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Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This is strange because I checked all the code. and I reload it and and and. Stef On May 28, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > It's during load, happens on OSX too. > > Take a 11376 or earlier, select the Morphic package in Pharo, and click changes. The diff for FormCanvas transformBy:clippingTo:during:smoothing: is pretty hilarious :) > > The definition of that method in the Morphic version for Guillermos halt removals (which was merged in 11377) had some whiteSpace changes in that method. > > The version of Morphic you ended up published however, has the entire method definition replaced by > arch/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image > > which strangly does not compile :) > > Cheers, > Henry > > > On May 28, 2010, at 9:24 59AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> do you have a stack trace? >> >> Stef >> >> On May 28, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> >>> Updating the 1.1. core on Windows brings a SyntaxError (FormCanvas drawing-support arch) while processing 11377: >>> >>> "archNothing more expected ->/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >>> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FWD: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Croquet OpenGL on Squeaksource (Re: Trying to load ALienOpenGL into 4.1 alpha...)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

tx torsten! On May 28, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Download a Pharo 1.1. core image (for instance > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27017/PharoCore-1.1-11367-Beta.zip) > and then evaluate: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ScriptLoader new installingInstaller. > ((Smalltalk at: #Installer) repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') > install: 'FFI-Pools'; > install: 'FFI-Kernel'; > install: 'FFI-Tests'. > > ((Smalltalk at: #Installer) repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') > install: '3DTransform'; > install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; > install: 'OpenGL-Core'. > > (Smalltalk at: #OpenGL) example. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This will give you an error: "Improper store into indexable object". > You just have to remove this line that shows the FPS, so remove > > "ogl drawString: frames printString, ' frames: ', (framesPerSec truncateTo: 0.1), ' fps' at: 0@font height@0 font: font color: Color black." > > from OpenGL example and then it works. At least for me without any > problem. Note that you had to set the VM to use OpenGL instead > of Direct3D on Windows (Hit F2 and go to Display and Sound menu) > > Bye > T. > > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Henrik Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > It's during load, happens on OSX too. > > Take a 11376 or earlier, select the Morphic package in Pharo, and click > changes. The diff for FormCanvas transformBy:clippingTo:during:smoothing: is > pretty hilarious :) > > The definition of that method in the Morphic version for Guillermos halt > removals (which was merged in 11377) had some whiteSpace changes in that > method. > > The version of Morphic you ended up published however, has the entire > method definition replaced by > arch/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image > Henry: I have this problem very frequently. I don't know how, I don't know why, but when I save the image, some method gets saved with something like this: arch/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image it is, the file of the image. The method that gets replaced is some of the methods I was working on, not sure which one. Has someone else experimented this problem? what can it be? Cheers Mariano > > which strangly does not compile :) > > Cheers, > Henry > > > On May 28, 2010, at 9:24 59AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > do you have a stack trace? > > > > Stef > > > > On May 28, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > > >> Updating the 1.1. core on Windows brings a SyntaxError (FormCanvas > drawing-support arch) while processing 11377: > >> > >> "archNothing more expected > ->/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image" > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] FWD: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Croquet OpenGL on Squeaksource (Re: Trying to load ALienOpenGL into 4.1 alpha...)

by Torsten Bergmann

Download a Pharo 1.1. core image (for instance https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27017/PharoCore-1.1-11367-Beta.zip) and then evaluate: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ScriptLoader new installingInstaller. ((Smalltalk at: #Installer) repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') install: 'FFI-Pools'; install: 'FFI-Kernel'; install: 'FFI-Tests'. ((Smalltalk at: #Installer) repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') install: '3DTransform'; install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; install: 'OpenGL-Core'. (Smalltalk at: #OpenGL) example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This will give you an error: "Improper store into indexable object". You just have to remove this line that shows the FPS, so remove "ogl drawString: frames printString, ' frames: ', (framesPerSec truncateTo: 0.1), ' fps' at: 0@font height@0 font: font color: Color black." from OpenGL example and then it works. At least for me without any problem. Note that you had to set the VM to use OpenGL instead of Direct3D on Windows (Hit F2 and go to Display and Sound menu) Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FWD: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Croquet OpenGL on Squeaksource (Re: Trying to load ALienOpenGL into 4.1 alpha...)

by Lawson English

On 5/28/10 12:31 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > If you want us to help > may be you should start to tell us exactly what you tried to do. > Without that then we cannot. > > Stef Sorry I scrambled the order. Tried this with the latest update of Seaside 3.0a. I had to use Monticello directly, rather than Installer. (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') install: 'FFI-Pools'; install: 'FFI-Kernel'; install: 'FFI-Tests'. (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') install: '3DTransform'; install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; install: 'OpenGL-Core'. OpenGL example. 'OpenGL example." returned the error MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName Andreas Raab : >This is your problem. CroquetGL has not been tested on Pharo. I>suspect Pharo 1.0 has still the dreadful "SmalltalkImage current>platformName". ) Is this fixable without lots of work, or should I just be using AlienOpenGL assuming its still working in Pharo? Lawson > On May 28, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Lawson English wrote: > > >> (Andreas Raab responded to this with: >> >> >> This is your problem. CroquetGL has not been tested on Pharo. I suspect Pharo 1.0 has still the dreadful "SmalltalkImage current platformName". ) >> >> >> Is AlienOpenGL still an option? >> >> >> Lawson >> >> >> >> On 5/27/10 7:54 PM, Lawson English wrote: >> >>> Darn, tried that with the latest update of Seaside 3.0a. I had to use Monticello directly, rather than Installer. 'OpenGL example." returned the error MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/22/10 11:04 PM, Andreas Raab wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/22/2010 7:27 PM, Lawson English wrote: >>>> >>>>> Croquet OpenGL is dependent on all sorts of things. Have you managed to >>>>> get Croquet working in a modernish version of Squeak/Pharo? >>>>> >>>> (you will need an updated 4.1 trunk image - I've promoted Form>>flipVertically to core in the process of making this package) >>>> >>>> From http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL >>>> >>>> The OpenGL interface from Croquet for consumption in other contexts. Supports OpenGL 1.4 plus extensions. >>>> >>>> To install, first load the FFI via: >>>> >>>> (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') >>>> install: 'FFI-Pools'; >>>> install: 'FFI-Kernel'; >>>> install: 'FFI-Tests'. >>>> >>>> then load CroquetGL: >>>> >>>> (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') >>>> install: '3DTransform'; >>>> install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; >>>> install: 'OpenGL-Core'. >>>> >>>> When everything has loaded, try the example: >>>> >>>> OpenGL example. >>>> >>>> Important Windows Note: >>>> >>>> In order to use Croquet on Windows, you must make sure your VM is set to support OpenGL instead of D3D by default. To do this, press F2 or go to the system menu, into the "Display and Sound" section and ensure the preference "Use OpenGL (instead of D3D" is ENABLED. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - Andreas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] difference between Sequenceable and Ordered

by Tristan Bourgois

Hi, I took a look on the ANSI standard. I base my work on the paper of Wiliam R. Cook "Interfaces and Specifications for the Smalltalk- Collection Classes" http://carlstrom.com/stanford/cs242/readings/12.pdf I prefer this paper because dictionary is not a protocol a single protocol. It takes the behavior of Indexed and I think that's logical. But ANSI standard is very interesting and we could use the 2! I think Nicolas is right about the 2 differences. I think I blocked on the literal sense of Sequenceable and Ordered. Tristan. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/difference-between-Sequenceable-and-Ordered-tp2231718… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] plan for 1.1

by Henrik Johansen

It's during load, happens on OSX too. Take a 11376 or earlier, select the Morphic package in Pharo, and click changes. The diff for FormCanvas transformBy:clippingTo:during:smoothing: is pretty hilarious :) The definition of that method in the Morphic version for Guillermos halt removals (which was merged in 11377) had some whiteSpace changes in that method. The version of Morphic you ended up published however, has the entire method definition replaced by arch/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image which strangly does not compile :) Cheers, Henry On May 28, 2010, at 9:24 59AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > do you have a stack trace? > > Stef > > On May 28, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Updating the 1.1. core on Windows brings a SyntaxError (FormCanvas drawing-support arch) while processing 11377: >> >> "archNothing more expected ->/Pharo/Pharo/PharoHarvestingFixes/PharoCore-1.1-11375-Beta.7.image" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] TORCH: supporting source-code change integration

by Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez

On 19 May 2010, at 00:47, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Veronica, > > A bit of feedback: > - After loading Torch, the package contextual menu seems to crash the Monticello Browser i found and solved this problem... > - You extend isSuper in RBProgramNode and RBVariableNode, which generates an override conflict with methods in Moose-Core. solved by using AST-Semantics > - The Glamour tags look different, so I guess you also have some Glamour overrides. That should not happen :). Maybe you have some suggestions for improvement, or maybe you just need the border for the [i] icon? > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 18 May 2010, at 15:16, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote: > >> Hi Tudor, >> >> thank you :D >> >> sure!!! >> >> cheers, >> Veronica >> >> >> On 18 May 2010, at 11:39, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi Veronica, >>> >>> It is pretty impressive :). >>> >>> Would it be Ok if I added this on the Moose page? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 18 May 2010, at 11:21, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks veronica. >>>> lukas said that he was impressed this is a complement :) >>>> >>>> On May 18, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to announce Torch, a tool for supporting source-code change integration. For now, it offers visualizations of the changes and enhanced change lists. >>>>> Torch can be accessed through Monticello (in the main MC browser, in the repository browser or in the history browser). Selecting a version or slice, you can view the changes with Torch using the contextual menu. >>>>> Once you open the Torch dashboard, you can access the enhanced change list or a detailed visualization via the contextual menu as well. >>>>> >>>>> Torch is available on SqueakSource, the repository is named Torch, and you need to load the ConfigurationOfTorch package. >>>>> It runs in a dev or core image. >>>>> >>>>> For a dev image. >>>>> - ConfigurationOfTorch loadVersion10 >>>>> >>>>> For a core image. >>>>> 1) Set fonts - described in the attached file. >>>>> 2) ConfigurationOfTorch loadDefault >>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate comments and feedback! >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> VerÃ³nica Uquillas GÃ³mez >>>>> Vrije University Brussel - SOFT Lab >>>>> University of Lille - RMOD Team >>>>> >>>>> <torchFontsScript.st> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FWD: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Croquet OpenGL on Squeaksource (Re: Trying to load ALienOpenGL into 4.1 alpha...)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

If you want us to help may be you should start to tell us exactly what you tried to do. Without that then we cannot. Stef On May 28, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Lawson English wrote: > (Andreas Raab responded to this with: > > > This is your problem. CroquetGL has not been tested on Pharo. I suspect Pharo 1.0 has still the dreadful "SmalltalkImage current platformName". ) > > > Is AlienOpenGL still an option? > > > Lawson > > > > On 5/27/10 7:54 PM, Lawson English wrote: >> Darn, tried that with the latest update of Seaside 3.0a. I had to use Monticello directly, rather than Installer. 'OpenGL example." returned the error MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName >> >> >> >> On 3/22/10 11:04 PM, Andreas Raab wrote: >>> On 3/22/2010 7:27 PM, Lawson English wrote: >>>> Croquet OpenGL is dependent on all sorts of things. Have you managed to >>>> get Croquet working in a modernish version of Squeak/Pharo? >>> >>> (you will need an updated 4.1 trunk image - I've promoted Form>>flipVertically to core in the process of making this package) >>> >>> From http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL >>> >>> The OpenGL interface from Croquet for consumption in other contexts. Supports OpenGL 1.4 plus extensions. >>> >>> To install, first load the FFI via: >>> >>> (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') >>> install: 'FFI-Pools'; >>> install: 'FFI-Kernel'; >>> install: 'FFI-Tests'. >>> >>> then load CroquetGL: >>> >>> (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') >>> install: '3DTransform'; >>> install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; >>> install: 'OpenGL-Core'. >>> >>> When everything has loaded, try the example: >>> >>> OpenGL example. >>> >>> Important Windows Note: >>> >>> In order to use Croquet on Windows, you must make sure your VM is set to support OpenGL instead of D3D by default. To do this, press F2 or go to the system menu, into the "Display and Sound" section and ensure the preference "Use OpenGL (instead of D3D" is ENABLED. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Vm-dev] Squeak removed from Gentoo Linux

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 28, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:07 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Reading the complete thread is quite interesting. > > > Yes definitely. They do not all wrong. It is not necessary to > duplicate the external code. > If i read correctly, there is some security issues with the current > Squeak/Pharo VM. Exact! Stef

May 28, 2010