May 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] (igor) Help for 1.1: condenseChanges does not work anymore

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok...now it seems to be working again. However, It takes MUCH more time than in Pharo 1.0. I really don't care too much, I just want to know if this is expected or not. Cheers Mariano On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Nicolas Cellier < nicolas.cellier.aka.nice(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2010/5/10 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > nicolas > > > > do you have an idea where we can look? > > > > Stef > > > > Sorry, I don't have time to dig into it... > But I think invent is a more appropriate verb than look in this case. > The ideas of Igor sound good to me, delegate some to CompiledMethods > and maybe use a mass becomeForward > > Nicolas > > > On May 10, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > > > >> Sorry for the infinite loop, it was my fault. > >> I thought it had been detected and solved already (in squeak ?). > >> > >> Destroying source pointer of un-installed methods was just a > >> workaround to be used in case of already broken sources. > >> There is another strategy : detect the source pointer of un-installed > >> methods and store them in the new change log. > >> This has to be done before logging source code of installed methods. > >> > >> Nicolas > >> > >> 2010/5/9 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com>: > >>> On 9 May 2010 23:17, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Ok, i took the 11343 > >>>>> - fixed the #condenseChanges > >>>>> - ran Smalltalk condenseChanges > >>>>> - changed the single method > >>>>> - saved image > >>>>> - ran Smalltalk condenseChanges again > >>>>> > >>>>> no crash reported. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Indeed, with 11343 it seems ok. > >>>> With 11326 (updated -> 11346), crash during the second condenseChanges > :( > >>> > >>> Alain, could you please send me an image +.changes saved just before > >>> running a second condenseChanges? > >>> I'll try to find the cause of it. > >>> > >>>> Alain > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Alain > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Best regards, > >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by example book: copying/pasting code snippets

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi andrei this is a pdf issue. I suggest you to type the code this is the best way to learn. Stef On May 13, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Andrei Stebakov wrote: > When I copy and paste code snippets from the book, the compiler complains about the minus signs (which is different character from what Pharo expects): > > For example the line from the book: > (j > 1) ifTrue: [ (cells at: i at: j â 1) toggleState]. > I have to change to (with "short" minus sign) > (j > 1) ifTrue: [ (cells at: i at: j - 1) toggleState]. > Otherwise the method doesn't get accepted. > I wonder if this is a PDF issue and if it could be corrected? > > Thank you, > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharo by example book: copying/pasting code snippets

by Andrei Stebakov

When I copy and paste code snippets from the book, the compiler complains about the minus signs (which is different character from what Pharo expects): For example the line from the book: (j > 1) ifTrue: [ (cells at: i at: j - 1) toggleState]. I have to change to (with "short" minus sign) (j > 1) ifTrue: [ (cells at: i at: j - 1) toggleState]. Otherwise the method doesn't get accepted. I wonder if this is a PDF issue and if it could be corrected? Thank you, Andrew

May 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] Help (perfect for newcomers) migrating a technical FAQ

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. I had a good idea and and it perfect for someone that wants to help and don't know how. It is not the most entertained task, but I promise you will learn a lot. Mostly, if you are newcomer. The idea is basically to migrate the FAQ that is here: http://scg.unibe.ch/wiki/faq/pharofaq to a new section in the collaborative Pharo book: http://book.pharo-project.org/ So....any takers ? Let us know so that we generate a new user in the Book The idea is also to check whether what is says is still correct for pharo or if it needs an update. Or even how to improve it (from the view of a newcomer). Thanks Mariano

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Help testing Pharo 1.1 in big screens!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is ok let us keep that one :) On May 13, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:44 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > On my 30 inches screen > opening in full show some little square due to the limit of the png :) > > Ok...I guess it's a limit of the png format in particular, but THIS file. I mean, even if I convert it, I will get same results I gues... > > Now, I don't know where this image came from. Samuel Morello ? Can we ask someone for a new one with better resolution ? > > Thanks > > mariano > > > Thanks mariano. > > > On May 13, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi folks. I re-try (yes, yes, I re-insist hahaha) to have a background picture for the PharoDev 1.1. The last time I tried, we had a problem with the picture because in big screens instead of making it bigger, it put it several times, or it cut it. Now, thanks to Gary, it should work well. > > > > So, if you are a lucky guy an have a big screen, can you please take the latests PharoCore 1.1 image, for example this: > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26995/PharoCore-1.1-11357-UNSTABLE… > > > > > > How to test it ? > > > > - Download this in the same directory where the .image is: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26996/pharoBackground.png > > > > Then evaluate: > > > > World backgroundMorph: > > ((UITheme builder > > newAlphaImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: 'pharoBackground.png') help: nil) > > autoSize: false; > > layout: #scaled; > > lock) > > > > > > What to test ? > > > > - You should stretch the pharo image, make it very big, and the background picture should stretch also together with the image. > > - If you notice a performance decrease with it (I don't think so) > > - If you like it or not. > > - If the resolution is good enough in big screens > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mariano > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] No autocompletion in ScriptManager

by Torsten Bergmann

>Ahh and ConfigurationOfScriptManager doesn't include Help package. Maybe we >can add a new group and define that ? > > Hi Torsten: seems OCompletion doesn't work in the script panel of > ScriptManager. I know, no time these days. Feel free to add it. Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] RB and OB in Pharo 1.1 [WAS] Re: [Seaside] Loading Seaside 3.0 in Pharo 1.1

by Lukas Renggli

> Now I saw a new package: AST-Semantic > Which are the dependecies of that package? It depends on AST-Core. > and who depends on it ? Nobody at the moment. It can annotate the AST with semantic information. For example, it can tell you if two variables refer to the same thing. And it can tell you what kind of variables this is. And where and in what scope it is defined. And where and in what scopes it is read and written. And if it is shadowing or being shadowed by other variables. Or if it is a special variable like 'self', something you cannot determine just by looking at the name. The package might be useful to define some more sophisticated transformation or refactoring. Currently I am using it in Helvetia, but also the New Compiler and other tools might find it useful. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Help testing Pharo 1.1 in big screens!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:44 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > On my 30 inches screen > opening in full show some little square due to the limit of the png :) > Ok...I guess it's a limit of the png format in particular, but THIS file. I mean, even if I convert it, I will get same results I gues... Now, I don't know where this image came from. Samuel Morello ? Can we ask someone for a new one with better resolution ? Thanks mariano > > Thanks mariano. > > > On May 13, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Hi folks. I re-try (yes, yes, I re-insist hahaha) to have a background > picture for the PharoDev 1.1. The last time I tried, we had a problem with > the picture because in big screens instead of making it bigger, it put it > several times, or it cut it. Now, thanks to Gary, it should work well. > > > > So, if you are a lucky guy an have a big screen, can you please take the > latests PharoCore 1.1 image, for example this: > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26995/PharoCore-1.1-11357-UNSTABLE… > > > > > > How to test it ? > > > > - Download this in the same directory where the .image is: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26996/pharoBackground.png > > > > Then evaluate: > > > > World backgroundMorph: > > ((UITheme builder > > newAlphaImage: (ImageReadWriter formFromFileNamed: > 'pharoBackground.png') help: nil) > > autoSize: false; > > layout: #scaled; > > lock) > > > > > > What to test ? > > > > - You should stretch the pharo image, make it very big, and the > background picture should stretch also together with the image. > > - If you notice a performance decrease with it (I don't think so) > > - If you like it or not. > > - If the resolution is good enough in big screens > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mariano > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] RB and OB in Pharo 1.1 [WAS] Re: [Seaside] Loading Seaside 3.0 in Pharo 1.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Now, playing a little with RB I found a deprecated method send: > > > > hasSpecialSelector: aSymbol ifTrueSetByte: > > > > You are using it in: > > > > RBClass >> existingMethodsThatReferTo: > > > > here: > > > > special := self realClass environment > > hasSpecialSelector: aSymbol > > ifTrueSetByte: [ :value | byte := value ]. > > > > the thing is that self realClass environment answer SystemDirectory but > we > > should use Smalltalk / SmalltalkImage > > You must be using a very old version of Refactoring-Core, this was > fixed quite some time ago. > Thanks Lukas. Yes, indeed I have a problem with my confs... Now I saw a new package: AST-Semantic Which are the dependecies of that package? and who depends on it ? So far I had: package: 'AST-Core'; package: 'AST-Tests-Core' with: [ spec requires: 'AST-Core' ]; package: 'Refactoring-Core' with: [ spec requires: 'AST-Core' ]; package: 'Refactoring-Tests-Core' with: [ spec requires: 'Refactoring-Core' ]; package: 'Refactoring-Spelling' with: [ spec requires: 'Refactoring-Core'. spec postLoadDoIt: #postLoadRBSpelling ]; package: 'Refactoring-Tests-Spelling' with: [ spec requires: 'Refactoring-Spelling'. ]. > > > In addition, is there a way to automatically check all the sends of > > deprecated methods? because there may be a lot...I just tried a Class > Rename > > refactor and I found this one, but I am sure there are more.. > > SmallLint finds some of them, but the rule should probably be improved. > > Also running the tests can show you problems (given that the code is > all covered). > > As I said, we fixed all the deprecated calls in Seaside 3.0, OB, RB, > eCompletion, Shout and PetitParser you just need to take the very > latest Pharo 1.1 and the very latest code of each package. > Ok..perfect. Thanks! Mariano > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] No autocompletion in ScriptManager

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ahh and ConfigurationOfScriptManager doesn't include Help package. Maybe we can add a new group and define that ? Thanks! Mariano On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Torsten: seems OCompletion doesn't work in the script panel of > ScriptManager. > > Cheers > > Mariano >

May 13, 2010