June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Versions Browser diff checkboxes

by Gary Chambers

Attached a change set to theme/refactor the diffs/prettyDiffs "buttons" in VersionsBrowsers. Was bugging me having the "old style" UpdatingThreePhaseButtonMorphs... Regards, Gary

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Autotest (TDD), request for comments

by laurent laffont

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Patrick Barroca <patrick.barroca(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hello, > > I started to add a log to Autotest to view the list of ran tests. > I added a new button in the Dashboard, it open a new window with a > PluggableListMorph in it. > > I have then many questions : > - what information should we display in this list ? > Would be cool to show: - method which triggers Autotest - list of TestCase run (so we can also manually check the heuristics and improve them) > - I feel we might need to empty the log sometimes so I would add a > Â«CleanÂ» or Â«EmptyÂ» button in Log window, is this OK ? > If there's a small log size maybe we don't need this > - I think we should give a maximum size to the log as it could > become very large, what would be a meaningful max size ? should it go > to a preference ? > You can start with a method which returns a fixed size (like 10). Then if there's a need to adjust the size we can go on preferences. Keep it simple. Thank you :) Laurent > > Cheers, > > 2010/6/17 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi, > > Autotest is a live testing tool (similar too Ruby Autotest, but the > > Smalltalk way, more dynamic). > > Autotest automatically runs tests related to the methods you edit. > > Screencast to see it in action: > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/autotest3.mpeg > > Autotest uses the following heuritics to find the tests to run: > > - if the method is a test, runs it > > - it the method is a test setUp or tearDown, run all the tests of the > > TestCase > > - else find all senders which are tests in the same package and runs them > > (it detects different packages that are related, for example > ProfStef-Core > > and ProfStef-Test) > > To activate the Autotest dashboard: > > - open the settings browser > > - go under System > > - check "Show Autotest Dashboard" option > > To load it: > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'Autotest'; > > package: 'Autotest'; > > load > > HelpSystem book included. > > > > I would like to know what needs enhancements, what to add (and to remove > :) > > and whether you would use it or not (and why). > > Thanks for feedback. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Patrick Barroca > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] DummyUIManager

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi Mariano, it is not so straightforward. You simply cannot switch from Morphic to DummyUIManager (it requires several next steps and modifications). This patch is only a small step to better Pharo UI Independency and PharoKernel. When Pharo will be PharoKernel ready, we may start to talk about benefits for the deployment. However you may add me as the book user ;-) -- Pavel 2010/6/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi pavel. This is excellent :) > > Now, it would be cool to document how to use it. And even more, the > scenarios where it can be useful. For example, suppose I deploy a headless > PharoCore image with seaside, should I replace the UIManager with the Dummy > ? what do I save? how can I do that? > > I think http://book.pharo-project.org/Â is excellent for this. If you want > to write something please let me know and I make you an user. > > Thanks again > > mariano > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I updated issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2069 >> that adds DummyUIManager and makes Pharo more UIManager independent. >> >> Please review it, it is an important patch for better modularization. >> >> For the method fileInSilentlyAnnouncing: it only changes the category. >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Teleplace Cog VMs are now available

by Paolo Bonzini

On 06/20/2010 10:11 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > Hi All, > > it gives me great pleasure to announce that the Teleplace Cog VMs are > now available. Huge thanks to all at Teleplace who have given me the > opportunity to build Cog and release it as open source Great news, thanks Eliot for your work! Paolo

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] http://www.squeaksource.com/ is down

by Fabrizio Perin

I'm restarting it. It would be on line again in few minutes Cheers, Fabrizio 2010/6/21 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > What can be done / how can we help / what's needed to improve squeaksource > uptime ? > > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > 2010/6/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Where is everyone? Watching the world cup?

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

not the french guys ;-) 2010/6/21 Peter Hugosson-Miller <oldmanlink(a)gmail.com> > Same here, nothing since Wednesday, so I assumed it was the football :-p > > Still now it's working again for me, so whatever the real problem was, it > appears to have been fixed. > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- CÃ©drick

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] http://www.squeaksource.com/ is down

by laurent laffont

What can be done / how can we help / what's needed to improve squeaksource uptime ? Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Cheers > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak on iPad (2)

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

> > how did you get an ipad :) > US origin, it was a bit cheaper and I wanted to try it out... :) Whatever what can be said, I like it. 10hours battery life, 1 second wake up, great finger interface... My wish now is to have a Smalltalk on it... This is close, at least the machinery is working (VM) but we really need to have better suited tools (browsers, commands, etc...). This is probably not complicated technically speaking but it needs a lots of analysis. We should consider what is taking advantage of all sensors and find a coherent way to marry them. -1, 2, 3 and more finger single and double touches, -swipe in and out, -screen orientation -mouvements like shakes -etc, etc... Also, do we use an image that take care of everything or do we interface it (headless) with some ObjC/Cocoa applications (browsers, workspaces, etc...) I think this would be great to have a workshop to discuss on that and I think this goes beyond iOS. My 2 cents, > > On Jun 16, 2010, at 11:33 AM, CÃ©drick BÃ©ler wrote: > > > I just tested etoys on the ipad (Bert version). For those interested, > send me an email. I'll try to get a Pharo version on it too. > > > > That's already very cool but we need to think about a better way to > handle the different events. > > We need event like n-fingers, pinch in and out, etc... Also, we need to > build specific tools. > > > > That would be cool to discuss that in Barcelona... > > > > My 2 cents, > > > > 2010/6/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > What I would do > > - ask alain for the event hierarchy that he extracted from sophie > (because they are better for handling > > a lot of situation and mike redesign them with mulitouch in mind. > > - check the new event system that was put in place by mike during > the clean he did. > > > > Stef > > > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: > > > > > The model is still there, see for example PasteUpMorph>>addHand: > aHandMorph. > > > > > > The challenge is creating and triggering the necessary events from the > vm. > > > > > > This would be excellent to have in Pharo. > > > > > > Fernando > > > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > > > >> More here: > > >> > > >> http://croquetweak.blogspot.com/2010/06/squeak-etoys-on-ipad.html > > >> > > >> "Morphic was designed to handle multiple "hands" (pointing devices) > > >> from the beginning" > > >> > > >> I hope we didnt remove that while cleaning morphic, so Pharo > > >> could also be made multitouch-aware. > > >> > > >> Bye > > >> T. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. > > >> Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > -- > > CÃ©drick > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- CÃ©drick

June 21, 2010

[Pharo-project] http://www.squeaksource.com/ is down

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Cheers Mariano

June 21, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OBSystemBrowser and class comments

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Henrik Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:38 54AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > Maybe it is oCompletion? If I am not mistaken it starts to complete as > > you type? I am still on eCompletion, so I can't verify. > > > > Lukas > Though I haven't used the dev images myself yet, from the description, I > would think so. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1452 > > Doing some profiling while typing would probably reveal if this is the > cause. > > Yes, I think it is OCompletion. I have just load everything but OCompletion and works ok. After installing OCompletion, it gets slow. Do you think it is the same issue as 1452 ? thanks mariano > Cheers, > Henry > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 21, 2010