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Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

by Lukas Renggli

> It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the method, bring push up and then you go to the next one > but the list is not selected just the item. > I got that a lot during our refactoring session. Name: OmniBrowser-lr.483 Author: lr Time: 18 July 2010, 3:20:03 pm UUID: f8c1b3df-4fda-4cf2-a533-e721c0cd5088 Ancestors: OmniBrowser-lr.482 - more agressively refresh display when a node disappears > BTW lukas could you have > rename class >>>>rename class refactoring close to rename class? Consistency is more important in my option. Otherwise we have to move all other refactorings too and we end up with a mess. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Lukas Renggli

This input box comes from PSUIManager>>#chooseFrom:values:lines:title: Older images do not show the text-input field. Lukas On 18 July 2010 15:18, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box > for simple selections? > > Lukas > > 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> I even think >> >> Â PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >> Â Â Â "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >> Â Â Â (self confirm: >> 'Changes have not been saved. >> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >> Â Â Â Â Â Â ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >> >> >> is better ;) >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> sorry, I attach picture. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>>> >>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>> >>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes >>>> have not been saved."Â Â and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>> >>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but >>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Lukas Renggli

That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box for simple selections? Lukas 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > I even think > > Â PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > Â Â Â "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > Â Â Â (self confirm: > 'Changes have not been saved. > Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > Â Â Â Â Â Â ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > > > is better ;) > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> sorry, I attach picture. >> >> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>> >>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>> >>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes >>> have not been saved."Â Â and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>> >>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but >>> I didn't find how to do it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I even think PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" (self confirm: 'Changes have not been saved. Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. is better ;) On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > sorry, I attach picture. > > > On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >> >> because it sucks for me those popups. >> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >> >> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes >> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >> >> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but >> I didn't find how to do it. >> >> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> > >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Mariano Martinez Peck

sorry, I attach picture. On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: > > because it sucks for me those popups. > First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect > items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. > > So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes > have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". > Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. > > I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but I > didn't find how to do it. > > Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. > > Cheers > > Mariano >

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: because it sucks for me those popups. First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: "'Changes have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest but I didn't find how to do it. Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. Cheers Mariano

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by Hilaire Fernandes

Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London? Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, changes, Gary or Alain? Hilaire Le 18/07/2010 12:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > Cool keep pushing > We will get a smaller and nicer system. > > Stef > On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> It starts to take shape. >> Here is a note with screen shot >> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha… >> >> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge. >> >> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12058

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12058 ----- Issue 2676 - remove PluggableButtonMorphPlus

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository? Stef On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:27 AM, jaayer wrote: > > > ---- On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:54:31 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote ---- > >> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It degrades performance.) >>> >>> Feel free to provide a fix. I will be pleased to review and include it. > > It was fixed some time ago; I posted about it on this very group a few months back. > >> Well, thinking about it again I found that it depends on the use case. >> It's faster if the xml is small, has only a few different tags and not >> many tags use namespaces. It's slower in other cases. Also the >> parse/extract matters. Btw I still can't find the package in a core image. > > > The package is XMLSupport on squeaksource.com. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12057

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12057 ----- Issue 2676 - Really removing the classes PluggableListMorphPlus removed the classes this times :) Stef and Gary

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] apparently renameClass

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Lukas we did a rename class and we got a message like Class is a global or ... at the end. We continue. And now we realized that the class was (appeared to be) removed but when we published the code with MC. The class was not removed. Stef

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharocasts: Start Pharo on GNU/Linux

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This is good we will have a really nice set of videos for beginners. May be after we will have to organize them. Stef On Jul 17, 2010, at 11:38 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > For beginners, how to download image, sources, VM and open Pharo. Start spreading :) > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/pharo-install.html > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self halt is selected. >> I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we can directly refactor the next one. >> Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old one but this is really taking cycle of attention. > > The refactoring is performed in a different thread than the one that > updates the GUI and refreshes the display. So it takes a few hundred > milliseconds to propagate the changes to all other browser windows. > You can see the same when you edit a method. > > I've committed a little change that forces the browser that opened the > refactoring change browser to immediately refresh the original > browser. For all the other windows it still takes a short time to > refresh. Thanks lukas > > Name: OB-Refactory-lr.221 > Author: lr > Time: 18 July 2010, 11:09:39 am > UUID: ea66aaba-9f9e-4f48-9cfd-9710601065b8 > Ancestors: OB-Refactory-lr.220 > > - force the browser that performs a refactoring to refresh > immediately (all other browsers still take a few 100 milliseconds to > get the system change notification and to refresh the display) > >> The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected because it was in light blue but the list itself was >> not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the system barked telling me that the selection was not >> good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in the case I could see the selection because the list >> was surrounded by a blue line). > > Can you describe step by step how to reproduce that? I am not aware of > such a problem. It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the method, bring push up and then you go to the next one but the list is not selected just the item. I got that a lot during our refactoring session. BTW lukas could you have rename class >>>rename class refactoring close to rename class? Because this is something that we do often. Stef

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Cool keep pushing We will get a smaller and nicer system. Stef On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > It starts to take shape. > Here is a note with screen shot > http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha… > > To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge. > > There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior. > > Hilaire > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12056

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12056 ----- Issue 2676 - Remove PluggableListMorphPlus Stef and Gary from CS@London

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi. We are very near to release 1.1. We need help to remember all we all have been doing on it ;) Here is the current list: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotOne Please, feel free to add/modify actions. Cheers Mariano

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12055

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12055 ----- Remove PreferenceBrowser Stef and Gary

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12054

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12054 ----- preparing unload of preferences 2 Stef and Gary

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12053

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12053 ----- preparing unload of preferences Stef and Gary

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

by Lukas Renggli

> Â Â Â Â after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self halt is selected. > Â Â Â Â I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we can directly refactor the next one. > Â Â Â Â Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old one but this is really taking cycle of attention. The refactoring is performed in a different thread than the one that updates the GUI and refreshes the display. So it takes a few hundred milliseconds to propagate the changes to all other browser windows. You can see the same when you edit a method. I've committed a little change that forces the browser that opened the refactoring change browser to immediately refresh the original browser. For all the other windows it still takes a short time to refresh. Name: OB-Refactory-lr.221 Author: lr Time: 18 July 2010, 11:09:39 am UUID: ea66aaba-9f9e-4f48-9cfd-9710601065b8 Ancestors: OB-Refactory-lr.220 - force the browser that performs a refactoring to refresh immediately (all other browsers still take a few 100 milliseconds to get the system change notification and to refresh the display) > Â Â Â Â The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected because it was in light blue but the list itself was > Â Â Â Â not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the system barked telling me that the selection was not > Â Â Â Â good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in the case I could see the selection because the list > Â Â Â Â was surrounded by a blue line). Can you describe step by step how to reproduce that? I am not aware of such a problem. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by Hilaire Fernandes

It starts to take shape. Here is a note with screen shot http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha… To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge. There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior. Hilaire

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I tried loading it, but I get : > "This package depends on the following classes: > ExternalLibrary > ExternalStructure" > > Can anyone tell me where to find these from? > This means that you need Metacello ;) Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the ConfigurationOfFFI. Cheers Mariano > > Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >>> >>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>> >> >> Yes, with ODBC. >> >> >> Levente >> >> >>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From the webpage, it looks like Access is not among the supported backends. > > But, I would be happy to be wrong :). Does anyone have a more precise idea? > > SqueakDBX doesn't support Access but does ODBC. However, I think using the ODBC driver would be easier for you. > Doru > > > > On 18 Jul 2010, at 02:14, Gabriel Brunstein wrote: > > Maybe squeakDBX, i don't know if it supports Access. >> >> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >> >> Yes, with ODBC. >> >> >> Levente >> >> >> >> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Don't give to get. Just give." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

From the webpage, it looks like Access is not among the supported backends. But, I would be happy to be wrong :). Does anyone have a more precise idea? Doru On 18 Jul 2010, at 02:14, Gabriel Brunstein wrote: > Maybe squeakDBX, i don't know if it supports Access. > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? > > Yes, with ODBC. > > > Levente > > > > I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know > her." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I tried loading it, but I get : "This package depends on the following classes: ExternalLibrary ExternalStructure" Can anyone tell me where to find these from? Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? Cheers, Doru On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? > > Yes, with ODBC. > > > Levente > >> >> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know >> her." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier."

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi lukas I refactored a lot of code with gary yesterday and when we used refactor like push up method for example, we got bitten by two problems after the method is moved, the method with the same name but self halt is selected. I think that it would be better to select another one, like that we can directly refactor the next one. Else you read again the code during 2 s and think ok this is the old one but this is really taking cycle of attention. The selection is strange, often I got an item kind of selected because it was in light blue but the list itself was not selected so I could select the refactoring to happy but the system barked telling me that the selection was not good and I have to click again on the item so select it for real (in the case I could see the selection because the list was surrounded by a blue line). If you have time this would be great to fix these two problems. Stef

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by jaayer

---- On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:54:31 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote ---- >On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It degrades performance.) >> >> Feel free to provide a fix. I will be pleased to review and include it. It was fixed some time ago; I posted about it on this very group a few months back. >Well, thinking about it again I found that it depends on the use case. >It's faster if the xml is small, has only a few different tags and not >many tags use namespaces. It's slower in other cases. Also the >parse/extract matters. Btw I still can't find the package in a core image. The package is XMLSupport on squeaksource.com.

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by jaayer

---- On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:25:54 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote ---- >(Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the >#tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It >degrades performance.) > >And where did the XML-Parser go from Pharo? XMLSupport has completely string-based for a few months now. Expecting or supplying symbols will probably still work in Squeak and Pharo as Symbol is a subclass of string and #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance.

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Gabriel Brunstein

Maybe squeakDBX, i don't know if it supports Access. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, >> >> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >> > > Yes, with ODBC. > > > Levente > > > >> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? Yes, with ODBC. Levente > > I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharocasts: Start Pharo on GNU/Linux

by laurent laffont

For beginners, how to download image, sources, VM and open Pharo. Start spreading :) http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/07/pharo-install.html Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her."

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12051

by Marcus Denker

12051 ----- Issue 2201: SarInstaller refers to SqueakMap Issue 2680: Renaming a key in a dictionary and cancelling renames the key to nil -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12050

by stephane ducasse

12050 ----- - Issue 2671: SelectedObjectThumbnail should be removed - Issue 2669: ProgressMorph should be removed - Issue 2675: Push everything from PSUIManager to MorphicUIManager Stef and Gary from London

July 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Alexandre Bergel

> Well, thinking about it again I found that it depends on the use case. It's faster if the xml is small, has only a few different tags and not many tags use namespaces. It's slower in other cases. Also the parse/extract matters. Btw I still can't find the package in a core image. Which package are you referring to? XML-Support in the core? Cheers, Alexandre > > > Levente > >> >> Pastell is also very convenient for XPath querying. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.1] pre-built core 1.1 #11410 RELEASE

by Marcus Denker

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27288/PharoCore-1.1-11410.zip -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11410 RELEASE Core

by Marcus Denker

11410 ----- Release This update does. SystemVersion newVersion: 'Pharo1.1'. ScriptLoader hideIntegrationMenu. ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. ScriptLoader hideIntegrationMenu. Greetings from campsmalltalk London! -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Levente Uzonyi

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It degrades performance.) > > Feel free to provide a fix. I will be pleased to review and include it. Well, thinking about it again I found that it depends on the use case. It's faster if the xml is small, has only a few different tags and not many tags use namespaces. It's slower in other cases. Also the parse/extract matters. Btw I still can't find the package in a core image. Levente > > Pastell is also very convenient for XPath querying. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Alexandre Bergel

> (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It degrades performance.) Feel free to provide a fix. I will be pleased to review and include it. Pastell is also very convenient for XPath querying. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Levente Uzonyi

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010, Larry Gadallah wrote: > On 16 July 2010 11:54, <pharo-project-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> wrote: >> Message: 7 >> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:52:27 -0300 >> From: Hern?n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Message-ID: >> Â Â Â Â <AANLkTinIZLHI6TRXX9ddV7PSA3a0Xt2vOQbGyQjYfE98(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> How big is your XML file? Molecular biology? >> >> Hern?n >> >> 2010/7/16 Larry Gadallah <lgadallah(a)gmail.com>: >>> Hi all: >>> >>> I am a noob searching for an example of how to demarshall a set of >>> simple and complex XML nodes into an object using Pastell or something >>> similar. I have found many examples of how to pick out all of the >>> elements of a certain type into a collection, but I'm trying to grab >>> the data from a mixed collection of (~20) elements that are children >>> of a particular element type and unpack them into an object. >>> >>> Does anyone know of some good examples of how to do this using Pastell >>> or something similar? >>> > > Hernan: > > The files are definitely not molecular biology. They are quite small, > and they represent simple catalog items with typical attributes (i.e. > item number, name, rating, etc.). > > The element hierarchy looks something like this: > > <catalog> > <status> > </status> > <products> > <list> > <product> > > <id></id> > <name></name> > <reviews> > ... > </reviews> > <labels> > .... > <labels> > <type></type> > </product> > > </list> > </products> > </catalog> > > So, what I want to do is be able to demarshall <product> elements into > a product object. I have seen plenty of examples of how to grab the > content of all of the name elements, but none showing how to pull all > of the sub-elements of a given element type into an object. If your xml documents are small (fit into memory), then the best is to use XMLDOMParser to build you a dom tree. Then you can do all kind of queries depending on the structure. The following example assumes a flat structure and non-repeating child nodes: doc := '<yourxmldocument/>' dom := XMLDOMParser parseDocumentFrom: doc readStream. objects := Array streamContents: [ :stream | dom tagsNamed: #product do: [ :tag | | object | object := Dictionary new. tag elementsDo: [ :element | object at: element name put: element contentString ]. stream nextPut: object ] ]. (Btw the idea that XMLElement >> #tag is returning a symbol and the #tags*[dD]o: methods are expecting a symbol for tag is a very bad idea. It degrades performance.) And where did the XML-Parser go from Pharo? Levente > > Thanks, > -- > Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/W7Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â lgadallah AT gmail DOT com > PGP Sig: 917E DDB7 C911 9EC1 0CD9Â C06B 06C4 835F 0BB8 7336 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Ramon Leon

On 7/16/2010 12:20 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > do you want a login? It would be cool that you fix it and comment it :) Sure. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

do you want a login? It would be cool that you fix it and comment it :) Stef On Jul 16, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Ramon Leon wrote: > On 7/16/2010 11:44 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> I added it to the book page :)_ > > Cool, but you should remove the first method as it's just a helper that uses a private package SSConfig to grab config from disk. The second method is the only one necessary. I'd fix it myself but I don't have a login. Should also mention that the purpose of it is to use standard syslog facilities found on any Linux system and some windows systems. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Larry Gadallah

On 16 July 2010 11:54, <pharo-project-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:52:27 -0300 > From: Hern?n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Message-ID: > Â Â Â Â <AANLkTinIZLHI6TRXX9ddV7PSA3a0Xt2vOQbGyQjYfE98(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > How big is your XML file? Molecular biology? > > Hern?n > > 2010/7/16 Larry Gadallah <lgadallah(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi all: >> >> I am a noob searching for an example of how to demarshall a set of >> simple and complex XML nodes into an object using Pastell or something >> similar. I have found many examples of how to pick out all of the >> elements of a certain type into a collection, but I'm trying to grab >> the data from a mixed collection of (~20) elements that are children >> of a particular element type and unpack them into an object. >> >> Does anyone know of some good examples of how to do this using Pastell >> or something similar? >> Hernan: The files are definitely not molecular biology. They are quite small, and they represent simple catalog items with typical attributes (i.e. item number, name, rating, etc.). The element hierarchy looks something like this: <catalog> <status> </status> <products> <list> <product> <id></id> <name></name> <reviews> ... </reviews> <labels> .... <labels> <type></type> </product> </list> </products> </catalog> So, what I want to do is be able to demarshall <product> elements into a product object. I have seen plenty of examples of how to grab the content of all of the name elements, but none showing how to pull all of the sub-elements of a given element type into an object. Thanks, -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/W7Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â lgadallah AT gmail DOT com PGP Sig: 917E DDB7 C911 9EC1 0CD9Â C06B 06C4 835F 0BB8 7336

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Ramon Leon

On 7/16/2010 11:44 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I added it to the book page :)_ Cool, but you should remove the first method as it's just a helper that uses a private package SSConfig to grab config from disk. The second method is the only one necessary. I'd fix it myself but I don't have a login. Should also mention that the purpose of it is to use standard syslog facilities found on any Linux system and some windows systems. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

How big is your XML file? Molecular biology? HernÃ¡n 2010/7/16 Larry Gadallah <lgadallah(a)gmail.com>: > Hi all: > > I am a noob searching for an example of how to demarshall a set of > simple and complex XML nodes into an object using Pastell or something > similar. I have found many examples of how to pick out all of the > elements of a certain type into a collection, but I'm trying to grab > the data from a mixed collection of (~20) elements that are children > of a particular element type and unpack them into an object. > > Does anyone know of some good examples of how to do this using Pastell > or something similar? > > Thanks, > -- > Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/W7Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â lgadallah AT gmail DOT com > PGP Sig: 917E DDB7 C911 9EC1 0CD9Â C06B 06C4 835F 0BB8 7336 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I added it to the book page :)_ On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Ramon Leon wrote: > On 7/16/2010 4:22 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> Not, I'm talking about a particular context. I needed a simple logging >> of text on a text file and don't wanted to invest the time to >> understand the whole thing behind the logger of K. >> >> GermÃ¡n. > > I hear you, I like simple as well; I setup a syslog/syslog-ng server and let Linux worry about it. Here's my logger... > > SysLog>>sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText > [ self sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText toServer: (SSConfig at: #sysLogServer) ] > on: Error do: [] > > SysLog>>sendPriority: aPriority body: aBody toServer: anIPAddress > | logServer client logHostIP | > anIPAddress isEmptyOrNil ifTrue: [ ^self ]. > logServer := Socket newUDP setPort: 514. > > [ client := Socket newUDP. > [ logHostIP := ((anIPAddress split: '.') collect: [:e | e asInteger ]) asByteArray . > client sendUDPData: aPriority , ' ' , aBody toHost: logHostIP port: logServer port ] > ensure: [ client closeAndDestroy ] ] > ensure: [ logServer closeAndDestroy ] > > That's about all I need from my logging package. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I know that there is OPAX to better handle XML files to support an either conversion using a bit of reflection but I did not use it myself. On Jul 16, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Larry Gadallah wrote: > Hi all: > > I am a noob searching for an example of how to demarshall a set of > simple and complex XML nodes into an object using Pastell or something > similar. I have found many examples of how to pick out all of the > elements of a certain type into a collection, but I'm trying to grab > the data from a mixed collection of (~20) elements that are children > of a particular element type and unpack them into an object. > > Does anyone know of some good examples of how to do this using Pastell > or something similar? > > Thanks, > -- > Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/W7 lgadallah AT gmail DOT com > PGP Sig: 917E DDB7 C911 9EC1 0CD9 C06B 06C4 835F 0BB8 7336 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

ahh, ok. 2010/7/16 Ramon Leon <ramon.leon(a)allresnet.com>: > On 7/16/2010 10:14 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >> Interesting approach.... >> >> The only concern is that is tied to Linux, I mean, not multiplatform...... >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. > > Not at all, I log to syslog-ng servers on windows as well. Â Cygwin is your > friend. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by Ramon Leon

On 7/16/2010 10:14 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Interesting approach.... > > The only concern is that is tied to Linux, I mean, not multiplatform...... > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. Not at all, I log to syslog-ng servers on windows as well. Cygwin is your friend. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

July 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] SimpleLogger released

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Interesting approach.... The only concern is that is tied to Linux, I mean, not multiplatform...... Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2010/7/16 Ramon Leon <ramon.leon(a)allresnet.com>: > On 7/16/2010 4:22 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >> Not, I'm talking about a particular context. I needed a simple logging >> of text on a text file and don't wanted to invest the time to >> understand the whole thing behind the logger of K. >> >> GermÃ¡n. > > I hear you, I like simple as well; I setup a syslog/syslog-ng server and let > Linux worry about it. Â Here's my logger... > > SysLog>>sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText > Â Â Â Â [ self sendPriority: anErrorLevel body: someText toServer: (SSConfig > at: #sysLogServer) ] > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â on: Error do: [] > > SysLog>>sendPriority: aPriority body: aBody toServer: anIPAddress > Â Â Â Â | logServer client logHostIP | > Â Â Â Â anIPAddress isEmptyOrNil ifTrue: [ ^self ]. > Â Â Â Â logServer := Socket newUDP setPort: 514. > > Â Â Â Â [ client := Socket newUDP. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [ logHostIP := ((anIPAddress split: '.') collect: [:e | e > asInteger ]) asByteArray . > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â client sendUDPData: aPriority , ' ' , aBody toHost: logHostIP > port: logServer port ] > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ensure: [ client closeAndDestroy ] ] > Â Â Â Â ensure: [ logServer closeAndDestroy ] > > That's about all I need from my logging package. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. ArduinoÂ <gsa @ arsol.net>Â Â Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web HostingÂ Â http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsProÂ http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

July 16, 2010