July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Mac like editing?

by Max Leske

Agreed. I don't want mac to rool the world. Pluggable would be cool, maybe with OS specific defaults. Nicolas, you're right of course, cmd + l, and alt + (arrow up / arrow down) were Eclipse specific. I just listed them because I used them a lot and thought they'd be nice to have in Pharo. Max On 22.07.2010, at 21:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > yes > this is the idea. > something that we can plug I want emacs bindings :) > Stef > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > >> Hi, >> I tried some of these in Mac TextEdit, and they don't all work as advertised. >> Anyway, please don't let the feel become Maccentric. >> Let us rather choose among native (default ?), classic squeak, or customizable. >> >> Nicolas >> >> 2010/7/22 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi everyone. >>> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it? >>> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least. >>> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower. >>> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts: >>> >>> cmd + -> : go to end of line >>> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line >>> alt + -> : go to end of the current word >>> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word >>> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1) >>> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line >>> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line) >>> >>> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style. >>> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment. >>> Thanks for listening to my yapping :) >>> Max >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Another O2 deprecation warning

by Johan Fabry

Done. Thanks all for the encouragement ;-) On 22 Jul 2010, at 15:35, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > The repository of O2 is open. Please commit > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 22 Jul 2010, at 21:25, Johan Fabry wrote: > >> Right-click on a protocol -> The method Boolean and:and: has been deprecated. use and: >> >> Culprits: >> - O2CmdExcludeClass>>isActive >> - O2CmdTestPackage>>isActive >> - O2CmdTestClass>>isActive >> - O2CmdExcludeMethod>>isActive >> >> I fixed them in my image. Do I publish a new O2-Enhancements package on SqueakSource or do you want to reapply the fixes i.e. simply put () where necesarry. >> >> -- >> Johan Fabry >> jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] State of Sound in Morph

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 22/07/2010 21:11, Hilaire Fernandes a Ã©crit : > Le 22/07/2010 20:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >>> >>> Of course I took your latest commit. Do this latest commit include the >>> patches Stephane mentioned? >> >> no I guess not. >> Hilaire if you can have a look at the bugtracker and harvest the fixes into sound >> it would be great. > > Sure The proposed pathes are not related to the problem. I replace the clone by a copy, it helps but I don't know the eventual side effects. Hilaire

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak devices and applications

by Juan Vuletich

Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Just read the post from Hilaire about Pharo on OLPC [1]. > > This leads to the following interesting question: > > What is the most crazy device Squeak VM is running on? > What is the most interesting application where nobody > would have expected Squeak/Pharo/Cuis? > > Feel free to answer by posting screenshots/pictures even if > you think the device/app is boring. Would be nice to know > and we can collect these to do a little bit of advertising > on the Squeak/Pharo web pages... > > Bye > T. > > > [1] http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/20/Pharo-Smalltalk-on-… > Hi Torsten, At http://www.jvuletich.org/STBPics/ you can see a few pics of Cuis running on a 100MHz Mipsel STB. The application is media distribution system and smil player done by myself for digital signage. Cheers, Juan Vuletich

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Literal array with evaluated value of stmts, vars etc..

by Eliot Miranda

and here's a port to closures... On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > 2010/7/22 Sudhakar Krishnamachari <skrishnamachari(a)gmail.com> > > And of course the extensibility it gives: >> >> [ 1->'asd'. 2->'asd'. 3->'dsd' ] asDictionary >> > > I think Travis Griggs' once is much much nicer: > > [{ 1->'asd'. 2->'asd'. 3->'dsd' } asDictionary] once > > when once is sent to a BlockClosure it becomes itself into a > CachedBlockClosure that remembers and answers the evaluated value. > You could add selectors to this such as > onceEachSession - destroy the cached value on image startup > > It doesn't require any special compiler machinery (unlike ##(...)) and so > there are no problems with browsing references or senders within > compile-time evaluated forms. It is easily extensible to different > life-times. It is portable. > > my 2Â¢ > > Eliot > >> >> ... >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Sudhakar Krishnamachari < >> skrishnamachari(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> * >>> *>* > It's different because evaluated only once, either at method compilation >>> >>> *>* or at first execution (lazy initialization). >>> * >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Another O2 deprecation warning

by Alexandre Bergel

The repository of O2 is open. Please commit Cheers, Alexandre On 22 Jul 2010, at 21:25, Johan Fabry wrote: > Right-click on a protocol -> The method Boolean and:and: has been deprecated. use and: > > Culprits: > - O2CmdExcludeClass>>isActive > - O2CmdTestPackage>>isActive > - O2CmdTestClass>>isActive > - O2CmdExcludeMethod>>isActive > > I fixed them in my image. Do I publish a new O2-Enhancements package on SqueakSource or do you want to reapply the fixes i.e. simply put () where necesarry. > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Is Object>>name important?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

we could use printString for those ones instead. On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > The #name is sent to object to display an inspector title. > also used in inspector for printing an instances with default > printstring method. > > On 21 July 2010 18:45, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Time to time, I need to create a #name method on my class. But I found a bit ugly to do an override. >> Is Object>>name that important? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Another O2 deprecation warning

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes? On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Right-click on a protocol -> The method Boolean and:and: has been deprecated. use and: > > Culprits: > - O2CmdExcludeClass>>isActive > - O2CmdTestPackage>>isActive > - O2CmdTestClass>>isActive > - O2CmdExcludeMethod>>isActive > > I fixed them in my image. Do I publish a new O2-Enhancements package on SqueakSource or do you want to reapply the fixes i.e. simply put () where necesarry. > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Another O2 deprecation warning

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Right-click on a protocol -> The method Boolean and:and: has been > deprecated. use and: > > Culprits: > - O2CmdExcludeClass>>isActive > - O2CmdTestPackage>>isActive > - O2CmdTestClass>>isActive > - O2CmdExcludeMethod>>isActive > > I fixed them in my image. Do I publish a new O2-Enhancements package on > SqueakSource or do you want to reapply the fixes i.e. simply put () where > necesarry. > > Commit the fixes!!! :) After, when everything is working perfect, you can update the metacello conf a release a new version :) > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry<http://dcc.uchile.cl/%7Ejfabry> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mac like editing?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes this is the idea. something that we can plug I want emacs bindings :) Stef On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Hi, > I tried some of these in Mac TextEdit, and they don't all work as advertised. > Anyway, please don't let the feel become Maccentric. > Let us rather choose among native (default ?), classic squeak, or customizable. > > Nicolas > > 2010/7/22 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> >> >> Hi everyone. >> I have no idea what the status is on the editor in pharo and if there are any plans to do something to / with it. If there's some resource, could you point me to it? >> In the meantime I thought I'd share my impressions with you; doesn't hurt at least. >> Since I started developing in Pharo I've struggled with the editor, in particular with the fact that I need to use the mouse a lot to position the cursor which, as all of you know, makes development quite a bit slower. >> Before I came to Pharo I used to develop in Eclipse and Eclipse supports all shortcuts used inside OS X (and if not you can change the shortcut settings). My favorite shortcuts: >> >> cmd + -> : go to end of line >> cmd + <- : go to beginning of line >> alt + -> : go to end of the current word >> alt + -> : go to beginning of current word >> alt + arrow up : switch the line above with the current line (current line has line number -1, line above has line number +1) >> alt + arrow down : switch the line below with the current line >> cmd + l : delete line (I know this shortcut is used to cancel changes at the moment. Still, I haven't found a shortcut yet that deletes a single line) >> >> I'd LOVE to see this in Pharo, or at least be able to configure the shortcuts myself. I think, being able to change the shortcuts is important anyway because each developer has an own style. >> I'd try to come up with a solution myself but I just don't have the time at the moment. >> Thanks for listening to my yapping :) >> Max >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 22, 2010