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Re: [Pharo-project] little fix for Slice

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks patrick! I ahve to check because I did not find your license agreement but I will look better in my paper stack! On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Patrick Barroca wrote: > Hi, > > After the first fix published during last sprint I just posted to > PharoInbox another slice with a little bugfix and input validations. > > Name: SLICE-Issue-2478-NicerSliceCreationContinued-PatrickBarroca.1 > Author: PatrickBarroca > Time: 8 June 2010, 11:31:49 pm > UUID: e7e7182b-1145-584b-ac24-9db73c5ff46c > Ancestors: > Dependencies: MonticelloGUI-PatrickBarroca.60, > Collections-Strings-PatrickBarroca.121 > > Nicer slice creation with input validations > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> hi all >> >> Does any of you want to help? with a little exercise? >> >> It would be nice to help the user to provide coherent slice name >> I suggest >> >> SLICE-number-title >> >> title with only alphanumberical-characters >> any taker? >> >> because this would be cool to get another step forward >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2478 >> >> Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Patrick Barroca > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Three current versions: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > I think it's a bad idea to just switch the downloads from 1.0 to 1.1 now. We don't even have a release candidate yet, hence 1.1 hasn't seen much testing. 1.1 may be ok for personal use but is it also safe to be deployed on a mission critical system? I'm all for short release cycles, but please don't take such shortcuts. A high quality is really important if we want to support the companies using Pharo and attract new ones. We can keep 1.0 download but we will issue 1.1 rc now. > So the next steps should be: identifying the critical issues (currently there are 179 open issues tagged 1.1!), then fixing them, then we do a first RC. We will not fix all these issues but moved them to 1.2. Since most of them exit in 1.0 and you can work with them I do not see why suddenly we should fix them in 1.1 especially just before the release. So stability also means that you should not change the system at wrong moment. And now this is not the moment to change it. Stef > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Jun 8, 2010, at 15:45 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote: >> >>> Of course not. Just switch the default download (the big one, all over >>> the site) site to 1.1. >>> >>> I just suggest to switch from 1.0 to 1.1 as stable at the same time >>> that we switch from 1.1 to 1.2 for development. >> >> >> I think this is a good idea. >> >> >>> Then we never have 3 >>> "current" versions at once. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Niko >>> >>> -- >>> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz >>> twitter.com/nes1983 >>> Tel: +41 076 235 8683 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] pharo smalltalk for an usb stick

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

None this is just that we should do the releaseCandidate 1. We will do that after lunch with marcus. Stef On Jun 8, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> At OFSET (http://www.ofset.org) we are preparing an usb stick with a live linux system installed into it plus free software of interest for teaching. The usb sticks will be for sell during the RMLL 2010 at Bordeaux (http://2010.rmll.info/) >>> I proposed to integrate a Pharo environment along some documentation. >>> Do you have any suggestion about what we should include into it? >>> >>> A few list of things to include: >> I'm not sure that 1.1 will be ready for you so if you can put 1.0-dev and 1.1rc-dev > > > What are/is the show stopper? > > Hilaire > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 9, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Resolving dependencies during installation

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ MartÃnez

El mar, 08-06-2010 a las 18:13 -0400, Andrei Stebakov escribiÃ³: > I've come across this a few times using Pharo: > When I try to install a new package (either through HTTP repository or > Gofer) sometimes it complains about a dependency and you have a option > to proceed or abandon. > I guess proceeding could be dangerous in this case since you never > know when this missing dependency will backfire. > What's the general rule of how to look for a package with the missing class(es)? > Let's say I was trying to install Pastell (XPath library) via > repository and during installation I had the message: > > This package depends on the following classes: > XMLNodeWithElements > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > XMLNodeWithElements>>/ > XMLNodeWithElements>>// > XMLNodeWithElements>>child: > XMLNodeWithElements>>children > XMLNodeWithElements>>descendant: > XMLNodeWithElements>>doesNotUnderstand: > > Where do I go look for a package with this class implemented? > Shouldn't the package being installed check for its dependencies and > install them prior to its own installation (or at least give you a > hint where this missing class belongs)? That's what Metacello is fixing for the end users. The maintainer of a package knows or can learn the dependencies needed for a given package to work in a given Pharo release. So he/she build a ConfigurationOfXXX metacello configuration stating those dependencies. Then he announces the ConfigurationOfXXX in the list and add them to the metacello repository on squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository for the world to use. >From that point on, the users use the ConfigurationOfXXX to install a package and the package knows its dependencies and install them before the package they want. Cheers > > Thank you, > Andrei > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

June 9, 2010

[Pharo-project] Resolving dependencies during installation

by Andrei Stebakov

I've come across this a few times using Pharo: When I try to install a new package (either through HTTP repository or Gofer) sometimes it complains about a dependency and you have a option to proceed or abandon. I guess proceeding could be dangerous in this case since you never know when this missing dependency will backfire. What's the general rule of how to look for a package with the missing class(es)? Let's say I was trying to install Pastell (XPath library) via repository and during installation I had the message: This package depends on the following classes: XMLNodeWithElements You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: XMLNodeWithElements>>/ XMLNodeWithElements>>// XMLNodeWithElements>>child: XMLNodeWithElements>>children XMLNodeWithElements>>descendant: XMLNodeWithElements>>doesNotUnderstand: Where do I go look for a package with this class implemented? Shouldn't the package being installed check for its dependencies and install them prior to its own installation (or at least give you a hint where this missing class belongs)? Thank you, Andrei

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] little fix for Slice

by Patrick Barroca

Hi, After the first fix published during last sprint I just posted to PharoInbox another slice with a little bugfix and input validations. Name: SLICE-Issue-2478-NicerSliceCreationContinued-PatrickBarroca.1 Author: PatrickBarroca Time: 8 June 2010, 11:31:49 pm UUID: e7e7182b-1145-584b-ac24-9db73c5ff46c Ancestors: Dependencies: MonticelloGUI-PatrickBarroca.60, Collections-Strings-PatrickBarroca.121 Nicer slice creation with input validations On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:57 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > hi all > > Does any of you want to help? with a little exercise? > > It would be nice to help the user to provide coherent slice name > I suggest > > SLICE-number-title > > title with only alphanumberical-characters > any taker? > > because this would be cool to get another step forward > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2478 > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Patrick Barroca

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharocasts: GUI - Proportional layout

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:43 PM, lemuus <lemuus(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hello, > i had been trying the scripts in screencast, but there is a problem with > the colors, when you are using the SystemWindow to create the window, > and when the window is out of focus the color changes to blue, is it not > better to use StandardWindow instead?. > With StandardWindow all the colors look fine. > StandardWindow is a subclass of SystemWindow which implements TEasilyThemed (Trait providing useful theme-related methods). I've seen the blue color in Pharo 1.1, works fine in Pharo 1.0 ... maybe related to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=654 ? I've filled this issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2525 Thanks for report. Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > Saludos, > Daniel. > El dom, 06-06-2010 a las 21:35 +0200, laurent laffont escribiÃ³: > > Hi, > > > > > > here's the screencast based on the GUI layout section of the Pharo > > book. > > > > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/06/proportional-layout.html > > > > > > > > > > I found a better (but not perfect) tool to edit subtitles on Linux: > > Jubler http://www.jubler.org/ , it's cross-platform. > > See http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/105/26/ > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Laurent Laffont > > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Has anybody got DBX working in Pharo?

by Richard Durr

Cool, thanks. :) Answers asFollows! > Which OS of the database and which OS for the database client Mac OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard, build in Sqlite - Which Pharo VM and image Squeak Beta 4.2, Pharo 1.0 - How did you install SqueakDBX? ConfigurationOfSqueakDBX 1.1 - Which is exactly the error? all tests fail with unable to find library - Did you install OpenDBX? compiling or installing the binaries? configure for sqlite, then make; make install - Did you install the database client libraries? I thought it would use the Sqlite Libraries of OS X. 2010/6/8 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Richard, yes, SqueakDBX is working on Pharo. As you noticed, you need the > OpenDBX libraries AND the database client libraries. > > If you give me more details I will be happy to help you: > > - Which OS of the database and which OS for the database client > - Which Pharo VM and image > - How did you install SqueakDBX? > - Which is exactly the error? > - Did you install OpenDBX? compiling or installing the binaries? > - Did you install the database client libraries? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Richard Durr <richard.durr(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: >> >> I tried but it allways fails, because it cannot load the opendbx >> libraries. I already tried the methods stated on their site but to no >> luck. >> RD >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharocasts: GUI - Proportional layout

by lemuus

hello, i had been trying the scripts in screencast, but there is a problem with the colors, when you are using the SystemWindow to create the window, and when the window is out of focus the color changes to blue, is it not better to use StandardWindow instead?. With StandardWindow all the colors look fine. Saludos, Daniel. El dom, 06-06-2010 a las 21:35 +0200, laurent laffont escribiÃ³: > Hi, > > > here's the screencast based on the GUI layout section of the Pharo > book. > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/06/proportional-layout.html > > > > > I found a better (but not perfect) tool to edit subtitles on Linux: > Jubler http://www.jubler.org/ , it's cross-platform. > See http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/105/26/ > > > Cheers, > > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Three current versions: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

+1 -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Adrian Lienhard Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:53 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Three current versions: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 I think it's a bad idea to just switch the downloads from 1.0 to 1.1 now. We don't even have a release candidate yet, hence 1.1 hasn't seen much testing. 1.1 may be ok for personal use but is it also safe to be deployed on a mission critical system? I'm all for short release cycles, but please don't take such shortcuts. A high quality is really important if we want to support the companies using Pharo and attract new ones. So the next steps should be: identifying the critical issues (currently there are 179 open issues tagged 1.1!), then fixing them, then we do a first RC. Cheers, Adrian On Jun 8, 2010, at 15:45 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com>wrote: > >> Of course not. Just switch the default download (the big one, all >> over the site) site to 1.1. >> >> I just suggest to switch from 1.0 to 1.1 as stable at the same time >> that we switch from 1.1 to 1.2 for development. > > > I think this is a good idea. > > >> Then we never have 3 >> "current" versions at once. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Niko >> >> -- >> http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz >> twitter.com/nes1983 >> Tel: +41 076 235 8683 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 8, 2010