 that we can point out on the website and in the announcement of the new release? >> >> general speed up and lot of improvements :) > > Like the weak collections? :) what do you mean? That we do do not do it. Stef

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, jaayer wrote: > > > ---- On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:25:54 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote ---- > >> (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the >> #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It >> degrades performance.) >> >> And where did the XML-Parser go from Pharo? > > XMLSupport has completely string-based for a few months now. Expecting or supplying symbols will probably still work in Squeak and Pharo as Symbol is a subclass of string and #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance. I see. Lots of things changed this year. There were no string-symbol comparison in the code I checked. The parser converted all tagnames to symbols and the queries expected symbol arguments, so symbols were compared with symbols. The problem with this approach is that the symbol table is spammed with all the tags found in the xml document and parsing is slower. The queries are faster of course (if no namespaces are involved). Btw is the package ment to be cross-dialect? Levente > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "StÃ©phane" == StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> writes: StÃ©phane> Can you let us know which versions? image? you are talking about. StÃ©phane> May be the preference was not created. It's the image at http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0rc.app.zip which is linked from www.seaside.st. Clearly, this is a derived bundle, based on Pharo, but I don't recall who is responsible for it. I'm posting this for a bit wider awareness though. First, I hate smart quotes, and am not sure why they're enabled by default so often. Second, please don't *hide* the preference to get rid of them. That's even sillier. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Lukas Renggli

On 19 July 2010 14:36, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > We should create a setting for it. I opened a ticket But there is a setting. There always was a setting. Lukas > > Stef > On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Once I wrote this: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/CodeEditing/SmartCharactersAutocompletio… >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Can you let us know which versions? image? you are talking about. >> May be the preference was not created. >> If this is the case create a bug entry report. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> >> > >> > In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting >> > (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). >> > >> > I don't see one for Pharo. Â It appears to be stuck on. >> > >> > I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, >> > and my annoyance level is greatly increased. >> > >> > It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). >> > >> > Where's the preference? >> > >> > -- >> > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 >> > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> >> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. >> > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by Levente Uzonyi

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> I've added: >> - native host menus for Mac to the list. >> - Packages remodularization >> - New help system >> >> What are the most important improvements/changes of 1.1 that we can point out on the website and in the announcement of the new release? > > general speed up and lot of improvements :) Like the weak collections? :) Levente >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:33 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Hi. We are very near to release 1.1. We need help to remember all we all >>> have been doing on it ;) >>> >>> Here is the current list: >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotOne >>> >>> Please, feel free to add/modify actions. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I guess that I found it SystemChangeNotifier uniqueInstance notify: Smalltalk ofAllSystemChangesUsing: #event: can somebody confirm that in 1.1 with the expression class definition and methods removal are well logged into the changes files? Stef On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:00 AM, stephane ducasse wrote: > HI guys > > I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. > > So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Deployment on Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:55 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > Not only merge the files; I want too do a wizard for configure the state of > image, looks at merlin for that. This is a framework to build wizards. > what maybe launched when the image is startup or down (with events), > change the default error messages, without debug option, or try shrink the > image of not needed packages etc, and finally select the output for windows, > OSX etc . If you come up with some scripts please share. Indeed this would be good to have such infrastructure > Something like that exists on VisualWorks. I donÂ´t know if is > possible do all that, and I need know if exists some previous work. Note that lot of packages can be unloaded and that we hope to get in a shape where we can do the inverse: ie have a small core and load only but before doing that we will have to do the same as in VW (stripping) so if you get problems let us know so that we can slowly make sure that the system is going to be easy to chop into pieces. > > Regards > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Deployment-on-Pharo-tp2293677p2293938.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010