June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] A more concise array access (using negative indices)

by Hilaire Fernandes

Niko Schwarz a Ã©crit : > Just to put something on the table, how about: > > (ary at: 1, -2) Or #at: could accept an interval as argument

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] disabling ecompletion in PharoCore-1.1-11383

by Dale Henrichs

Haha, When I'm 101 I'll stop making mistakes....voluntarily! Dale GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > 2010/6/7 Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com>: >> Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >> I finally found #disable: hidden amongst the rest of the methods, but not >> before I completely hosed myself by putting an invalid value into the >> preferences dictionary ... who'd a thunk that putting a false in their would >> totally lock the image and prevent me from doing any typing ...I know, I >> know, I should of saved my image:) >> > > hehe, seems that to all of us, no matter how much experience we have, > from time to time we are very capable of freeze our image and lose > things .. :) > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] GAUCHO 1.0 released!

by Fernando olivero

On Jun 7, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Gabriel Brunstein wrote: > good work!! it looks interesting. have you looked at codebubbles for some ideas? > http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/acb/codebubbles_site.htm > Yes i'm aware of that work, we share some common grounds, but the fundamental difference is conceptual, they interact with "code" bubbles , fragments of code treated as text, and Gaucho deals with abstractions of program entities. > I have a question about this: "They visually represent system components such > as packages, classes, methods, developers, and workspaces." > > can you visually represent instances too? > > Not in this version, 1.0 , but the metaphor and the interaction could be applied to the instance level! Right now we are working on the Class and Meta-class level. But future work could go into that direction, and also debugging programs. Thanks for the comments! Fernando

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A more concise array access (using negative indices)

by Niko Schwarz

Well, I'm just arguing that in Ruby, the simple convention that negative indices start from left to right map to a zoo of different methods in Smalltalk. You didn't comment on: ('hello' from: 2 toFromEnd: 2) should = 'ell' Would that find your blessing? niko On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon(a)allresnet.com> wrote: > On 6/7/2010 5:03 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> >>> Am I the only one who finds the ruby protocol for accessing >>> collections richer at times? In Smalltalk, if ary is an array, how do >>> I get ary without its last element? >> >> anArray allButLast > > Or for other amounts, allButLast: x > > There's also allButFirst and allButFirst: x. Â A look at the protocol of > SequenceableCollection would have revealed this in seconds. > > -- > Ramon Leon > http://onsmalltalk.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] disabling ecompletion in PharoCore-1.1-11383

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

2010/6/7 Dale Henrichs <dhenrich(a)vmware.com>: > Dale Henrichs wrote: > > I finally found #disable: hidden amongst the rest of the methods, but not > before I completely hosed myself by putting an invalid value into the > preferences dictionary ... who'd a thunk that putting a false in their would > totally lock the image and prevent me from doing any typing ...I know, I > know, I should of saved my image:) > hehe, seems that to all of us, no matter how much experience we have, from time to time we are very capable of freeze our image and lose things .. :) Cheers. GermÃ¡n.

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] disabling ecompletion in PharoCore-1.1-11383

by Dale Henrichs

Dale Henrichs wrote: > ecompletion does not show up in the preferences browser so I am at a > loss to turn it off ... it is annoying enough that I've spent a fair > amount of time cruising the image looking for a way to turn off a > preference (plenty of protocol for getting the preference values...) and > I've examined the every option in the preferences browser looking for an > option that makes sense ... I know this is beta and unstable so put my > complaint down to grouchiness:) > > maybe I will have found the magic by the time anyone can answer me:) > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project I finally found #disable: hidden amongst the rest of the methods, but not before I completely hosed myself by putting an invalid value into the preferences dictionary ... who'd a thunk that putting a false in their would totally lock the image and prevent me from doing any typing ...I know, I know, I should of saved my image:) Sorry for the interruption... Dale

June 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] disabling ecompletion in PharoCore-1.1-11383

by Dale Henrichs

ecompletion does not show up in the preferences browser so I am at a loss to turn it off ... it is annoying enough that I've spent a fair amount of time cruising the image looking for a way to turn off a preference (plenty of protocol for getting the preference values...) and I've examined the every option in the preferences browser looking for an option that makes sense ... I know this is beta and unstable so put my complaint down to grouchiness:) maybe I will have found the magic by the time anyone can answer me:) Dale

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A more concise array access (using negative indices)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 7, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Damien Pollet wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 15:23, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> copyFrom: 1 to: does not convey that you should pass the second argument starting reverse. > > Of course, since it's the sign that does thatâ¦ > >> copyFrom: 3 toFromEnd: -2 > > then, why -2 if it's explicitly from the end ??? ah why not. > > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo and stand along GUI projects

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Use a one click image. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of sergio_101 Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 10:52 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] pharo and stand along GUI projects > People go to great lengths to worry about executables. Â As long as we > have good lock-down tools, it is largely a non-issue. Â My one > stand-alone GUI built in Pharo has an icon sitting on my Gnome menu > bar; it points to a shell script that launches the vm with the correct > image - done. Â Most problems I have with my Windows-based my biggest concern about executables is making sure that my users can install and run the program with absolutely no issues.. -- ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary http://www.CodingForHire.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A more concise array access (using negative indices)

by Ramon Leon

On 6/7/2010 5:03 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Am I the only one who finds the ruby protocol for accessing >> collections richer at times? In Smalltalk, if ary is an array, how do >> I get ary without its last element? > > anArray allButLast Or for other amounts, allButLast: x There's also allButFirst and allButFirst: x. A look at the protocol of SequenceableCollection would have revealed this in seconds. -- Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com

June 7, 2010