June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Three current versions: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2

by Adrian Lienhard

I think it's a bad idea to just switch the downloads from 1.0 to 1.1 now. We don't even have a release candidate yet, hence 1.1 hasn't seen much testing. 1.1 may be ok for personal use but is it also safe to be deployed on a mission critical system? I'm all for short release cycles, but please don't take such shortcuts. A high quality is really important if we want to support the companies using Pharo and attract new ones. So the next steps should be: identifying the critical issues (currently there are 179 open issues tagged 1.1!), then fixing them, then we do a first RC. Cheers, Adrian On Jun 8, 2010, at 15:45 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > >> Of course not. Just switch the default download (the big one, all over >> the site) site to 1.1. >> >> I just suggest to switch from 1.0 to 1.1 as stable at the same time >> that we switch from 1.1 to 1.2 for development. > > > I think this is a good idea. > > >> Then we never have 3 >> "current" versions at once. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Niko >> >> -- >> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz >> twitter.com/nes1983 >> Tel: +41 076 235 8683 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo smalltalk for an usb stick

by Hilaire Fernandes

StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> At OFSET (http://www.ofset.org) we are preparing an usb stick with a live linux system installed into it plus free software of interest for teaching. The usb sticks will be for sell during the RMLL 2010 at Bordeaux (http://2010.rmll.info/) >> I proposed to integrate a Pharo environment along some documentation. >> Do you have any suggestion about what we should include into it? >> >> A few list of things to include: > > I'm not sure that 1.1 will be ready for you so if you can put 1.0-dev and 1.1rc-dev What are/is the show stopper? Hilaire

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Niko Schwarz

Done: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2524 2010/6/8 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hmm, not right now, but I'll add it to my someday/maybe list :) > > You can also add it to the someday/maybe Pharo issue tracker....so that > maybe other can do it. That way we don't forget about it. > >> >> Thanks for the offer! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Niko >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > I'll work on it. I wasn't sure if the feature's missing or whether I'd >> > done something wrong. >> > >> > >> > Hi Niko, >> > Indeed, the feature is missing. If you want to work on it, I can provide >> > you >> > write access to the repository. >> > Cheers, >> > Romain >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Niko >> > >> > -- >> > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz >> > twitter.com/nes1983 >> > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 >> > >> > -- >> > Romain Robbes >> > http://romain.robb.es >> > rrobbes(a)dcc.uchile.cl >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz >> twitter.com/nes1983 >> Tel: +41 076 235 8683 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > Hmm, not right now, but I'll add it to my someday/maybe list :) > You can also add it to the someday/maybe Pharo issue tracker....so that maybe other can do it. That way we don't forget about it. > > Thanks for the offer! > > Cheers, > > Niko > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I'll work on it. I wasn't sure if the feature's missing or whether I'd > > done something wrong. > > > > > > Hi Niko, > > Indeed, the feature is missing. If you want to work on it, I can provide > you > > write access to the repository. > > Cheers, > > Romain > > > > Cheers, > > > > Niko > > > > -- > > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz > > twitter.com/nes1983 > > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 > > > > -- > > Romain Robbes > > http://romain.robb.es > > rrobbes(a)dcc.uchile.cl > > > > > > -- > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz > twitter.com/nes1983 > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Niko Schwarz

Hmm, not right now, but I'll add it to my someday/maybe list :) Thanks for the offer! Cheers, Niko On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'll work on it. I wasn't sure if the feature's missing or whether I'd > done something wrong. > > > Hi Niko, > Indeed, the feature is missing. If you want to work on it, I can provide you > write access to the repository. > Cheers, > Romain > > Cheers, > > Niko > > -- > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz > twitter.com/nes1983 > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 > > -- > Romain Robbes > http://romain.robb.es > rrobbes(a)dcc.uchile.cl > -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Romain Robbes

> > I'll work on it. I wasn't sure if the feature's missing or whether I'd > done something wrong. > Hi Niko, Indeed, the feature is missing. If you want to work on it, I can provide you write access to the repository. Cheers, Romain > Cheers, > > Niko > > -- > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz > twitter.com/nes1983 > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 -- Romain Robbes http://romain.robb.es rrobbes(a)dcc.uchile.cl

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Niko Schwarz

2010/6/8 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Maybe you should be more polite in order to receive better feedback. I'll work on it. I wasn't sure if the feature's missing or whether I'd done something wrong. Cheers, Niko -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] short tutorial on Gaucho?

by Fernando olivero

On Jun 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > > On 8 juin 2010, at 16:38, Fernando olivero wrote: > >> Hi Alexander, in the web page http://gaucho.inf.usi.ch/ >> >> you can find several screen casts explaining how to install it, and a bank account tutorial and more ( i still have to produce HD versions and upload them). > > > ah indeed, there are several screencasts when clicking on the 'expand' icon. Bad affordance I would say :) > > I'll make the expand icons stand out more! Because they looked like expand buttons to me, thanks for the advice. If you expand the Releases Section you can see a description of the current release, together with a list of features and the installation script. Fernando

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Auto-Completion in the debugger

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > Why is the auto-completion in the dev images so stupid in the > debugger? Maybe you should be more polite in order to receive better feedback. > Why is it wildly guessing around in a debugger, where the > type of all variables is well known? > The project is open to commit. I cc'ed Romain > I'm using a 1.1 beta image (non-core): > > http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27025/Pharo-1.1-11367-Betadev10.05.… > . > > Niko > > -- > http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz > twitter.com/nes1983 > Tel: +41 076 235 8683 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Three current versions: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+1 We should go soon on rc1 for 1.1 Stef > > I just suggest to switch from 1.0 to 1.1 as stable at the same time > that we switch from 1.1 to 1.2 for development. Then we never have 3 > "current" versions at once. > > Cheers, > > Niko

June 8, 2010