June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] squeaksource is down (again ...)

by Lukas Renggli

I think it is the time to let squeaksource.com die. After all it served its purpose and made Monticello what it is today: the standard code and versioning system of Smalltalk fully supported by Pharo, Squeak, and GemStone; and partially by Cincom Smalltalk and VA Smalltalk. I doubt that something can rescue squeaksource.com as it is now. Any change means an incredible investment of work and the people that set it up about 7 years ago are moving elsewhere. I think somebody should jump in and provide a much better solution. Lukas On 24 June 2010 14:52, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)netcetera.ch> wrote: > On 06/24/2010 12:17 PM, GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: >> On 06/24/2010 10:04 AM, laurent laffont wrote: >>> What can be done / how can we help / what's needed to improve >>> squeaksource uptime ? >> >> I am not sure how SS is being deployed but one option might be to move >> to another web server as a frontend and use FastCGI or SimpleCGI >> (Blackfoot on SM). > > Believe me when I tell you, the web server is the least of the issues. > What mostly happens are Socket/Semaphore related issues, eg. a thousand > Processes hanging on the same Semaphore. > > What could be done is moving to an up to date image/vm but this is a bit > of work. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] Seaside app crashing - does it sound familiar?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, I am trying to pick up after a few months on a Seaside app. A lot has happened in that time, and I am not certain of its state, except to say that I recall seeing it display some pages. Now it's not working. At least some other Seaside apps are working, and going back to my 1.0 image, it is crashing with "scheduler could not find a runnable process." Are there any common mis-configurations or programming errors that can lead to that? I'll keep digging, but I wanted to post this just in case it's a known punishment for a common crime. Bill

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

On naming, Dolphin has long had a Panic feature that closes "zombie" windows, which are windows that are in a poorly defined state and can't be closed by user interaction. It is amazing how much trouble they can cause. Interestingly, Squeak and Pharo seem to be quite resilient in this respect. Dolphin's MVP framework has always struck me as avoidably sensitive to errors during view opening. ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Carla F. Griggio [carla.griggio(a)gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:31 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Panic I tested it. It works fine in 1.1rc2 :) Thanks! 2010/6/24 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com<mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> 2010/6/24 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> Hi, I'm attaching a changeset with the "Close All Windows" menu item. I did it sending privateDelete to the windows, and I'm not sure if that's right, hehe. I have no idea. But it works and I put it where every other window menu item is. I would like someone to test it. Bah, Mariano already did it, but if someone else can I will be grateful:). Is there an open issue for this? I didn't find it. If there's not I can create it. No, you will have to create it ;) Cheers, Guille On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr<mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: +1 On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > "Panic" does not suggest to me the actual intent. > > Some random ideas: > - "close all" > - "nuke" > - "reset" > - "clear" > - "wipe" > - "zap" > - "tabula rasa" > ... > > - on > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 22:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12012

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Henrik Sperre Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > On 24.06.2010 09:51, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> I have seen this error several times. We don't know where it cames from, >> but yes, there is a problem. >> >> In my case, I always notice in the same situation: when saving an image, >> one of the methods I was most recentrly edditing, replaces the sintax with >> part of the string of the image name. >> >> Exactly the same situation Torsten had here. >> >> So....yes, I had this problem a lot of times. I cannot reproduce it >> always, it just happens sometimes. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> > Sounds a lot like some other tool is modifying the source file position > directly rather than operating on a read-only copy... > We could either: > - Find out which, fix the sender (could take some time to find the right > one) > - Ensure position is at end before writing the image name to file as part > of the string. (easy to do, but problem still remain other places which may > assume position is at end) > > Henry, I know NOTHING about it, but I just saw this issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2547 maybe something related or just non sense? cheers mariano > Cheers, > Henry > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11403

by Marcus Denker

11403 ----- Issue 2547: FilesStreamTest>>testPositionPastEndIsAtEnd Issue 2546: Tests failing: BlockClosureTest and MessageTallyTest -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by Carla F. Griggio

I tested it. It works fine in 1.1rc2 :) Thanks! 2010/6/24 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/6/24 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> > > Hi, >> >> I'm attaching a changeset with the "Close All Windows" menu item. I did >> it sending privateDelete to the windows, and I'm not sure if that's right, >> hehe. > > > I have no idea. > > >> But it works and I put it where every other window menu item is. >> >> I would like someone to test it. Bah, Mariano already did it, but if >> someone else can I will be grateful:). >> >> Is there an open issue for this? I didn't find it. If there's not I can >> create it. >> >> > No, you will have to create it ;) > > > >> Cheers, >> Guille >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > "Panic" does not suggest to me the actual intent. >>> > >>> > Some random ideas: >>> > - "close all" >>> > - "nuke" >>> > - "reset" >>> > - "clear" >>> > - "wipe" >>> > - "zap" >>> > - "tabula rasa" >>> > ... >>> > >>> > - on >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mar 24, 2010, at 22:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> > >>> >> I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] PreferenceBrowser in Monticello Browser ...

by Geert Claes

Should the PreferenceBrowser package be removed from the list of packages in the Monticello browser in 1.2 since it seems to be empty? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/PreferenceBrowser-in-Monticello-Browser-tp2267052p226… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] squeaksource is down (again ...)

by Torsten Bergmann

>It would be great to have a ConfigurationOfMonticello with working versions >for Pharo 1.0 and Pharo 1.1. >With this I think it would be much easier to have people with servers that >can help as "mirrors". You mean a ConfigurationOfSqueakSource so I can set up an own mirror. ;) But this (as Phillipe pointed out) means moving/porting the code to an up to date image/vm. But first we should know what the codebase is... so it would be good to release the image. In general it was the idea of the MetaSource project (with ConfigurationOfMetaSource) to create an updated squeaksource again since current SqueakSource: - is rather old and not based on latest images and lates seaside code - is now not only used for Squeak (also Pharo and Gemstone, ...), hence the name - is currently not that easy to load/set up with a few clicks - we now need better support for Metacello But progress is slow... Thx T. -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

June 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11402

by Marcus Denker

11402 ----- Issue 2554: SystemWindow>>embeddable defect Issue 2556: AutoStart Issue 2552: SystemVersion lost its state in 1.1 Issue 2585: Missing menus in Mac host menu -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

June 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] Ubuntu wallpaper

by Adrian Lienhard

It worked for me. On the wiki page, I had to concatenate the URL from two strings to prevent the Google wiki to embed the image on the wiki page... So, Mariano, is this the cause for the problem or did you run the code posted to the mailing list? Adrian On Jun 24, 2010, at 15:42 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> I have an error "'image format not recognized'" > > Check the correct URL: > > http://ubuntu.ecchi.ca/wallpapers/10.04//Maraetaibeforesunrise.jpg > > in a webbrowser and then try in Pharo 1.1. > > Which VM (Std/Cog?), which OS and which pharo image do you have? > Do you have the same error in another image? > > If the problem persists open a new issue with details. > > Bye > T. > > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 24, 2010