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Re: [Pharo-project] how to change the default size of the Pharo host windows?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I asked the same question a few weeks back and the only working > solution I found was to patch the window size in the image file. The > actual implementation is from Max Leske: > > http://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/resize-window.sh > > OMG. WHAT A HACK!!!! but works hahahah. I cannot believe such thing could work...but in fact, it does! It is sad this cannot be done with Smalltalk, just evaluating something in the image. Thanks! Mariano > Lukas > > 2010/5/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > I know I already asked this, but I didn't get a working solution. I want > to > > change the default size of the host windows that runs on Pharo. Does > someone > > know how to do that? > > > > I attach the 2 screenshots: what I have, and what I want. > > > > Thanks > > > > mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfExternalWebBrowser working in Squeak and Pharo trunk

by Sean P. DeNigris

Hilaire Fernandes-6 wrote: > > Is it portable to different OS? Does it use a VM plugin? > Someone on squeak-dev said it worked on Windows for them. Not sure about plugins - Applescript and FFI are dependencies. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ConfigurationOfExternalWebBrowser-working-in-Squeak-a… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Andrei: Once you have finished to make it work and how to tune it to make it faster, it would be great if you can write this in a section/chaper of the collaborative pharo book: http://book.pharo-project.org/ If you want I can creat you a user, and the section...then you only need to write ;) cheers mariano 2010/5/14 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > Ok, I figured it out. > On the remote machine just start pharo with RFBServer started (connection > passwords must be set!) > On the local Windows machine open ssh or putty tunneling local port 5900 to > the remote port 5900 (putty -L 5900:localhost:5900 username(a)doman.com) > After that start a VNC client (in my case I installed TightVNC) and connect > to your local machine. > That will automatically establish a tunneled traffic between those two > systems va ssh tunneling. > > > 2010/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > I paste a text I got from an old mail: "The latest version on squeaksource >> works. You can load it from http://squeaksource.com/RFB (Note that this >> package has been forked at least three times.) We used to connect to the >> server with RealVNC with the following settings: ZRLE encoding (disable >> auto select), Full color. IIRC you should also turn off the "render cursor >> locally" feature. >> On the server you should allow ZRLE and turn off the conserve memory >> feature. >> " >> >> In addition, ask in seaside mailing list too. You will probably receive >> more help. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >> 2010/5/14 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Exactly what VNC slient I can use on Windows? >>> I tried VNC viewer free ( >>> http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html) trying to >>> connect to the locally run Pharo and the viewer fails with "uncknown rect >>> encoding" after which Pharo image also freezes. >>> Is there any step-by-step tutorial how to setup VNC (remote Linux, local >>> Windows)? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> 2010/5/14 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: >>>> > Interesting! Is it done on the X-server side or client? >>>> > >>>> you should have settings in your VNC client. >>>> also, you could set bpp for image. >>>> both could help to run things faster. >>>> >>>> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com>: >>>> >> > That's right, looks like it sends full-blown images (not the delta, >>>> not >>>> >> > the >>>> >> > commands to x-server) and re-drawing takes forever. I wonder if >>>> it's a >>>> >> > Pharo >>>> >> > issue or x-server's? My xterm works pretty fast compared to Pharo >>>> >> > though... >>>> >> > >>>> >> lowering the pixel depth to 8bpp helps :) >>>> >> >>>> >> > 2010/5/12 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> I have at times done what you are attempting, and painful is >>>> nicest >>>> >> >> adjective I can think to use. Please let us know if VNC is a >>>> better >>>> >> >> option. Re RDP, I have wondered whether the poor performance >>>> could be >>>> >> >> telling us something about the amount of drawing that might be >>>> >> >> happening for >>>> >> >> no purpose??? It can be terribly slow, especially the response to >>>> >> >> typing. >>>> >> >> Bill >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> ________________________________ >>>> >> >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of >>>> >> >> Mariano >>>> >> >> Martinez Peck >>>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:25 AM >>>> >> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Remove developing with Pharo >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> 2010/5/12 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Currently I have my web applications running on a Ubuntu box to >>>> which >>>> >> >>> I >>>> >> >>> connect from a remote WinXP system via ssh. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> I guess the subject should be "remote" instead of "remove" ? ;) >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Sorry I ask but why not you cannot just develop in your pc and >>>> with scp >>>> >> >> or >>>> >> >> similar you copy the .image and .image file trough ssh to the >>>> server ? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> My current set of tools is Lisp/Slime/Emacs. >>>> >> >>> I tried to launch Pharo with X11 forwarding using X-server on >>>> WinXP, >>>> >> >>> but >>>> >> >>> it painfully slow (the Pharo main windows redraws in a few >>>> minutes). >>>> >> >>> I am really thinking developing some web app using Pharo/Seaside >>>> (I am >>>> >> >>> liking the language more and more!) but I need to know to do it >>>> >> >>> remotely via >>>> >> >>> a secure connection. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Yes, there is an implementation of the VNC protocolol. You can >>>> take a >>>> >> >> Pharo image and load a VNC server. Then, you can connect to any >>>> VNC >>>> >> >> client >>>> >> >> and what you see is the image....Then you can do whatever you >>>> want. I >>>> >> >> don't >>>> >> >> know the performance, thus. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> That package is called RFB (remote something buffer) >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> To install it: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Gofer it >>>> >> >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>>> >> >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRFB'; >>>> >> >> load. >>>> >> >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) project perform: >>>> #latestVersion) >>>> >> >> load. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Cheers >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Mariano >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Thank you, >>>> >> >>> Andrei >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> >>> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >> > Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Best regards, >>>> >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] how to change the default size of the Pharo host windows?

by Lukas Renggli

I asked the same question a few weeks back and the only working solution I found was to patch the window size in the image file. The actual implementation is from Max Leske: http://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/resize-window.sh Lukas 2010/5/16 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > I know I already asked this, but I didn't get a working solution. I want to > change the default size of the host windows that runs on Pharo. Does someone > know how to do that? > > I attach the 2 screenshots: what I have, and what I want. > > Thanks > > mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Newbie: Does Socket ping: 'addr' work in Pharo3.11.8 ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 4:28 AM, RickT <Rick(a)emarysville.com> wrote: > > I installed the one-click version on Windows (XP) recently and am learning > Smalltalk. Welcome! we hope you enjoy :) > I am under the impression that in a Shout Workspace I can > execute the line > > Socket ping: 'localhost' > > (or some valid address). But I always get a message that it timed out. I > can successfully ping the same address in a command window. Sorry I don't understand. Where you can successfully ping ? what's is a command window? do you mean DOS or somehow outside Pharo? Can you try the same after evaluating: NetNameResolver classVarNamed: 'UseOldNetwork' put: true Can you try also the same but using a PharoCore 1.1 image (you can use the same VM): https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26995/PharoCore-1.1-11357-UNSTABLE… Thanks! Mariano > Any guidance > would be appreciated. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Newbie-Does-Socket-ping-addr-work-in-Pharo3-11-8-tp22… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

May 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] Anyone wants to put style to the welcome workspace?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. Any volunteer to make the welcome workspace nicer? Now it is just plane text. Maybe adding some style to title, colors etc may be cool. I don't know how to do it, neither I have too much time. If you want to see where it is such code it is in DEVImageWorkspaces >> openWelcomeWorkspace in the package ImageForDevelopers-pharo from the repository http://www.squeaksource.com/ImageForDevelopers Thanks in case someone can help. Mariano

May 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] how to change the default size of the Pharo host windows?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I know I already asked this, but I didn't get a working solution. I want to change the default size of the host windows that runs on Pharo. Does someone know how to do that? I attach the 2 screenshots: what I have, and what I want. Thanks mariano

May 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] So...we freeze 1.1 ? (next steps?)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

We said that for middle May we were going to freeze 1.1. This means, no more new features or refactors. Just bug fixes. So, the next steps can be: - Release a PharoCore1.1 with the last version we have so far tagged as alpha1 (please, put this tag in the zip, .image and .changes). This may be, for example: Pharo-1.1-11360-alpha1.image - Build and release a Pharo 1.1 alpha1 based on such core (now we have almost all dev tools working well in 1.1) - Make publish all new VMs (for each OS) Then the idea is that people/developers start to play with Pharo 1.1. It may be quite unstable as this is the first release for 1.1. People should try to load their own packages, adapt them (if necessary) to 1.1, and report all issues they find (and fixes!!). But they should keep in mind this the first alpha ;) With these, we will be testing: new VMs, PharoCore, PharoDev tools, and external packages (from other people). Pharo team at the same time, continues to work, fixing and integrating. We make new versions as we have been doing so far. When we consider, we release an alpha2....then beta, then RC and finally Pharo 1.1. now...do you think there is an issue that is so important to be fixed/included in the first Pharo1.1 even being a first alpha ? Cheers Mariano

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfExternalWebBrowser working in Squeak and Pharo trunk

by Hilaire Fernandes

Sean P. DeNigris a Ã©crit : >> What is an external web browser? >> What are its goals? > It's an alternative to Scamper. It forwards urls to the underlying OS's > browser e.g. on my mac, it opens the URL in a new Safari window. > > And how to we use the code in this package? > "ExternalWebBrowser openOnUrl: 'www.squeak.org'" Is it portable to different OS? Does it use a VM plugin? Hilaire

May 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Traits installer/uninstaller utility

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 16, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Johan, > > I took a quick look and it looks interesting. > > Just a note for discussion. Executing "AspectMapsUI open" installs the traits. One of your trait extension is adding TAMStructuralZoom to FAMIXClass. > > Now, when I browse the FAMIXClass, I get this in the browser: > > ----- > FAMIXType subclass: #FAMIXClass > uses: TAMStructuralZoom > instanceVariableNames: 'isInterface' > classVariableNames: '' > poolDictionaries: '' > category: 'Famix-Core' > ----- > > There are two problems with this: > > 1. So, now if I just want to edit the base class, I have to take care and delete the Trait before, because the Trait is part of the definition. > > This is a limitation of the browser, but we have to pay attention to it. > > 2. If you look in Monticello, the base package (FAMIX-Core in this case) is not dirty, but if you explicitly look for Changes, it gets dirty. I do not know how this could be solved. Perhaps we need extension as first class? this happens also for none trait. One day we will have to do a large pass on monticello. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 May 2010, at 02:36, Johan Fabry wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> this is a small package that I wrote after doing a traits-based refactoring of AspectMaps (Plug: Check out AspectMaps for a cool visualization of Aspects. http://pleiad.cl/aspectmaps. It has nice screencasts. All comments welcome!) >> >> AspectMaps extends a number of classes of FAMIX to do its thing, using standard class extensions. This works OK when you are not using traits. But when using a trait, you need to redef the class, i.e. change the original package (in this case one of the moose packages). A big no-no. This kind of change should also be encapusulated in the AspectMaps package, but currently this is not possible. So, as long as traits and packages dont play well together, these kinds of refactorings are out. >> >> However not so when you are using the TraitsApplication package. This package provides a means to programmatically install/uninstall traits. Call it in a post-load action on a package (if such a thing exists), in a class initialize method, et cetera (for AspectMaps I do it in the AspectMaps>>open method). I thought this could be useful to some members of the community so I am releasing it publicly. You can find it at http://www.squeaksource.com/TraitsApplication >> >> CAVEAT: This is a quick implementation, it is non-optimal. It can be made much more elegant, but that requires time that I dont have right now :-(. I does not handle fancy trait compositions (yet). I give no guarantees other than that >> 1) it passes all of its tests >> 2) it works for me :-) >> >> So check it out. Comments are welcome! >> -- >> Johan Fabry >> jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

May 16, 2010