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[Pharo-project] Help menu disappeared [WAS] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by Torsten Bergmann

Stef wrote >this is in system>help >because we do not want a long menu and the help got in our way several times. The only constant is change but one theory on why M$ Office is so famous and widespread is that they do not change menues so often. Ask your secretary ... ;) Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Help menu disappeared [WAS] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is in system>help because we do not want a long menu and the help got in our way several times. Stef On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2010/6/14 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi folks. There is a new Pharo 1.1 rc2 image for beta testing. It is based in PharoCore rc2 11400. > > Help menu is gone ? > > Thanks for reporting. Yes, it seems to have disappeared. I have just checked in PharoCore 11400 and it is not there neither. So, it is not "Dev" fault at least. > > Was fixed in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2442 > > Maybe re integrate it ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > Laurent Laffont > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > A little remark is that this is the first release candidate, not the second one. There was a problem when building the PharoCore rc1 and thus, we used PharoCore RC2. To be concistent we call it Pharo 1.1 rc2 to this image. > > We are getting closer to the stable release of Pharo 1.1 so we would really appreaciate any kind of feedback. Use it, load your packages and applications, run tests, etc. > > The download link is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27159/Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2dev10.06.… > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] Help menu disappeared [WAS] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/6/14 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi folks. There is a new Pharo 1.1 rc2 image for beta testing. It is based >> in PharoCore rc2 11400. >> > > Help menu is gone ? > Thanks for reporting. Yes, it seems to have disappeared. I have just checked in PharoCore 11400 and it is not there neither. So, it is not "Dev" fault at least. > Was fixed in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2442 > Maybe re integrate it ? Cheers Mariano > > Laurent Laffont > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > >> >> A little remark is that this is the first release candidate, not the >> second one. There was a problem when building the PharoCore rc1 and thus, we >> used PharoCore RC2. To be concistent we call it Pharo 1.1 rc2 to this image. >> >> We are getting closer to the stable release of Pharo 1.1 so we would >> really appreaciate any kind of feedback. Use it, load your packages and >> applications, run tests, etc. >> >> The download link is: >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27159/Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2dev10.06.… >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by laurent laffont

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi folks. There is a new Pharo 1.1 rc2 image for beta testing. It is based > in PharoCore rc2 11400. > Help menu is gone ? Was fixed in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2442 Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > A little remark is that this is the first release candidate, not the second > one. There was a problem when building the PharoCore rc1 and thus, we used > PharoCore RC2. To be concistent we call it Pharo 1.1 rc2 to this image. > > We are getting closer to the stable release of Pharo 1.1 so we would really > appreaciate any kind of feedback. Use it, load your packages and > applications, run tests, etc. > > The download link is: > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27159/Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2dev10.06.… > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > >

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] First GemStone, now Dabbled DB ...

by Geert Claes

Chris Muller-3 wrote: > > DabbleDB is not the only Smalltalk casualty here, but, apparently, too, > Avi himself. Will Twitter use any of Smallthought's Smalltalk-based > technology? It appears, to me, they're intent on eventually shutting it > all down. 60 days doesn't seem like a lot of time for a large customer to > find a new system, wow... > Casualty? I don't think so, Avi is a smart cookie and I am sure he'll wow the folks at Twitter :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/First-GemStone-now-Dabbled-DB-tp2251325p2253958.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

mariano I suggest that we remove the newinspector from the dev tools because this is still really strange to use it. Stef On Jun 13, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. There is a new Pharo 1.1 rc2 image for beta testing. It is based in PharoCore rc2 11400. > > A little remark is that this is the first release candidate, not the second one. There was a problem when building the PharoCore rc1 and thus, we used PharoCore RC2. To be concistent we call it Pharo 1.1 rc2 to this image. > > We are getting closer to the stable release of Pharo 1.1 so we would really appreaciate any kind of feedback. Use it, load your packages and applications, run tests, etc. > > The download link is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27159/Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2dev10.06.… > > Cheers > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smallthought FUD

by James Foster

On Jun 13, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Chris Muller wrote: > DabbleDB is not the only Smalltalk casualty here, but, apparently, > too, Avi himself. Will Twitter use any of Smallthought's > Smalltalk-based technology? It appears, to me, they're intent on > eventually shutting it all down. 60 days doesn't seem like a lot of > time for a large customer to find a new system, wow... I have no inside information, but the above seems me to be unwarranted. First, the style comes across as "assume the worst and place the burden on the other party to clear up the confusion." Can't we give someone who has done so much for our community the benefit of the doubt? Next, if you read the public announcements, it seems evident that the primary value was an analytics tool (and the people who built it), not a Seaside application. True, we haven't heard much about the technology behind Trendly, but why are you assuming it isn't Smalltalk? What language would you use if you were doing complex data analysis? It isn't like they got bought by Microsoft because they have demonstrated proficiency with C#. You might read the promise to "for now, we will continue to provide our software and technical supports" as "intent on eventually shutting it all down," but I read it as "change is coming, but we haven't determined exactly the direction." As to possible transitions over some future 60 day period, my understanding of the customer base is that there is no "large customer." The whole model of the system is focused on small data sets. Perhaps nothing could fully replace DabbleDB, but that doesn't mean that the people that have had the benefit of it are worse off if they eventually have to return to a less useful alternative. Again, I have no information beyond what Avi and others have shared at conferences. I just choose to rejoice in the much-deserved success of a respected member of our community. James

June 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] First GemStone, now Dabbled DB ...

by Igor Stasenko

On 14 June 2010 02:33, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: > DabbleDB is not the only Smalltalk casualty here, but, apparently, > too, Avi himself. Â Will Twitter use any of Smallthought's > Smalltalk-based technology? Â It appears, to me, they're intent on > eventually shutting it all down. Â 60 days doesn't seem like a lot of > time for a large customer to find a new system, wow... > Acquring a company to simply shut it down? I doubt this is the case, because it doesn't makes much sense in this situation. Twitter were competing with DabbleDB? I don't wanna speculate about it. > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: >> The question is whether Twitter will recognize that there were reasons that DabbleDB was worth acquiring, and that much of it might be lost in any forced translation they might have in mind. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Geert Claes [geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:52 PM >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] First GemStone, now Dabbled DB ... >> >> Dale Henrichs wrote: >>> >>> In all fairness, the VMWare acquisition of GemStone is very different from >>> the Twitter acquisition of DabbleDB. >>> >> >> No worries Dale, I was just referring to another Smalltalk company being >> acquired :) >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/First-GemStone-now-Dabbled-DB-tp2251325p2252218.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

June 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] First GemStone, now Dabbled DB ...

by Chris Muller

DabbleDB is not the only Smalltalk casualty here, but, apparently, too, Avi himself. Will Twitter use any of Smallthought's Smalltalk-based technology? It appears, to me, they're intent on eventually shutting it all down. 60 days doesn't seem like a lot of time for a large customer to find a new system, wow... On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > The question is whether Twitter will recognize that there were reasons that DabbleDB was worth acquiring, and that much of it might be lost in any forced translation they might have in mind. > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Geert Claes [geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 3:52 PM > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] First GemStone, now Dabbled DB ... > > Dale Henrichs wrote: >> >> In all fairness, the VMWare acquisition of GemStone is very different from >> the Twitter acquisition of DabbleDB. >> > > No worries Dale, I was just referring to another Smalltalk company being > acquired :) > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/First-GemStone-now-Dabbled-DB-tp2251325p2252218.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.1-11400-rc1dev10.06.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. There is a new Pharo 1.1 rc2 image for beta testing. It is based in PharoCore rc2 11400. A little remark is that this is the first release candidate, not the second one. There was a problem when building the PharoCore rc1 and thus, we used PharoCore RC2. To be concistent we call it Pharo 1.1 rc2 to this image. We are getting closer to the stable release of Pharo 1.1 so we would really appreaciate any kind of feedback. Use it, load your packages and applications, run tests, etc. The download link is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27159/Pharo-1.1-11400-rc2dev10.06.… Cheers Mariano

June 13, 2010