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Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > How would a choice like > > 'Remove it' > 'Remove, then browse senders' > 'Don''t remove, but show me those senders' > 'Forget it -- do nothing -- sorry I asked' > > be displayed this? This filterable list certainly does not make sense. > > Hi Lukas. Maybe you misunterstood. I was talking ONLY about the discard changes windows. Because it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. Cheers mariano > Lukas > > 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > Thanks Gary, this is much better. > > For me this is perfect: > > > > UIManager default > > confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs > > trueChoice: 'Save' translated > > falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers < > gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. > >> > >> Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for > yes/not > >> style answers. > >> > >> The better approach for this would be > >> > >> UIManager default > >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard > >> these changes?' translated withCRs > >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated > >> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > >> > >> Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano > >> suggested he wanted). > >> To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... > >> > >> UIManager default > >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these > >> changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs > >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated > >> falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated > >> > >> Regards, Gary > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> > >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and > >> input > >> > >> > >> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box > >> for simple selections? > >> > >> Lukas > >> > >> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >>> > >>> I even think > >>> > >>> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > >>> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > >>> (self confirm: > >>> 'Changes have not been saved. > >>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > >>> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > >>> > >>> > >>> is better ;) > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> sorry, I attach picture. > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> > >>>>> aboutToChange: > >>>>> > >>>>> because it sucks for me those popups. > >>>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and > subselect > >>>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: > >>>>> "'Changes > >>>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". > >>>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. > >>>>> > >>>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest > >>>>> but > >>>>> I didn't find how to do it. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> Mariano > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Lukas Renggli > >> www.lukas-renggli.ch > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Lukas Renggli

How would a choice like 'Remove it' 'Remove, then browse senders' 'Don''t remove, but show me those senders' 'Forget it -- do nothing -- sorry I asked' be displayed this? This filterable list certainly does not make sense. Lukas 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks Gary, this is much better. > For me this is perfect: > > UIManager default > confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs > trueChoice: 'Save' translated > falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > wrote: >> >> Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. >> >> Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not >> style answers. >> >> The better approach for this would be >> >> UIManager default >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard >> these changes?' translated withCRs >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >> falseChoice: 'Discard' translated >> >> Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano >> suggested he wanted). >> To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... >> >> UIManager default >> confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these >> changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs >> trueChoice: 'Save' translated >> falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and >> input >> >> >> That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box >> for simple selections? >> >> Lukas >> >> 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> I even think >>> >>> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >>> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >>> (self confirm: >>> 'Changes have not been saved. >>> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >>> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >>> >>> >>> is better ;) >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> sorry, I attach picture. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> >>>>> aboutToChange: >>>>> >>>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>>> >>>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>>>> "'Changes >>>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>>> >>>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>>>> but >>>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Update of Seaside One-Click Experience 3.0RC (development) image fails when using the Software update menu

by Franz Josef Konrad

I've downloaded the newest development image from <http://www.seaside.st/download/pharo> (the link of the image is <http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0rc.app.zip>). If you enable "Show update option in World menu" in the settings browser and try to bring the image up2date using this menu it fails. It seems to me that this image has a wrong version string 'Pharo-1.1-11406-rc3' instead of 'Pharo1.1rc3'. When you evaluate SystemVersion current version: 'Pharo1.1rc3' the update of the image works fine via the menu System>Software update. Regards, Franz Josef

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Gary, this is much better. For me this is perfect: UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Discard' translated Cheers Mariano On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>wrote: > Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. > > Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not > style answers. > > The better approach for this would be > > UIManager default > confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard > these changes?' translated withCRs > trueChoice: 'Save' translated > falseChoice: 'Discard' translated > > Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano > suggested he wanted). > To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... > > UIManager default > confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these > changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs > trueChoice: 'Save' translated > falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input > > > > That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box > for simple selections? > > Lukas > > 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> I even think >> >> PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel >> "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" >> (self confirm: >> 'Changes have not been saved. >> Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) >> ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. >> >> >> is better ;) >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> sorry, I attach picture. >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>>> >>>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>>> >>>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>>> "'Changes >>>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>>> >>>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>>> but >>>> I didn't find how to do it. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by Gary Chambers

Turn off the "Fade background windows" setting in Settings->Appearance->Morphic->Windows Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > One indication I need: how can I change the automatic color scheme on > dialog and window, I want selected and unselected windows/dialogs with > the same canvas color. > > Hilaire > > Le 18/07/2010 22:28, Gary Chambers a Ã©crit : >> No problem. I can review/help. >> >> Regards, Gary > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxECxQACgkQSAvrR6lz6PTR+ACfb7yEMjgNQtEPXpJqzylAfC6y > j0YAn0t+MouSUH6Mj0f6n11mENj56JK0 > =8RFR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input

by Gary Chambers

Not a bug in Polymorph as such, just a misuse perhaps. Choices are for lists, Squeak used to use this mechanism even for yes/not style answers. The better approach for this would be UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to save or discard these changes?' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Discard' translated Although this has slightly different semantics (but was what Mariano suggested he wanted). To retain the semantics it could look like this instead... UIManager default confirm: 'Changes have not been saved.\Would you like to discard these changes or cancel the navigation?' translated withCRs trueChoice: 'Save' translated falseChoice: 'Cancel' translated Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" <renggli(a)gmail.com> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] OBConfirmationRequest without cancel and input That's a bug in Polymorph. I don't know why it displays an input box for simple selections? Lukas 2010/7/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > I even think > > PluggableTextMorph >> promptForCancel > "Ask if it is OK to cancel changes to text" > (self confirm: > 'Changes have not been saved. > Is it OK to cancel those changes?' translated) > ifTrue: [model clearUserEditFlag]. > > > is better ;) > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> sorry, I attach picture. >> >> On Sun, Jul 1orry8, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lukas. I was taking a look to the OBDefinitionPanel >> aboutToChange: >>> >>> because it sucks for me those popups. >>> First, it has a TWO cancel option, and an input (to type and subselect >>> items from the menu) that has no sense for two only options. >>> >>> So, I would like something simple. I want a popup with a label: >>> "'Changes >>> have not been saved." and two simple buttons: "save" and "discard". >>> Not hirzontal selection lines, but buttons. >>> >>> I take a look into the methods and hierrarchy of OBInteractionRequest >>> but >>> I didn't find how to do it. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any hints you can give me. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Bug in DateAndTime?

by Max Leske

Hi. Evaluating: DateAndTime now asUnixTime and then creating a DateAndTime object from the result: DateAndTime fromUnixTime: <seconds> does not yield an equivalent object. As far as I can tell, this is because the unix epoch is hard coded in two places: DateAndTime class>>unixEpoch "Answer a DateAndTime representing the Unix epoch (1 January 1970, midnight UTC)" ^ self basicNew ticks: #(2440588 0 0) offset: Duration zero; yourself. DateAndTime>>fromUnixTime: anInteger ^ self fromSeconds: anInteger + 2177452800 "unix epoch constant" So in the end I get a difference of 7200 seconds. I'll gladly open up a bug but can someone please confirm that this is actually a bug and that I didn't miss something? Cheers, Max

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Once I wrote this: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/CodeEditing/SmartCharactersAutocompletio… On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:26 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Can you let us know which versions? image? you are talking about. > May be the preference was not created. > If this is the case create a bug entry report. > > Stef > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > > In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting > > (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). > > > > I don't see one for Pharo. It appears to be stuck on. > > > > I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, > > and my annoyance level is greatly increased. > > > > It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). > > > > Where's the preference? > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 > 0095 > > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [smalltalk-research] [Survey] Assess the cycles in your software

by Laval Jannik

Hi Lukas, The question should be: How many packages are contained in the software you want to analyze ? I change it and commit a new version. Thank you Lukas. Cheers, Jannik On Jul 19, 2010, at 11:22 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > Hi Jannik, > > I can't parse: > > "How much do you think the number of packages of the software?" > > How much what? What is the question? > > Lukas > > On 19 July 2010 08:36, Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Pharoers, and Smalltalkers in general, >> >> Have you seen waited to assess the cycles in your software? Now you can :) >> >> We request some of you to perform an experiment using DSM to see your software package structure and to fix cycles between packages. Our tool shows dependencies between packages and highlight some bad dependencies generating structure cycles. It also helps to understand dependencies. >> >> Your goal is to fill a survey using our tool. >> I prepared a mini-tutorial about DSM and eDSM. It can help you to understand the visualization tool. >> >> To ease the use of our tool, I loaded it in a PharoCore1.2. And there are two archives available: >> - the first contains an image with our tool with a model of Pharo loaded in it, so you can play with our tool on pharo itself. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithPharo.zip. Pay attention, the image is slow. >> - the second contains the same thing without the model of Pharo. Here, you have to load your code, then populate a moose model and use the tool. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithoutPharo.zip >> The two archives contain the tutorial and the survey. If you are a pharo integrator, we suggest you to take the one with Pharo model loaded, else the other. >> >> To use our tool, load your tool in Pharo. Then do "MoosePanel open", and import your software in Moose by "import from Smalltalk image". When it is imported, select your project in the list on the left of MoosePanel, and select "all model packages" on the list on center. >> >> Then, you have two choices: >> - you can scan all your project: right click on "all model packages" and do DSM. >> - or select "all model packages" then select some packages in the next list and right click, do DSM. >> >> After that, you can perform the survey (with reading of the tutorial). We need your answers for the end of August. So, you have two months to do it. >> >> If you have any question, just let me know. >> >> Best regards, >> Jannik. >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA >> Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr >> --- >> >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch --- Jannik Laval

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Vm-dev] [ANN] SqueakSSL - a platform interface for SSL/TLS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes this is cool! Stef On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Geoffroy Couprie wrote: > Here are some great news :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM > Subject: [Vm-dev] [ANN] SqueakSSL - a platform interface for SSL/TLS > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > > > Folks - > > Since the weekend is over I've decided to release what I got so far and consequently I'm happy to announce the availability of a new interface to the platform SSL/TLS facilities for Squeak. SqueakSSL is a plugin-based approach which utilizes the platform implementation; currently the SCHANNEL SSPI on Windows and OpenSSL on Unix. > > To use SqueakSSL you need the following pieces: > 1) The plugin for your platform. For Windows, you can download the plugin from > > http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakSSL.zip > > For Unix you'll have to compile your own; I'm attaching the relevant part of the platforms tree. Mac support is currently not provided but the OpenSSL based version can probably be adapted for Macs. > > 2) The SqueakSSL source code and tests. All of this can be found at > > http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakSSL.html > > You need SqueakSSL-Core for the code and SqueakSSL-Tests for the unit tests (SqueakSSL-Plugin is the plugin source which you don't need and which we'll probably push into VMMaker). > > Once you've downloaded and installed everything correctly, you should be able to try SqueakSSL via the google example, which makes a query to encrypted.google.com: > > SqueakSSL google: 'Squeak'. > > If the query fails your plugin is probably not installed correctly (it seems unlikely that Google's cert has an issue :-) > > 3) For further tests (incl. the unit tests) you will need to provide a server certificate that can be used by SqueakSSL. On Unix you can do that using the openssl command line tools and once you've generated your cert, you can tell SqueakSSLTest to use the cert. On Windows the process is a bit more involved - you need to have a valid cert AND have it installed in the local certificate store (a description can be found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816794 but make sure you install it in your *user* account not the computer account). Once you have the cert installed, you can run the unit tests which should now succeed. > > Obviously, this is an early release and there's plenty of work that remains to be done, so help is welcome. However, it is starting to become useful and consequently I'm intending to update WebServer and WebClient soon for HTTPS support. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > > <SqueakSSL-Unix.zip>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by Lukas Renggli

> Ok (even if this is not really that bad than not been able to recover class definition). > do you have cycle to revert the changes? I'll try to do it later this afternoon. It really annoys me :-) > Hernan can you help there? > Stef > > >> Also the new/broken behavior of the Monticello Browser that screws up >> the ancestry when the username/password is wrong is a showstopper. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 19 July 2010 00:00, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> HI guys >>> >>> I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. >>> >>> So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > I've added: > - native host menus for Mac to the list. > - Packages remodularization > - New help system > > What are the most important improvements/changes of 1.1 that we can point out on the website and in the announcement of the new release? general speed up and lot of improvements :) > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:33 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Hi. We are very near to release 1.1. We need help to remember all we all >> have been doing on it ;) >> >> Here is the current list: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotOne >> >> Please, feel free to add/modify actions. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok (even if this is not really that bad than not been able to recover class definition). do you have cycle to revert the changes? Hernan can you help there? Stef > Also the new/broken behavior of the Monticello Browser that screws up > the ancestry when the username/password is wrong is a showstopper. > > Lukas > > On 19 July 2010 00:00, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >> HI guys >> >> I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. >> >> So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Can you let us know which versions? image? you are talking about. May be the preference was not created. If this is the case create a bug entry report. Stef On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting > (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). > > I don't see one for Pharo. It appears to be stuck on. > > I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, > and my annoyance level is greatly increased. > > It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). > > Where's the preference? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Thanks for all the pointers. I am now testing on Mac using the Actual driver: http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php I managed to get it running, but now I have problems with the ODBC Pharo implementation because there seems to be no module for Mac: ODBCLibrary class>>moduleName "Return the name of the module for this library" SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'Win32' ifTrue: [ ^ 'odbc32' ]. SmalltalkImage current platformName = 'unix' ifTrue: [ ^ 'libodbc.so' ]. ^ self error: 'Don''t know the ODBC library name' Is there something to be done in this area? Cheers, Doru On 19 Jul 2010, at 01:04, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Yes, Indeed, I mean, I used a driver to access, but can't remember now > the brand, but I'm sure I not payed for it :) > > May be I used some trial version.... > > 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >> >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> Not, I'm not talking of propietary software. >>> >>> I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the >>> odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this >>> http://www.unixodbc.org/ ? >> >> ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, >> then it >> won't help. >> >> >> Levente >> >>> >>> About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life.... >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tudor: >>>>> >>>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >>>> >>>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only >>>> know a >>>> driver >>>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >>>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're >>>> interested. >>>> >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>>>> >>>>> Cheers. >>>>> GermÃ¡n. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads >>>>>>> well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> next? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, >>>>>>> how would >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> do that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get >>>>>>> the C >>>>>>> calls >>>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>>>> >>>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create >>>>>> an ODBC >>>>>> Data >>>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a >>>>>> connection >>>>>> to >>>>>> that datasource from your image. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Levente >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from >>>>>>>> Pharo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Levente >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to >>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>> her." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing should have the right to be different."

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Deployment on Pharo

by nullPointer

Excuse me for my poor english. I want implement a mechanism of deploy in Pharo. The objetive is obtain one file with VM and Image mergeds. I believe than in MACOS is easy, only is needed put the image file into the "VM" folder and create a zip with a link to APPs folder. In Windows the idea is merge VM and image in one file and create a classical windows installer. Exists some previous work do it for deployment? I see for example images "One click" for mac. Regards -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Deployment-on-Pharo-tp2293677p2293677.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by Hilaire Fernandes

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 One indication I need: how can I change the automatic color scheme on dialog and window, I want selected and unselected windows/dialogs with the same canvas color. Hilaire Le 18/07/2010 22:28, Gary Chambers a Ã©crit : > No problem. I can review/help. > > Regards, Gary -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxECxQACgkQSAvrR6lz6PTR+ACfb7yEMjgNQtEPXpJqzylAfC6y j0YAn0t+MouSUH6Mj0f6n11mENj56JK0 =8RFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [Vm-dev] [ANN] SqueakSSL - a platform interface for SSL/TLS

by Geoffroy Couprie

Here are some great news :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> Date: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:13 AM Subject: [Vm-dev] [ANN] SqueakSSL - a platform interface for SSL/TLS To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list < squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> Folks - Since the weekend is over I've decided to release what I got so far and consequently I'm happy to announce the availability of a new interface to the platform SSL/TLS facilities for Squeak. SqueakSSL is a plugin-based approach which utilizes the platform implementation; currently the SCHANNEL SSPI on Windows and OpenSSL on Unix. To use SqueakSSL you need the following pieces: 1) The plugin for your platform. For Windows, you can download the plugin from http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakSSL.zip For Unix you'll have to compile your own; I'm attaching the relevant part of the platforms tree. Mac support is currently not provided but the OpenSSL based version can probably be adapted for Macs. 2) The SqueakSSL source code and tests. All of this can be found at http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakSSL.html You need SqueakSSL-Core for the code and SqueakSSL-Tests for the unit tests (SqueakSSL-Plugin is the plugin source which you don't need and which we'll probably push into VMMaker). Once you've downloaded and installed everything correctly, you should be able to try SqueakSSL via the google example, which makes a query to encrypted.google.com: SqueakSSL google: 'Squeak'. If the query fails your plugin is probably not installed correctly (it seems unlikely that Google's cert has an issue :-) 3) For further tests (incl. the unit tests) you will need to provide a server certificate that can be used by SqueakSSL. On Unix you can do that using the openssl command line tools and once you've generated your cert, you can tell SqueakSSLTest to use the cert. On Windows the process is a bit more involved - you need to have a valid cert AND have it installed in the local certificate store (a description can be found at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816794 but make sure you install it in your *user* account not the computer account). Once you have the cert installed, you can run the unit tests which should now succeed. Obviously, this is an early release and there's plenty of work that remains to be done, so help is welcome. However, it is starting to become useful and consequently I'm intending to update WebServer and WebClient soon for HTTPS support. Cheers, - Andreas

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] help to update actions done in Pharo 1.1

by Adrian Lienhard

I've added: - native host menus for Mac to the list. - Packages remodularization - New help system What are the most important improvements/changes of 1.1 that we can point out on the website and in the announcement of the new release? Cheers, Adrian On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:33 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi. We are very near to release 1.1. We need help to remember all we all > have been doing on it ;) > > Here is the current list: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotOne > > Please, feel free to add/modify actions. > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Markup Builder in Smalltalk Alpha 2.0

by Sudhakar Krishnamachari

Usable first alpha version with refactoring fixes to make it a cleaner base. http://skrishnamachari.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/markupbuilder-alpha-2-0/ http://squeaksource.com/PharoGoodies/MarkupBuilder-Skrish.alpha.2.0.mcz HtmlBuilderTableWidget is fairly fleshed out as an example of component that is flexible and extensible with a plugin system Working on Forms to make it like RAILS.. Integrated MarkupBuilder with Seaside examples in Tests.. * Read through MarkupBuilder-Tests for all reqd examples * Launch Seaside and register all the subclasses of HtmlBuilderComponent (class>>initialize) to see the examples live on browser with code and source from http://localhost:8080/seaside Comments are hugely welcome to make it more useable/ core for as many as can use it.. and reach the release 1.0 sooner.

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] [Survey] Assess the cycles in your software

by Laval Jannik

Hi Pharoers, and Smalltalkers in general, Have you seen waited to assess the cycles in your software? Now you can :) We request some of you to perform an experiment using DSM to see your software package structure and to fix cycles between packages. Our tool shows dependencies between packages and highlight some bad dependencies generating structure cycles. It also helps to understand dependencies. Your goal is to fill a survey using our tool. I prepared a mini-tutorial about DSM and eDSM. It can help you to understand the visualization tool. To ease the use of our tool, I loaded it in a PharoCore1.2. And there are two archives available: - the first contains an image with our tool with a model of Pharo loaded in it, so you can play with our tool on pharo itself. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithPharo.zip. Pay attention, the image is slow. - the second contains the same thing without the model of Pharo. Here, you have to load your code, then populate a moose model and use the tool. It can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7739334/dsmWithoutPharo.zip The two archives contain the tutorial and the survey. If you are a pharo integrator, we suggest you to take the one with Pharo model loaded, else the other. To use our tool, load your tool in Pharo. Then do "MoosePanel open", and import your software in Moose by "import from Smalltalk image". When it is imported, select your project in the list on the left of MoosePanel, and select "all model packages" on the list on center. Then, you have two choices: - you can scan all your project: right click on "all model packages" and do DSM. - or select "all model packages" then select some packages in the next list and right click, do DSM. After that, you can perform the survey (with reading of the tutorial). We need your answers for the end of August. So, you have two months to do it. If you have any question, just let me know. Best regards, Jannik. --- Jannik Laval PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://rmod.lille.inria.fr ---

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by Lukas Renggli

Also the new/broken behavior of the Monticello Browser that screws up the ancestry when the username/password is wrong is a showstopper. Lukas On 19 July 2010 00:00, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > HI guys > > I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. > > So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Lukas Renggli

The new one-click image is based on the Pharo-Dev images. Various people seem to have reported issues with these images, please create bug reports (in addition to reporting them here). You can still download the images from my build server if you want. They are built on Pharo-Core 1.1, they are configured to my personal likings and I use them daily. The setting in question is definitely there. Previous one-click images were based on these images. http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Seaside%203.0/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifa… Lukas On 19 July 2010 08:08, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> writes: > > Lukas> Â Â World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> > Lukas> Smart Characters > > No such thing in the Seaside One-click image. Â Just an abbreviated > "settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters. > > Lukas> Alternatively: > > Lukas> Â Â ECPreferences smartCharacters: false > > I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real > preferences browser. > > It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this. Â Or maybe fortunate, > so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes > you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all > selectable. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

>>>>> "Lukas" == Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> writes: Lukas> World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> Lukas> Smart Characters No such thing in the Seaside One-click image. Just an abbreviated "settings" browser that doesn't include smart characters. Lukas> Alternatively: Lukas> ECPreferences smartCharacters: false I found "PreferencesBrowser open" (doit), which opens the real preferences browser. It's unfortunate that I had to struggle with this. Or maybe fortunate, so that whomever is building this crippled image learns that sometimes you can't predict all preferences, so maybe you ought to leave them all selectable. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by Lukas Renggli

World -> System -> Settings -> Code browsing -> eCompletion -> Smart Characters Alternatively: ECPreferences smartCharacters: false On 19 July 2010 03:36, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> wrote: > > In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting > (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). > > I don't see one for Pharo. Â It appears to be stuck on. > > I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, > and my annoyance level is greatly increased. > > It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). > > Where's the preference? > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Unicode everywhere

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

This is a newbie question. I really don't understand the issue with Unicode and the image/vm/os in Pharo/SqueakVM/Linux,Windows. I searched the lists for references to utf-8 and the long discussions about leadingChar encodings convert*Encoding methods Strings WideStrings Text DisplayText WAKom and WAKomEncoded keyboard input text file input/output vm's -encoding -textenc options So, the people that know about this things, can you please give a newbie explanation about this. What is needed for we users to: 1. Input text by keyboard with accents (and maybe in the language of Mordor too) and they look not like a diamond with a ? sign in the image system browser. 2. This text be correctly send to a modern web browser and rendered in utf-8 encoding correctly. 3. Upload a java messages bundle (or a file with characters outside ASCII) with a web browser posted to a Seaside application, stored temporaly in disk on the server and processed correctly (by opening it with some FileStream class) inside the image. Or is this really hard to do and I'm asking for the imposible? I understand that there are performance issues with full unicode image/vm but supposing that premature optimization rule applies here, what we need to do to achieve this (utopian maybe) goal? Why the question, because I put some strings inside the image (they look fine as I type them). Then I used them to put labels in my Seaside app. In the image I typed and saw in a code browser: BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n But the web browser (firefox) I see: Bï¿½squeda de informaciï¿½n If I change the web browser encoding to iso8859-1 I see it correctly. Now if I evaluate 'BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n' convertToEncoding: 'utf-8' this gives: 'BÃÂºsqueda de informaciÃÂ³n' and if I use this weird, uneditable by hand, string as the string for my Seaside app, I correctly see the string in the web browser: BÃºsqueda de informaciÃ³n. So, I really don't understand. Should I always write my strings in the image as I want them, use convertToEncoding: method and use the output as if that were my string? Well, thanks for your answers. P.S. I am using pharo core 1.0, Seaside 2.8 and squeakvm version: 4.0.3-2202 #1 XShm Sat Apr 17 18:21:07 UTC 2010 gcc 4.4.3 in a 64 bit Debian Linux with full utf-8 locale: miguel@laptop:~/proyectos/azteca$ locale LANG=es_MX.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_TIME="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_NAME="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_MX.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Cheers -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by jaayer

---- On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:46:48 -0700 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote ---- > > #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance. > > I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the '' > > Cheers, > Alexandre Oops. Good catch.

July 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] how do I turn off "smart" quotes in Pharo Seaside one-click image

by merlyn＠stonehenge.com

In Squeak, the preference pane includes a "smart quotes" setting (defaulting on, so I turn it off immediately). I don't see one for Pharo. It appears to be stuck on. I need to turn this feature off, or my typing speed drastically reduces, and my annoyance level is greatly increased. It's not under Editing (Smart Updating isn't it). Where's the preference? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion

July 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Yes, Indeed, I mean, I used a driver to access, but can't remember now the brand, but I'm sure I not payed for it :) May be I used some trial version.... 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Not, I'm not talking of propietary software. >> >> I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the >> odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this >> http://www.unixodbc.org/ ? > > ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, then it > won't help. > > > Levente > >> >> About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life.... >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>> >>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tudor: >>>> >>>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >>> >>> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a >>> driver >>> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >>> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>>> >>>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> GermÃ¡n. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should >>>>>> do >>>>>> next? >>>>>> >>>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would >>>>>> I >>>>>> do that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>>>> calls >>>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>>> >>>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>>>> Data >>>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>>>> to >>>>> that datasource from your image. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Levente >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know >>>>>>> her." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ================================================= >> GermÃ¡n S. 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July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] showstopper for 1.1

by stephane ducasse

HI guys I checked and Class definition are not logged in the changes file as well as methods removal. So this is clearly a doit missing and we should investigate that. Stef

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by Gary Chambers

No problem. I can review/help. Regards, Gary Sent from my iPad On 18 Jul 2010, at 01:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London? > > Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, changes, Gary or Alain? > > Hilaire > > Le 18/07/2010 12:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> Cool keep pushing >> We will get a smaller and nicer system. >> >> Stef >> On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> It starts to take shape. >>> Here is a note with screen shot >>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha… >>> >>> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge. >>> >>> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Not, I'm not talking of propietary software. > > I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the > odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this > http://www.unixodbc.org/ ? ODBC is just an API, if you don't have a driver for yourdatabase, then it won't help. Levente > > About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life.... > > Cheers. > > > 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> Hi Tudor: >>> >>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >> >> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver >> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. >> >> >> Levente >> >>> >>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>> >>> Cheers. >>> GermÃ¡n. >>> >>> >>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>>> >>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>>>> next? >>>>> >>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>>>> do that? >>>>> >>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>>> calls >>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>> >>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>>> Data >>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>>> to >>>> that datasource from your image. >>>> >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>> >>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>> >>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Levente >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. 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July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, laurent laffont wrote: > 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> > >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >> Hi Tudor: >>> >>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >>> >> >> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver >> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. >> > > On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to > migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding) This looks good and probably works on a Mac too: http://www.automatthew.com/2008/02/how-to-compile-mdbtools-on-mac-os-x.html Levente > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > > >> >> >> Levente >> >> >> >>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>> >>> Cheers. >>> GermÃ¡n. >>> >>> >>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>> >>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>>> >>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>>>> next? >>>>> >>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>>>> do that? >>>>> >>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>>> calls >>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>>> >>>> >>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>>> Data >>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>>> to >>>> that datasource from your image. >>>> >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>> >>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>> >>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Levente >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by laurent laffont

2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > > Hi Tudor: >> >> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >> > > I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver > which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But > there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. > On Linux I've used libmdbodbc from mdbtools http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ to migrate an access database 2 years ago. (using ruby & rubyodbc binding) Cheers, Laurent Laffont > > > Levente > > > >> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >> >>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Mariano! >>>> >>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>> >>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>>> next? >>>> >>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>>> do that? >>>> >>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>> calls >>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>> >>> >>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>> Data >>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>> to >>> that datasource from your image. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>> >>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>> >>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>> >>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Not, I'm not talking of propietary software. I'm talking of one I used when helped Diego with the testing of the odbc package. Don't remember now, but may be this http://www.unixodbc.org/ ? About Mac, sorry, never touched a mac in all my life.... Cheers. 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Hi Tudor: >> >> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). > > I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver > which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But > there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. > > > Levente > >> >> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>> >>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>> >>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>> >>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>>> next? >>>> >>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>>> do that? >>>> >>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>> calls >>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>> >>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>> Data >>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>> to >>> that datasource from your image. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>> >>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>> >>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>> >>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. 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July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Alexandre Bergel

No idea about that. But let us know if you succeed. Good luck, Alexandre On 17 Jul 2010, at 23:35, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? > > I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by Alexandre Bergel

> #test = ' test' evaluates to true, but this is not portable and, as you pointed out, results in a degradation of performance. I am sure Jaayer meant #test = 'test', without space between the '' Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the pointers. > > Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac? Sure: http://www.actualtech.com/product_access.php Note that I have no experience with it, but there's a trial version. Levente > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> Hi Tudor: >>> >>> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >>> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). >> >> I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver >> which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But >> there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. >> >> >> Levente >> >>> >>> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >>> >>> Cheers. >>> GermÃ¡n. >>> >>> >>> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>>> >>>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>>>> next? >>>>> >>>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>>>> do that? >>>>> >>>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C >>>>> calls >>>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>>> >>>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC >>>> Data >>>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection >>>> to >>>> that datasource from your image. >>>> >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>>> >>>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>>> >>>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Levente >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Thanks for the pointers. Levente, could you point me to this driver for mac? Cheers, Doru On 18 Jul 2010, at 20:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Hi Tudor: >> >> Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC >> (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). > > I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a > driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But > there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. > > > Levente > >> >> Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 >> >> Cheers. >> GermÃ¡n. >> >> >> 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >>> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Mariano! >>>> >>>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>>> >>>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I >>>> should do >>>> next? >>>> >>>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how >>>> would I >>>> do that? >>>> >>>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the >>>> C calls >>>> from ODBCLibrary going? >>> >>> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an >>> ODBC Data >>> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a >>> connection to >>> that datasource from your image. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>>> ExternalLibrary >>>>> ExternalStructure" >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>>> >>>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>>> >>>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>>> >>>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from >>>>> Pharo? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to >>>>> know her." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Hi Tudor: > > Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC > (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). I don't know any free ODBC drivers for Access on un*x. I only know a driver which costs 4-5 times more than the windows OS itself :). But there's a driver for mac which costs only 30 usd if you're interested. Levente > > Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. > > > 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: >> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Thanks Mariano! >>> >>> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >>> >>> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >>> next? >>> >>> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >>> do that? >>> >>> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls >>> from ODBCLibrary going? >> >> First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data >> Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to >> that datasource from your image. >> >> >> Levente >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>>> ExternalLibrary >>>> ExternalStructure" >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>>> >>>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>>> >>>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>>> >>>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>>> >>>> Yes, with ODBC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>> >>>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "When people care, great things can happen." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Hi Tudor: Is as Levente says, you must define an ODBC source on a Windows PC (Alternatively on Unix you can use ODBC also). Some examples on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480 Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2010/7/18 Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu>: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Thanks Mariano! >> >> Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. >> >> I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do >> next? >> >> I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I >> do that? >> >> Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls >> from ODBCLibrary going? > > First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data > Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to > that datasource from your image. > > > Levente > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I tried loading it, but I get : >>> "This package depends on the following classes: >>> ExternalLibrary >>> ExternalStructure" >>> >>> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >>> >>> This means that you need Metacello ;) >>> >>> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >>> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >>> >>> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >>> ConfigurationOfFFI. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >>> >>> Yes, with ODBC. >>> >>> >>> Levente >>> >>> >>> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "When people care, great things can happen." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > Thanks Mariano! > > Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. > > I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do > next? > > I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I do > that? > > Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls > from ODBCLibrary going? First you'll need a pc running windows. Then you have to create an ODBC Data Source for your Access file. Then you'll be able to create a connection to that datasource from your image. Levente > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I tried loading it, but I get : >> "This package depends on the following classes: >> ExternalLibrary >> ExternalStructure" >> >> Can anyone tell me where to find these from? >> >> This means that you need Metacello ;) >> >> Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. >> Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... >> >> For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the >> ConfigurationOfFFI. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: >> >> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? >> >> Yes, with ODBC. >> >> >> Levente >> >> >> I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know her." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "When people care, great things can happen." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12061

by stephane ducasse

12061 ----- removing donor and partBin. Stef, gary and marcus :)

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent! tx alex On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:01 PM, jaayer wrote: > > > ---- On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:01:33 -0700 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote ---- > >> is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository? >> >> Stef >> > > Alexandre uploaded two ConfigurationOfXMLSupport packages: http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] connection to access databases

by Tudor Girba

Thanks Mariano! Indeed, if I load ConfigurationOfFFI first, everything loads well. I am a complete newbie in this area. Can anyone tell me what I should do next? I imagine that I should connect to an Access server. If yes, how would I do that? Also, do I need anything else, like a C plugin/library to get the C calls from ODBCLibrary going? Cheers, Doru On 18 Jul 2010, at 09:17, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi, > > I tried loading it, but I get : > "This package depends on the following classes: > ExternalLibrary > ExternalStructure" > > Can anyone tell me where to find these from? > > This means that you need Metacello ;) > > Those classes are from FFI, a pre-requisite for ODBC to work. > Maybe there is a ConfigurationOfODBC somewhere... > > For the moment, I recommend you to install FFI using the > ConfigurationOfFFI. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > Also, are there eternal prerequisites to work with ODBC? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 18 Jul 2010, at 00:35, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a way to connect to a Microsoft Access database from Pharo? > > Yes, with ODBC. > > > Levente > > > I have an mdb file of 300 Mb that I would need to analyze. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Next time you see your life passing by, say 'hi' and get to know > her." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "When people care, great things can happen."

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] pre-built 1.2#12061 Core

by Marcus Denker

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27291/PharoCore-1.2-12061.zip -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] XML Demarshalling (Hern?n Morales Durand)

by jaayer

---- On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:01:33 -0700 StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote ---- >is there a configurationOfXMLParser for metacelloRepository? > >Stef > Alexandre uploaded two ConfigurationOfXMLSupport packages: http://www.squeaksource.com/XMLSupport.html

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] selection in OB browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> It happened to us a lot when we pushed up a method. So you select the method, bring push up and then you go to the next one >> but the list is not selected just the item. >> I got that a lot during our refactoring session. > > Name: OmniBrowser-lr.483 > Author: lr > Time: 18 July 2010, 3:20:03 pm > UUID: f8c1b3df-4fda-4cf2-a533-e721c0cd5088 > Ancestors: OmniBrowser-lr.482 > > - more agressively refresh display when a node disappears > >> BTW lukas could you have >> rename class >>>>> rename class refactoring close to rename class? > > Consistency is more important in my option. Otherwise we have to move > all other refactorings too and we end up with a mess. no no no this is not a question of consistency. this is question of use. Rename class and rename class refactoring should be together. Believe the user. Stef > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12060

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12060 ----- Large cleaning of PasteUpMorph underway Stef

July 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar theme for Pharo Smalltalk

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Thanks for your words. How is going the Smalltalk Camp in London? Great. I'm pair programming with gary and we folded all the XXXPlus into their superclasses and lot more Stef > Next, I will need to change a bit Polymoprh, I want to do it at the upstream level of course, and with someonce who can double check my suggestions, changes, Gary or Alain? > > Hilaire > > Le 18/07/2010 12:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> Cool keep pushing >> We will get a smaller and nicer system. >> >> Stef >> On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> It starts to take shape. >>> Here is a note with screen shot >>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire/index.php?post/2010/07/17/Sugar-theme-fpr-Pha… >>> >>> To conform at best to the Sugar UI, it may need change within Polymorph or very deeper knowledge. >>> >>> There are some aspect in Polymorph as PaneColor I don't really understand well its behavior. >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 18, 2010