May 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] A remote workspace

by Igor Stasenko

On 13 May 2010 02:22, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Why dont you use the VNC facility of Pharo which is > typically used to administrate Seaside images: > > Â http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc > > Just install the RFB package, configure and use a normal > VNC client to remotely use and drive the image. > > So you have workspaces, debuggers, you name it, ... > Remote debugging is a must. Headless, no UI. Remote debugger can create own UI at debugger side, while debugged image could be quite small, contain no UI, Morphic & rest of stuff. Think of debugging a kernel images, where you can't afford having a lot of stuff loaded, not saying about RFB. > Bye > Torsten > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

May 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] New packages to include in PharoDev 1.1

by Torsten Bergmann

If you load "ScriptManager-Help-tbn.1.mcz" from http://www.squeaksource.com/ScriptManager afterwards and reopen the HelpBrowser you will also get a short introduction to ScriptManager. It's not yet in the ConfigurationOfHelpSystem. Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem in Pharo 1.1 (Igor?) : You have reached the size limit of the changes file.

by Igor Stasenko

I found this message in CompiledMethod, which should be: CompiledMethod>>checkOKToAdd: size at: filePosition "Issue several warnings if the end of the changes file is approaching a fixed size limit, and finally halt with an error if the limit is reached." ^ SourceFiles checkOKToAdd: size at: filePosition looks like Pharo didn't integrated this method. also, make sure you using a proper source file array.. SourceFiles class == ExpandedSourceFileArray On 13 May 2010 03:10, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/5/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi. I have the following error: >> >> Â 'You have reached the size limit of the changes file. >> You must take action now to reduce it. >> Close this error.Â Do not attempt to proceed.' >> >> I know this is a known error, but I thought that with Igor's new method >> trailer this was fixed. >> > > Seems like a leftovers of old stuff, with precautions once you > reaching the size limit. > > Close this error. Â And attempt to proceed. > > :) > >> Tested in 11355 >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem in Pharo 1.1 (Igor?) : You have reached the size limit of the changes file.

by Igor Stasenko

2010/5/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi. I have the following error: > > Â 'You have reached the size limit of the changes file. > You must take action now to reduce it. > Close this error.Â Do not attempt to proceed.' > > I know this is a known error, but I thought that with Igor's new method > trailer this was fixed. > Seems like a leftovers of old stuff, with precautions once you reaching the size limit. Close this error. And attempt to proceed. :) > Tested in 11355 > > Thanks > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] New packages to include in PharoDev 1.1

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Torsten! Cheers, Alexandre On 12 May 2010, at 19:16, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Alexandre wrote: >>> - ScriptManager >> >> I am not sure what this is about. The squeaksource page is not really well >furnished > > I updated the squeaksource wiki page: > > "This tool provides a GUI for managing scripts (or workspaces). It lets you > group them into folders, tear off as or bring in from workspaces, save and > load from file, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. The script Manager > is accessible via the system menu. The menu items should be self- > explanatory. It was originally written by Joseph Pelrine as an add on for > ENVY" > > > If you want to try it out in 1.1.: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfScriptManager'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfScriptManager) load > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Then open it using Tools -> ScriptManager. > > Bye > Torsten > > > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] A remote workspace

by Torsten Bergmann

Why dont you use the VNC facility of Pharo which is typically used to administrate Seaside images: http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/maintaining/vnc Just install the RFB package, configure and use a normal VNC client to remotely use and drive the image. So you have workspaces, debuggers, you name it, ... Bye Torsten -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

May 12, 2010

[Pharo-project] New packages to include in PharoDev 1.1

by Torsten Bergmann

Alexandre wrote: >> - ScriptManager > >I am not sure what this is about. The squeaksource page is not really well >furnished I updated the squeaksource wiki page: "This tool provides a GUI for managing scripts (or workspaces). It lets you group them into folders, tear off as or bring in from workspaces, save and load from file, and a whole bunch of other cool stuff. The script Manager is accessible via the system menu. The menu items should be self- explanatory. It was originally written by Joseph Pelrine as an add on for ENVY" If you want to try it out in 1.1.: -------------------------------------------------------- Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfScriptManager'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfScriptManager) load -------------------------------------------------------- Then open it using Tools -> ScriptManager. Bye Torsten -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A remote workspace

by Andrei Stebakov

You are a godsend! I was just asking about this feature on the list... 1) Should be reasonably fast 2) Should use secure connection (ideally ssh). I'd rather teach Pharo communicate via standard input/output first so you can use it as a command line tool, then expand this ability to talk via any variant of TCP/IP. I am very new to Pharo so I don't know the extent it's married to its GUI environment, not sure how easy it is to implement... On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Geoffroy Couprie <geo.couprie(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hello, > > Following the discussion on VM remote administration ( > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-users/2010-May/000268.html > ), I started working on something like a remote workspace. So far, I'm > able to connect to a VM running Pharo with netcat, and execute some > code. It is not much, but it was fun to write, and I learned a lot of > things :) > > Now, before I add new features, I feel I should ask if someone would > be interested by this, and what use case you would imagine: > -Connecting from another VM or sticking with netcat? > -Remote debugging (might not be easy, but should be fun to do) > -Sending commands to a lot of VMs at once (and querying status) > -Multiple connections possibles? > -Being able to save a session (like http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ ) > -Authentication/encryption? Is there a way to use openssl, or should I > steal the 3DES code from RFB (it should be quick enough for text only > communication)? > > Best regards, > > Geoffroy > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A remote workspace

by Geoffroy Couprie

Hello, On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Michael van der Gulik <mikevdg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Geoffroy Couprie > <geo.couprie(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Following the discussion on VM remote administration ( >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-users/2010-May/000268.html >> ), I started working on something like a remote workspace. So far, I'm >> able to connect to a VM running Pharo with netcat, and execute some >> code. It is not much, but it was fun to write, and I learned a lot of >> things :) >> >> Now, before I add new features, I feel I should ask if someone would >> be interested by this, and what use case you would imagine: >> -Connecting from another VM or sticking with netcat? >> -Remote debugging (might not be easy, but should be fun to do) >> -Sending commands to a lot of VMs at once (and querying status) >> -Multiple connections possibles? >> -Being able to save a session (like http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ ) >> -Authentication/encryption? Is there a way to use openssl, or should I >> steal the 3DES code from RFB (it should be quick enough for text only >> communication)? > > There's a package called REPLServer for Squeak which does the above. > It has command line editing and history. Aww, you just killed my first real Smalltalk program :( Well, I'll try it! > > It doesn't have a debugger yet. I use it to "reboot" Morphic to get > back to a debugger after a bad crash. Nor does it have session > management, but that could be added easily. I never thought of doing > that. > > REPLServer just uses telnet and only listens to localhost. I figured > that if anybody wants to do secure stuff, then they could SSH into the > remote host and then use telnet from the command line to get to > Squeak. > Yes, SSH tunnels work really well. Right now, my server listens on locahost too. Best regards, Geoffroy

May 12, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A remote workspace

by Geoffroy Couprie

Hello, 2010/5/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Geoffroy! This sounds extremely cool. My little advice is try to > concentrate in performance. I mean, you can have all the features you want, > but if you have to wait 5 seconds for each character you type, then it will > not make sense. So, from my point of view, is to get an acceptable > performance writing in the workspace. After that, you can add features. Well, for now, there is no problem with performance, because the command is sent only when I hit enter, and the result is returned immediatly after execution. But completion could be added.

May 12, 2010