June 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] About TDD and Pharo

by Alexandre Bergel

The problems that I would like to see Pharo address are: - redundancies in unit tests - coverage of tests - classification of low and high levels of tests (implementation tests vs user stories) What are the tools to identify and solve this issues ? Research is needed :-) Alexandre On 2 Jun 2010, at 15:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi all > > Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform for doing TDD. > What would be the changes that we could do support it. > I know that hernan did a package for that but not I would like to have a new list of items > to support it. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About TDD and Pharo

by Guillermo Polito

Today's debugger (and all pharo indeed), is extremely dependant on the mouse... I would love to do all the same with just the keyboard :( On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:30 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Hi all > > Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform > for doing TDD. > What would be the changes that we could do support it. > I know that hernan did a package for that but not I would like to have a > new list of items > to support it. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Using WebClient

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Unfortunately the customer cancelled the project (He selected an automation solution using ActiveX, but automating the IE. My proposal was talking directly with the http server and make a service and so, but well....are the business :) ). Anyway I got very interested by this topic and will try to give a try to the implementation of the post method using multipart boundaries when time permit (This topic is already on my near-to-infinite-todo list). Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2010/6/2 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Andreas: > > Thanks by the comments. > > I will continue with the multipart stuff, because this may become a > payed work for a local customer. > > Indeed I could do the job with other tools but in most of cases that > means install a gazillion of different pieces of software of third > parts that are complex to make work. I prefer to develop my own > solution, even with a bit more of work, but completeley Smalltalk. > Then I can deploy on the customer a self containded service that I can > extend as the customer need. > > I'm now reading about multipart/form-data enctype and will try to > develop this feature for WebClient (if the customer don't cancel the > project). > > Will send the news. > > Cheers. > GermÃ¡n. >

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] The Morphic 3 project

by Richard Durr

Woah, cool. ^^ On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Douglas Brebner <squeaklists(a)fang.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On 02/06/2010 12:43, Juan Vuletich wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm new to this list, but many of you already know me. >> >> Morphic 3 is a deep redesign of the Morphic framework. It includes new >> rendering algorithms I developed that produce unparalleled visual quality. >> Really. This is the best 2d rendering in the world. You can take a look at >> Â www.jvuletich.org. I have been working a lot recently, and uploaded several >> very cool samples for you to see. >> > > This is awesome :) > > I'm wondering though, what you intend for the input side. There's a lot of > touch screen and multitouch devices around now which would be nice to > directly support in addition to keyboard + mouse, things like pinch-zoom on > a ZUI would be cool :) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can I use Projects in Pharo?

by Alexandre Bergel

I have never been able to distinguish my workplace from home. I therefore have just one place, where I both live and work. Instead, I frequently change countries. Just (half) kidding ;-) Cheers, Alexandre On 2 Jun 2010, at 15:54, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > hehe, I never use Spaces in OS X. They don't work for me (often, windows open in the wrong space and hence I quickly mess up and it just gets annoying because I don't find what I am looking for). > > Instead, I use multiple machines! > > just kidding ;) > > cu on Saturday at the sprint, > Adrian > > > On Jun 2, 2010, at 21:45 , Mariano Abel Coca wrote: > >> +1 >> >> Images are projects, I'm agree with that. But having multiple worlds is like >> having a multiple desktop layout. Why are them in Mac and Linux? Because >> it's useful. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mariano. >> >> >> 2010/6/2 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> >>> 2010/6/2 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >>>> >>>> I think you are missing the OP's point. The goal (unless I am missing >>>> something) is to have a way to open say four browsers on specific classes >>>> and methods and maybe a workspace or two to work on one particular >>>> project/task, and to do the same for other tasks. >>>> >>> >>> In past I used projects like you. I have many tasks and used separate >>> project for each. I have many morphs opened in different projects (for data >>> diagrams, image processing, animation and others, not only browsers and >>> workspaces). It's really very suitable for development, learning and usage >>> ready appications. >>> I try used separate images for each task. But with this approach I must >>> update any system package in all images I used. >>> >>> I think multiple worlds system will be very attractive for users. Maybe its >>> implementation not difficult. And it will be more powerfull than Dolphin >>> IdeaSpaces and java IDE's analogous. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can I use Projects in Pharo?

by Adrian Lienhard

hehe, I never use Spaces in OS X. They don't work for me (often, windows open in the wrong space and hence I quickly mess up and it just gets annoying because I don't find what I am looking for). Instead, I use multiple machines! just kidding ;) cu on Saturday at the sprint, Adrian On Jun 2, 2010, at 21:45 , Mariano Abel Coca wrote: > +1 > > Images are projects, I'm agree with that. But having multiple worlds is like > having a multiple desktop layout. Why are them in Mac and Linux? Because > it's useful. > > Cheers, > > Mariano. > > > 2010/6/2 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > >> 2010/6/2 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >>> >>> I think you are missing the OP's point. The goal (unless I am missing >>> something) is to have a way to open say four browsers on specific classes >>> and methods and maybe a workspace or two to work on one particular >>> project/task, and to do the same for other tasks. >>> >> >> In past I used projects like you. I have many tasks and used separate >> project for each. I have many morphs opened in different projects (for data >> diagrams, image processing, animation and others, not only browsers and >> workspaces). It's really very suitable for development, learning and usage >> ready appications. >> I try used separate images for each task. But with this approach I must >> update any system package in all images I used. >> >> I think multiple worlds system will be very attractive for users. Maybe its >> implementation not difficult. And it will be more powerfull than Dolphin >> IdeaSpaces and java IDE's analogous. >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2010

[Pharo-project] moose 4.0

by Tudor Girba

Hello, We are extremely happy to announce version 4.0 of the Moose Suite: http://moosetechnology.org/download This is the first fully open source release of Moose: it is based on Pharo 1.0 (released under MIT), and all its components are available under a BSD or MIT license. WHAT'S NEW Core developments: â¢ New meta-meta-model: FM3 implemented in Fame â¢ New FAMIX 3 meta-model defined using Fame â¢ New query interface for FAMIX â¢ FAMIX extensions for Java to support annotations and exceptions â¢ Glamour: a new generic engine for scripting browsers â¢ Merlin: a new framework for defining wizards â¢ MooseAlgos: Improved generic algorithms for graph and data manipulation â¢ PetitParser: a novel framework for defining modular parsers â¢ Improved Mondrian engine for scripting graph-based visualizations â¢ Arki: a framework for fast creation of custom reports Improved user interface: â¢ Extensible Moose Finder based on Glamour with integrated visualizations and query facilities â¢ Moose meta-model browser â¢ Wizard-based importers for Smalltalk and Java (with inFusion) â¢ Customizable System Complexity visualization â¢ Customizable Distribution Map visualization â¢ Several dedicated browsers and viualizations Better technical infrastructure: â¢ Hudson-based integration server â¢ Metacello project versioning â¢ Fame lint rules Improved documentation: â¢ The Moose Book: http://themoosebook.org Other applications: â¢ The Package Blueprint visualization â¢ Enriched DSM (eDSM): a suite of tools for detecting dependency cycles â¢ SmallDude: duplication detection engine â¢ Distribution Map engine External applications: â¢ Aspect Maps: a visual tool for understanding Java aspects â¢ Spy: a Smalltalk dynamic analysis instrumentation â¢ AutoMoose: an integration of Moose with the command line â¢ Moose JEE: a set of tools dedicated to the analysis of JEE systems â¢ CAnalyzer: a parser and a set of visualizations to analyze C systems â¢ Tighter integration with inFusion for Java parsing A complete list of issues fixed in this release can be found at:http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fix… FUTURE PLANS An incomplete set of future actions: â¢ Trait-based FAMIX metamodel for better conceptual clarity and more reuse â¢ Better layered architecture nearing Pharo core: the goal is to ease the path from a Moose prototype to a stand-alone tool for Pharo. â¢ Improved FAMIX query API â¢ Improved Glamour engine â¢ Improved Mondrian engine â¢ EyeSee engine for drawing charts â¢ Better browsers for various analyses use cases â¢ Parsers for various languages â¢ Tests reorganization â¢ <your project as a default tool in Moose Suite> ;) Have fun, The Moose Team

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can I use Projects in Pharo?

by Mariano Abel Coca

+1 Images are projects, I'm agree with that. But having multiple worlds is like having a multiple desktop layout. Why are them in Mac and Linux? Because it's useful. Cheers, Mariano. 2010/6/2 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > 2010/6/2 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >> >> I think you are missing the OP's point. The goal (unless I am missing >> something) is to have a way to open say four browsers on specific classes >> and methods and maybe a workspace or two to work on one particular >> project/task, and to do the same for other tasks. >> > > In past I used projects like you. I have many tasks and used separate > project for each. I have many morphs opened in different projects (for data > diagrams, image processing, animation and others, not only browsers and > workspaces). It's really very suitable for development, learning and usage > ready appications. > I try used separate images for each task. But with this approach I must > update any system package in all images I used. > > I think multiple worlds system will be very attractive for users. Maybe its > implementation not difficult. And it will be more powerfull than Dolphin > IdeaSpaces and java IDE's analogous. > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 2, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial + ProfStefBrowser really cool

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I hope :) Stef On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:47 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > I've just created a ConfigurationOfScamper using MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial (see http://code.google.com/p/metacello/) in ProfStefBrowser, it's really funny. > > Can MetacelloCreateConfigurationTutorial be included in Pharo (Dev) 1.1 ? > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 2, 2010

[Pharo-project] About TDD and Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all Imagine that we would like to sell pharo (+ seaside) as THE agile platform for doing TDD. What would be the changes that we could do support it. I know that hernan did a package for that but not I would like to have a new list of items to support it. Stef

June 2, 2010