June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Prof Stef browser

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > For fun, open two Prof Stef browsers and see what happens when you click on > the tree in one of them. Then close the second one, and click on the tree > in the first. They should act independently. Beyond just a nice system for > newbies, this is a potentially important example to get people started > building GUIs in Pharo, so the details are important. > I agree. I'll try to have a look (repository is public write, if you have a fix just commit it). Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] Prof Stef browser

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

For fun, open two Prof Stef browsers and see what happens when you click on the tree in one of them. Then close the second one, and click on the tree in the first. They should act independently. Beyond just a nice system for newbies, this is a potentially important example to get people started building GUIs in Pharo, so the details are important.

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Julian Fitzell

2010/6/17 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > > On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > - If included with Pharo I suggest to rename all the methods, > otherwise we will run into big troubles with Seaside and other > projects that depend on Grease. > > > From a philosophical standpoint, I *hate* that. this means that as a > plattform, we can not > grow and improve our libraris anymore? > Shouldn't be the goal that useful extensions gets adopted by the core? We will need to find a way to allow platforms to adopt Grease methods - I do think this is the end goal. It's a bit of a nightmare from our point of view because we end up having to have different Grease versions for different versions of the platforms, but isn't that sort of unavoidable in the long run anyway? Part of the reason that's so awful is simply due to the lack of good branching and management tools in our version control systems... Julian

June 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] Shout colors in 1.1 dev

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I was trying to figure out why nil was "part of the comment" in a line like self loadMetacelloPackageLatest:'Seaside' version: "'Seaside 2.8'" nil. when I realized that lots of things are colored the same as comments :( One of the most useful things about syntax coloring is to make comments clearly separate from the rest of the code. The defaults could use some tweaking.

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Lukas Renggli

> - If included with Pharo I suggest to rename all the methods, > otherwise we will run into big troubles with Seaside and other > projects that depend on Grease. > > > From a philosophical standpoint, I *hate* that. this means that as a > plattform, we can not > grow and improve our libraris anymore? > Shouldn't be the goal that useful extensions gets adopted by the core? I agree, from Pharo point of view. However, for any software built on top of Pharo it means troubles if Pharo suddenly implements the same methods. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > - If included with Pharo I suggest to rename all the methods, > otherwise we will run into big troubles with Seaside and other > projects that depend on Grease. > >From a philosophical standpoint, I *hate* that. this means that as a plattform, we can not grow and improve our libraris anymore? Shouldn't be the goal that useful extensions gets adopted by the core? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: PPFlattenParser fix--not

by Lukas Renggli

Sorry, I don't understand your mail :-) Lukas 2010/6/17 Ross Boylan <ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu> > > While the code change does run, it does not do the right thing in the context of the PetitParser system: some subclasses return non-string objects, and with my code change they won't. > > Ross > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: PPFlattenParser fix > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:47:30 -0700 > From: Ross Boylan <ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu> > Organization: UCSF > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > CC: ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu > > The original parseOn: code failed for me with a FileStream in the Pharo > 1.0 image. The last line gets the collection of the stream, and this is > nil (or something that didn't work in the invoked method). I've > attached a revision that works for me. > > Ross > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Lukas Renggli

I've tried to post a message on the bug-tracker, but it seems to have some troubles at the moment. So I post it here: - If included with Pharo I suggest to rename all the methods, otherwise we will run into big troubles with Seaside and other projects that depend on Grease. - If included with Pharo I suggest to also include the tests from Grease-Tests. - The #trim protocol is just a subset of various related string manipulation methods. It is kind of a pity to take that apart. Why not keep Grease-Core as an externally loadable package? It has no other dependencies. Lukas On 17 June 2010 11:57, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Adrien, > > i think it's much better if you include some tests also. > > Regards, > > 2010/6/17 Adrien BARREAU <abarreau.dev(a)live.fr>: >> Hello all, >> >> The trim* messages defined in Grease are really useful. >> I suggest to integrate them in the String class. >> >> Take a look: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 >> >> Adrien. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre vie privÃ©e ? La solution avec Internet Explorer 8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 17, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Serge Stinckwich

Hi Adrien, i think it's much better if you include some tests also. Regards, 2010/6/17 Adrien BARREAU <abarreau.dev(a)live.fr>: > Hello all, > > The trim* messages defined in Grease are really useful. > I suggest to integrate them in the String class. > > Take a look: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 > > Adrien. > > > ________________________________ > Vous voulez protÃ©ger votre vie privÃ©e ? La solution avec Internet Explorer 8 > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

June 17, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 2560 : Convenient methods from Grease for Strings

by Adrien BARREAU

Hello all, The trim* messages defined in Grease are really useful. I suggest to integrate them in the String class. Take a look: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2560 Adrien. _________________________________________________________________ Installez gratuitement les nouvelles Emoch'ticones ! http://www.ilovemessenger.fr/emoticones/telecharger-emoticones-emochticones…

June 17, 2010