July 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2635 - methods recategorization

by Pavel Krivanek

code: SmartRefStream organization moveCategory: 'conversion' to: '*Morphic'. TextIndent class organization moveCategory: '*example' to: '*ST80'. Object organization moveCategory: '*monticello' to: '*Traits'. Object organization moveCategory: 'creation' to: '*Morphic'. Object organization moveCategory: 'inspecting' to: '*Tools-Inspector'. Object organization moveCategory: 'graph model' to: '*Morphic'. Object organization moveCategory: 'thumbnail' to: '*Morphic'. Object organization moveCategory: 'viewer' to: '*Morphic'. description: SmartRefStream organization moveCategory: 'conversion' to: '*Morphic'. - defines conversions for old Morphic class names TextIndent class organization moveCategory: '*example' to: '*ST80'. - dependent on a paragraph Object organization moveCategory: '*monticello' to: '*Traits'. - real senders of the single method isConfilct only from traits (included in the PharoKernel) Object organization moveCategory: 'creation' to: '*Morphic'. - asMorph and similar conversions to morphs Object organization moveCategory: 'inspecting' to: '*Tools-Inspector'. - inspect and similar methods Object organization moveCategory: 'graph model' to: '*Morphic'. - two morphic dependent classes called only from morphic Object organization moveCategory: 'thumbnail' to: '*Morphic'. - single method iconOrThumbnailOfSize:, called only from morphic and dependent packages Object organization moveCategory: 'viewer' to: '*Morphic'. - single method externalName, called only from morphic and dependent packages I removed renaming of the category StandardFileStream >> 'browser requests' because it will be better if we will open an issue for separate package for the browser plugin support.

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on OLPC XO kid notebook

by Serge Stinckwich

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Serge Stinckwich-2 wrote: >> >> The idea is not to have Pharo as an IDE for kids but to use Pharo to >> develop XO software for kids. >> > > Ok, and in which environment will these kids develop XO software then? Kids will not develop software, they will use pedagogical activities developed in Pharo like Dr Geo 2 for example. -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on OLPC XO kid notebook

by Geert Claes

Serge Stinckwich-2 wrote: > > The idea is not to have Pharo as an IDE for kids but to use Pharo to > develop XO software for kids. > Ok, and in which environment will these kids develop XO software then? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-on-OLPC-XO-kid-notebook-tp2279811p2280559.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on OLPC XO kid notebook

by Serge Stinckwich

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hilaire Fernandes-6 wrote: >> >> ... >> Now that Pharo 1.1 is in good sigh and as we are not ashame any more to >> show how Smalltalk looks like we could also produce a release of Pharo for >> OLPC XO Sugar environment >> ... >> > > My 2 cents is that the IDE - as it is stands now - is probably not intuitive > enough for kids. The idea is not to have Pharo as an IDE for kids but to use Pharo to develop XO software for kids. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on OLPC XO kid notebook

by Geert Claes

Hilaire Fernandes-6 wrote: > > ... > Now that Pharo 1.1 is in good sigh and as we are not ashame any more to > show how Smalltalk looks like we could also produce a release of Pharo for > OLPC XO Sugar environment > ... > My 2 cents is that the IDE - as it is stands now - is probably not intuitive enough for kids. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-on-OLPC-XO-kid-notebook-tp2279811p2280527.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] Markup Builder in Smalltalk

by Sudhakar Krishnamachari

Accepted and committed as alpha: 1.13 in http://squeaksource.com/PharoGoodies/ modified api is: newBldr := XMLBuilder new. newBldr xmlPreprocessor; attributes: #(âa=â6â³â âb=â7â³â); test: âwelcome to buildersâ with: [ newBldr attributes: #('a="1"' 'b="2"'); trial: ''; attributes: #('a="3"' 'b="4"'); trial: 'testing..' ; trial ]. to get: '<?xml version="1.0" ?><test a="6" b="7" >welcome to builders<trial a="1" b="2" ></trial><trial a="3" b="4" >testing..</trial><trial></trial></test>' hope this aligns.. lots more stil to be cleaned for plugins, will do so by the next commit.. -Skrish ***** There is an interest! Please submit/publish it... Now What is the exact API I found cNode: a bit a bad name. What does it mesn childrenNode: newBldr := XMLBuilder new xmlPreprocessor. newBldr mbAttr: #(âa=â6â³â âb=â7â³â); test: âwelcome to buildersâ why new and xmlPreprocessor mbAttr: sucks also! Could you shine a bit the API to be reader friendly? Stef

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing " above and below expressions in comments?

by Lukas Renggli

> Again: when I have a method > > Â Â Â foo > Â Â Â Â self sendMessage: myMessage with: text. > Â Â Â Â self sendSecondMessage: myMessage. > > B) In Pharo (with OB): I can only check the senders/implementors > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â of #foo which is limiting and makes it hard to search > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â for s/i of the other messages sent from within the > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â method body. > > => So I'm limited with Pharo(OB) compared to Standard browser in Core. In OB you select (in the list or in the source code) whatever you want to browse/references/implementors/senders of. There are no additional pop-ups or questions. And please Torsten could you *finally* fix your e-mail client/account? You are the only one in the whole Smalltalk world that constantly messes up the mail threading. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] Mysql Port of Josh Mcdonald Driver

by Sudhakar Krishnamachari

Hi, Can anyone forward the latest version of Alan Reider's fixes of the Mysql driver. I cant access the squeak map I get link of.. -Skrish

July 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo on OLPC XO kid notebook

by Serge Stinckwich

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > OLPC moto is based from day one on the use of dynamic language to design the > content coming with their notebook. > > It is to write content but also to allow kids to examine source code, edit > it and test it ; as we are doing continuously in Smalltalk. > They even think about a source-code key in the keyboard to instantaneously > open a source code browser exposing the code of a running application. > > Now that Pharo 1.1 is in good sigh and as we are not ashame any more to show > how Smalltalk looks like we could also produce a release of Pharo for OLPC > XO Sugar environment. It is definitely a good opportunity to bring an > interesting tool to neutral mind (kids). In the other hand, it will > definitely help to bring awareness about Pharo. Â For example, without any > action of my part, DrGeoII was downloaded about 180'000 times in one year > for XO. > > Any takers? I'm interested ! I'm involved in OLPC Vietnam and we would like to develop more contents in Vietnamese. Our website is here: http://olpc.vn/ Some vietnamese students (one of them is in CC on this message) are working to port Magic Words (http://comikit.se/page_magicwords.html ) to the XO and we are looking for an Smalltalk image for deployment (at the moment we are considering using the EToys image). What should be done: - build a specific VM (reuse EToys work), - port D-BUS to Pharo : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/D-BUS This is mostly used to communicate with OLPC-services. There is already an EToys version: http://www.squeaksource.com/dbus.html - package Pharo as an xo package, - adapt PBE to have a PBE-Sugar edition. > Hilaire > > PS: I have a couple of XO machines for testing purpose. I've got one. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

July 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] feedup of selecting doit or typing " above and below expressions in comments?

by Torsten Bergmann

>This was removed on request of Stef and I completely agree on this: >for me it is time consuming to be forced to search for the selector in >a sorted list when the selector is written/selected right in front of >me. Maybe I dont understand what you wrote - but if I understand you correctly OB had the same behavior as in Core and this was removed from OB on request of Stef? Again: when I have a method foo self sendMessage: myMessage with: text. self sendSecondMessage: myMessage. A) In Core: I'm able to browse the senders/implementors of all three selectors using the sorted list provided by the "Senders of..."/"Implementors of..." menu: #(foo, sendMessage:with:, sendSecondMessage:) where the methods selector (#foo) of the selected method is explicitly at the top. B) In Pharo (with OB): I can only check the senders/implementors of #foo which is limiting and makes it hard to search for s/i of the other messages sent from within the method body. => So I'm limited with Pharo(OB) compared to Standard browser in Core. Bye T. -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

July 6, 2010