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Re: [Pharo-project] Which fonts for Pharo 1.1 ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

may be we should write that on the book henrik would like to write some paragraph on fonts for dummies like us. Stef On May 11, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > On May 10, 2010, at 10:15 02PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> OK...I like 1) also, but I would care about: >> >> a) Explain and document somewhere how people can install and make truetype to work >> b) Use the VMs that have the fix to issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1803 >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 10 May 2010, at 19:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> >> On May 10, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> Hi guys. Last Pharo 1.0 images have the TrueType fonts. Now, in Pharo 1.1 Cores we have a StrikeFonts. We have two possibilites: >> >> 1) let those (strike fonts) fonts also for the dev image >> 1) >> >> and people can load TT if they want. >> >> I agree. It also makes distributing images easier. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> >> 2) Continue to put TrueType in Pharo dev > > > PS. > Please call it FreeType. > Although the Freetype plugin (the interface to, and user of, you call TrueType) supports using TrueType fonts, it would be nice to be able to disambiguate it from the TrueType-Fonts/Support packages, which is something different entirely: > - Parser for TT-files in Smalltak, which is kind of cool. F.ex. I had a hard time deciphering the values given by the FreeType plugin primitives (at least without RTF external Manual), TTFontReader made getting understandable values directly from the font file easy :) > - Glyph renderer using Balloon, which is not that cool as the resulting graphics are too weak. > > Cheers, > Henry > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] keyAtValue: -> keysAtValue:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

But marcus the problem is right now keyAtValue: is bogus. Did you see it? On May 11, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > I think one question one should always ask: Do I have a real need for the new method? > > Sometimes it makes sense to add new API methods even outside of direct need. > Consistency is the most important reason to add something. > > So is there a direct need for your method? > > Marcus > > > > On May 10, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Tristan Bourgois wrote: > >> >> keyAtValue: returns one key of the value specified but if you have more time >> the same value the method return one key. >> An example: >> t:=Dictionary new. >> t at: 'toto' put: 4. >> t at: 'foo' put: 4. >> t keyAtValue:4. -> 'foo' >> >> So we can't recuperate all of the keys. I propose to create the methods >> keysAtValue: who return an Array with all the keys for this value. >> >> I'm not in Pharo very long time so I can not say if it can be useful so I am >> asking to you the question. >> >> Tristan Bourgois. >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/keyAtValue-keysAtValue-tp2165484p2165484.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which fonts for Pharo 1.1 ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

PS. > Please call it FreeType. > Although the Freetype plugin (the interface to, and user of, you call > TrueType) supports using TrueType fonts, it would be nice to be able to > disambiguate it from the TrueType-Fonts/Support packages, which is something > different entirely: > - Parser for TT-files in Smalltak, which is kind of cool. F.ex. I had a > hard time deciphering the values given by the FreeType plugin primitives (at > least without RTF external Manual), TTFontReader made getting understandable > values directly from the font file easy :) > - Glyph renderer using Balloon, which is not that cool as the resulting > graphics are too weak. > > hi Henrik. Thanks for the clarification. As you can see, my knowledge about fonts is almost nil. > Cheers, > Henry > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Vm-dev] Re: Freetype plugin archive

by Mariano Martinez Peck

> > I think you're right. I will add this description. > > Indeed, with easy_squeakvm script you have reproducibility (all is > automated, explicit svn rev. and ConfigurationOfVMMaker). > > Yes, it is reproduceable. But it is the same, in the Conf version, I need the version of easy_squeakvm script as you will commit after. easy_squeakvm is linux specific...so I would put the svn version, not easy_squeakvm script ;) > May be we can "translate" easy_squeakvm to Smalltalk so we can have an > EasySqueakVM package (or better name) which is cross platform. > hahahah maybe ;) > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > > >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> >> >>> Laurent Laffont >>> >>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >>> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Newbie: How to load and use HTTP parser

by laurent laffont

> > >> > I have a simple task of parsing some html content in Pharo (loading an >> html >> > page using HTTPSocket and retrieving useful info from it). >> > Having browsed for an html parser in my current one-click Pharo 1.0 >> image, I >> > couldn't find one. >> > How do I find/download a (the) HTML parser? >> > I put an HTML-Parser (package HTML) here when trying to make Scamper works http://squeaksource.com/LaurentLSandbox.html but I think it's not really stable. You may be interested in this screencast: http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/rest-xml-parsing-and-photos.html > > >> > What's the general routine of discovering and installing packages in >> Pharo? >> > I believe in Squeak there was a menu to explore and download packages, I >> > couldn't find it in Pharo though. >> > At the moment there's no "official" GUI. A good place to start is the MetacelloRepository. http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository Cheers, Laurent Laffont http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Andrei >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] keyAtValue: -> keysAtValue:

by Marcus Denker

Hi, I think one question one should always ask: Do I have a real need for the new method? Sometimes it makes sense to add new API methods even outside of direct need. Consistency is the most important reason to add something. So is there a direct need for your method? Marcus On May 10, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Tristan Bourgois wrote: > > keyAtValue: returns one key of the value specified but if you have more time > the same value the method return one key. > An example: > t:=Dictionary new. > t at: 'toto' put: 4. > t at: 'foo' put: 4. > t keyAtValue:4. -> 'foo' > > So we can't recuperate all of the keys. I propose to create the methods > keysAtValue: who return an Array with all the keys for this value. > > I'm not in Pharo very long time so I can not say if it can be useful so I am > asking to you the question. > > Tristan Bourgois. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/keyAtValue-keysAtValue-tp2165484p2165484.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] "Tools" -> "more" removed from PharoCode 1.1...intentionally ? (alain ?)

by Marcus Denker

On May 11, 2010, at 12:30 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. In Pharo 1.0 we use to have under "Tools" -> "More" some tools like: > > Language Editor > Language Editor For > Monticello Browser > Monticello Configurations > Preference Browser > Recent Submissions > Search Browser > Services Browser > Test Runner > This was where menu items where put when they registered using the old menu registration. > However, in Pharo 1.1 there is not even a "more" menu item. > No. Reasion: tools now can register themselves anywhere in the menu hierarchy. The missing tools are missing as nobody used them (Language editor) or where removed (Services). > I saw the following issues: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1937 > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1945 > > but I am not sure if I understand. Alain said something has to be done in ImageForDevelopers... > > Tools should use the new pragma based menu registration mechanism and put themselves at a useful place in the menu. e.g. this is how the ProcessBrowser does it: ProcessBrowser>>#menuCommandOn: aBuilder <worldMenu> (aBuilder item: #'Process Browser') parent: #Tools; action:[self open]; icon: self taskbarIcon. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Which fonts for Pharo 1.1 ?

by Henrik Johansen

On May 10, 2010, at 10:15 02PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > OK...I like 1) also, but I would care about: > > a) Explain and document somewhere how people can install and make truetype to work > b) Use the VMs that have the fix to issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1803 > > Cheers > > Mariano > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 May 2010, at 19:15, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > On May 10, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Hi guys. Last Pharo 1.0 images have the TrueType fonts. Now, in Pharo 1.1 Cores we have a StrikeFonts. We have two possibilites: > > 1) let those (strike fonts) fonts also for the dev image > 1) > > and people can load TT if they want. > > I agree. It also makes distributing images easier. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > > 2) Continue to put TrueType in Pharo dev PS. Please call it FreeType. Although the Freetype plugin (the interface to, and user of, you call TrueType) supports using TrueType fonts, it would be nice to be able to disambiguate it from the TrueType-Fonts/Support packages, which is something different entirely: - Parser for TT-files in Smalltak, which is kind of cool. F.ex. I had a hard time deciphering the values given by the FreeType plugin primitives (at least without RTF external Manual), TTFontReader made getting understandable values directly from the font file easy :) - Glyph renderer using Balloon, which is not that cool as the resulting graphics are too weak. Cheers, Henry

May 11, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Standard input in Pharo?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/5/11 Andrei Stebakov <lispercat(a)gmail.com> > I've been just going through "Computer Programming with GNU Smalltalk" book > using Pharo 1.0 as an actual ST implementation. > You may want to read also Pharo By Example: http://pharobyexample.org/ Cheers Mariano > The book mentions "stdin nextLine" as a way to get an input from a user via > the standard input. > Is there a similar class/method in Pharo? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 11, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] DTrace for Squeak/Pharo

by Adrian Lienhard

Now there's also a DTrace provider for the Squeak VM: http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/blog?dialog=smalltak-meets-dtrace DTrace is a powerful, kernel-based dynamic tracing framework. With the new provider one can analyze the execution of Pharo/Squeak applications. My post is an introduction that should get you quickly started. I've attached a pre-compiled VM for OS X. Hope you like it :) Cheers, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

May 11, 2010