June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12014

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12014 ----- - Issue 2582: Rearrange World Menu

June 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I know that david rothlisberger is working on making autumnleaves available for pharo and that will be cool because we will have unused windows cleverly closing themselves. stef On Jun 26, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Hi Guillermo, > > A panic button is probably very useful. But I feel that we should not need one. The root of the problem is the fact that sometimes, the VM hangs and Alt-. does not work anymore. I tried to investigate on this some times ago, but I haven't found why. > > A panic button is useful, but having Alt-. that always work would be really cool. > > > I think we are talking about different things. Forget about the name Panic and also about the interruption keys. > > There is no new button. Right now, when using "Windows" -> "Close all windows" only those that were not edited are closed. And I think that even workspaces or other things, remind open. What Guillermo did was to change the behavior of "Close all windows" so that ot REALLY closes ALL opened windows, even if there had unsaved changes. This behavior of closing everything was quite similar to what is known as "panic button" in other dialects...this is why the relation. > > I think this change is very useful. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > Just to share my impression. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 24 Jun 2010, at 15:51, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm attaching a changeset with the "Close All Windows" menu item. I did it sending privateDelete to the windows, and I'm not sure if that's right, hehe. But it works and I put it where every other window menu item is. > > > > I would like someone to test it. Bah, Mariano already did it, but if someone else can I will be grateful:). > > > > Is there an open issue for this? I didn't find it. If there's not I can create it. > > > > Cheers, > > Guille > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > +1 > > > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > > > > > > > "Panic" does not suggest to me the actual intent. > > > > > > Some random ideas: > > > - "close all" > > > - "nuke" > > > - "reset" > > > - "clear" > > > - "wipe" > > > - "zap" > > > - "tabula rasa" > > > ... > > > > > > - on > > > > > > > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 22:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > >> I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > <Panic.1.cs>_______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] HTML5 slides

by Gary Chambers

For fun, can be done using halos to embed things interactively... Start with: (Morph new layoutPolicy: StackLayout new; addMorphBack: (Morph new color: Color red; hResizing: #spaceFill; vResizing: #spaceFill); addMorphBack: (Morph new color: Color green; hResizing: #spaceFill; vResizing: #spaceFill); addMorphBack: (Morph new color: Color blue; hResizing: #spaceFill; vResizing: #spaceFill); on: #mouseDown send: #value:value: to: [:event :source | source firstSubmorph goBehind]; openInWindow) extent: 500@400; center: World center Clicking on the window content will flick through the "slides" ;-) Then, say: TextMorph new openInHand drag over the window, bring up the halo menu and "embed into". repeat as desired! (you can drag image files into Pharo from your OS, choose "open in window" then drag/embed etc.) If you want to preserve the contents you can just get an inspector on the window (halos again) and assign to, say, a global. To reopen if closed just send #openAsIs (or equivalent) to your "stored" window. This is by no means the nicest way of doing things, just relatively quick and requiring no new classes etc. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: laurent laffont To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open-sourceSmalltalk Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:12 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] HTML5 slides Hi, I dream of a Pharo app. to create slides like this http://slides.html5rocks.com How would you do it ? Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] HTML5 slides

by Lawson English

On 6/25/10 12:12 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > I dream of a Pharo app. to create slides like this > http://slides.html5rocks.com <http://slides.html5rocks.com/> > > How would you do it ? > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > <http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/> There's an HTML5 class for seaside. Never used it however. Lawson

June 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Hi Guillermo, > > A panic button is probably very useful. But I feel that we should not need > one. The root of the problem is the fact that sometimes, the VM hangs and > Alt-. does not work anymore. I tried to investigate on this some times ago, > but I haven't found why. > > A panic button is useful, but having Alt-. that always work would be really > cool. > > I think we are talking about different things. Forget about the name Panic and also about the interruption keys. There is no new button. Right now, when using "Windows" -> "Close all windows" only those that were not edited are closed. And I think that even workspaces or other things, remind open. What Guillermo did was to change the behavior of "Close all windows" so that ot REALLY closes ALL opened windows, even if there had unsaved changes. This behavior of closing everything was quite similar to what is known as "panic button" in other dialects...this is why the relation. I think this change is very useful. Cheers Mariano Just to share my impression. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 24 Jun 2010, at 15:51, Guillermo Polito wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm attaching a changeset with the "Close All Windows" menu item. I did > it sending privateDelete to the windows, and I'm not sure if that's right, > hehe. But it works and I put it where every other window menu item is. > > > > I would like someone to test it. Bah, Mariano already did it, but if > someone else can I will be grateful:). > > > > Is there an open issue for this? I didn't find it. If there's not I can > create it. > > > > Cheers, > > Guille > > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > +1 > > > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > > > > > > > "Panic" does not suggest to me the actual intent. > > > > > > Some random ideas: > > > - "close all" > > > - "nuke" > > > - "reset" > > > - "clear" > > > - "wipe" > > > - "zap" > > > - "tabula rasa" > > > ... > > > > > > - on > > > > > > > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 22:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > >> I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > <Panic.1.cs>_______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] State of different projects for work with 3D

by Fernando olivero

Hi, from what i understood you just want an OpenGL interface, take a look at: http://www.squeaksource.com/AlienOpenGL.html Or search in this mailing list fot the NativeBoost OpenGL Igor is working on. Also you have the FFI binding to OpenGL extracted from the Croquet/Cobalt system. http://www.squeaksource.com/OpenGL Fernando On Jun 26, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> I want create a language similar to XAML for define UI interfaces. My doubt >> is the number and state of different projects for access to OpenGL. I need >> running on different OS without differences. Well, perhaps is a great >> question, but I havenÂ´t a global look of that in Pharo. Is possible >> implements something like that in Smalltalk? > > I am not sure to understand your email. > From what I've heard and seen, Lumiere is probably the bext starting point for any new opengl related project. > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Lumiere.html > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] State of different projects for work with 3D

by Alexandre Bergel

> I want create a language similar to XAML for define UI interfaces. My doubt > is the number and state of different projects for access to OpenGL. I need > running on different OS without differences. Well, perhaps is a great > question, but I havenÂ´t a global look of that in Pharo. Is possible > implements something like that in Smalltalk? I am not sure to understand your email. >From what I've heard and seen, Lumiere is probably the bext starting point for any new opengl related project. http://www.squeaksource.com/Lumiere.html Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Guillermo, A panic button is probably very useful. But I feel that we should not need one. The root of the problem is the fact that sometimes, the VM hangs and Alt-. does not work anymore. I tried to investigate on this some times ago, but I haven't found why. A panic button is useful, but having Alt-. that always work would be really cool. Just to share my impression. Cheers, Alexandre On 24 Jun 2010, at 15:51, Guillermo Polito wrote: > Hi, > > I'm attaching a changeset with the "Close All Windows" menu item. I did it sending privateDelete to the windows, and I'm not sure if that's right, hehe. But it works and I put it where every other window menu item is. > > I would like someone to test it. Bah, Mariano already did it, but if someone else can I will be grateful:). > > Is there an open issue for this? I didn't find it. If there's not I can create it. > > Cheers, > Guille > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > +1 > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > > > > "Panic" does not suggest to me the actual intent. > > > > Some random ideas: > > - "close all" > > - "nuke" > > - "reset" > > - "clear" > > - "wipe" > > - "zap" > > - "tabula rasa" > > ... > > > > - on > > > > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 22:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > <Panic.1.cs>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharocasts can speak !

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

cool! Thanks this screencasts are really important! Stef On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:46 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to Christoph Budzinski, the "How to contribute to Pharo" screencast has now a voice. http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html > > Feedback welcome. > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 25, 2010

[Pharo-project] iOS folder in squeak VM source tree.

by John M McIntosh

I've moved the source code for the iOS (iPhone/iPad/iPod touch platforms) and the Cocoa based V5 MacintoshSqueak VM to the squeakvm.org SVN tree from the isqueak.org SVN server. Future updates to that code base will only be pushed to the squeakvm.org tree So for building the V4.x.x series of Macintosh Carbon VM's use the "Mac OS" folder, for the 5.x series, or the iPhone/IPad flavour use the iOS folder. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

June 25, 2010