May 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Categories and Packages

by Geert Claes

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > packages were added on top and use categories. Ideally I would like to > remove categories. The problme is that it is not that simple because you > may have large packages and want to structure it inside. > I guess having packages that are that large that they need additional structure may not be a good idea though no? Having both Categories and Packages is very confusion from a usability point of view. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Categories-and-Packages-tp2216632p2216769.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo tips

by Javier PimÃ¡s

Nice!!! That looks wonderful, you just got a write permission in squeaksource ;) Could you please commit these changes? Is there a standard code to distinguish pharo from squeak, so we can detect which morphs we should use for buttons?? Regards, Javier. 2010/5/14 Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > File in the attached #initialize method after > loading http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoTips/PharoTips-Pocho.1.mcz > > Run > > PharoTipsMorph show > > Then you have: > - a working Pharo version by using "IconicButton" > - better back/forward icons > - the text non-editable when you click on it > - a different color according to Polymorph look > (the old yellow color remind too much on the annoying web page > security bar from Internet explorer) > > If we use it in a dev-image we should consider placing the > logo at another location: > > |logo| > logo := World submorphs detect: [:each | each isKindOf: ImageMorph]. > logo bounds: (4@34 corner: 379@169) > > See attached screenshot. > > One thing that still strikes me is that it does not resize when > the outside native window is resized - which is hard to do > since there is not yet an event from the VM for that. > (see [1]) > > Bye > T. > > [1] > http://www.mail-archive.com/pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr/msg21761.ht… > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Javier PimÃ¡s Ciudad de Buenos Aires

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] maybe a stupid question :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I do not have strong feeling about that ;) Just busy :) On May 14, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > May I disagree with that? I mean "pharo" is "pharo core", and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded, so I don't see the point on declaring it a different version. > > On 2010-05-14 09:04:31 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> said: > >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Why SystemVersion current version answers 'PharoCore1.0' and not just >>> 'Pharo1.0'? >> Maybe to distinguish from PharoDev? >> PharoCore answers -> 'PharoCore1.0' >> PharoDev (a.k.a Pharo) answers -> 'Pharo-1.0' >> Cheers, >>> Esteban >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Esteban= >> Lorenzano <<a href=3D"mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com">est= >> ebanlm(a)gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"= >> style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 2= >> 04); padding-left: 1ex;"> >> Hi, >> Why SystemVersion current version answers 'PharoCore1.0' and not ju= >> st 'Pharo1.0'? >> </blockquote><div> Maybe to distinguish from PharoDev? PharoC= >> ore answers ->=A0 'PharoCore1.0' PharoDev (a.k.a Pharo) a= >> nswers ->=A0 'Pharo-1.0' =A0 </div><blockquote class= >> =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid= >> rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> <a href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr" target=3D"_blank">Ph= >> aro-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr</a> >> <a href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proj= >> ect" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= >> o/pharo-project</a> >> </blockquote></div> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] maybe a stupid question :)

by Esteban Lorenzano

May I disagree with that? I mean "pharo" is "pharo core", and "pharo dev" is just pharo+packages loaded, so I don't see the point on declaring it a different version. On 2010-05-14 09:04:31 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> said: > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi, >> Why SystemVersion current version answers 'PharoCore1.0' and not just >> 'Pharo1.0'? >> >> > Maybe to distinguish from PharoDev? > > PharoCore answers -> 'PharoCore1.0' > > PharoDev (a.k.a Pharo) answers -> 'Pharo-1.0' > > > Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Esteban= > Lorenzano <<a > href=3D"mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com">est= > ebanlm(a)gmail.com</a>> > wrote: <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"= > style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 2= > 04); padding-left: 1ex;"> > Hi, > Why SystemVersion current version answers 'PharoCore1.0' and not ju= > st 'Pharo1.0'? > </blockquote><div> Maybe to distinguish from PharoDev? PharoC= > ore answers ->=A0 'PharoCore1.0' PharoDev (a.k.a Pharo) a= > nswers ->=A0 'Pharo-1.0' =A0 </div><blockquote class= > =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid= > rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > <a > href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr" > target=3D"_blank">Ph= > aro-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr</a> > <a href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proj= > ect" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= > o/pharo-project</a> > </blockquote></div> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Text selection color too dark in Pharo 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks alain. On May 14, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > fixed. > see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2431 > Cheers > Alain > > Le 09/05/2010 13:31, Adrian Lienhard a Ã©crit : >> In Pharo 1.0 the background color of selected text looks as follows: >> >> >> >> >> In Pharo 1.1: >> >> >> >> >> >> The text is harder to read with the new color. Was this changed on purpose? >> >> Adrian >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Categories and Packages

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

packages were added on top and use categories. Ideally I would like to remove categories. The problme is that it is not that simple because you may have large packages and want to structure it inside. Stef On May 14, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Geert Claes wrote: > > Categories are used to group related Classes together in an Image. The > notion of Repositories and Packages were probably introduced to manage > saving versions of code outside the Image and sharing this code easier. > > I am only trying to understand the reason why Classes are grouped in > Categories as well as Packages especially since by convention the Package > name is the same as the Class name? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Categories-and-Packages-tp2216632p2216632.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] NetNameResolver in Pharo 1.1

by Michael Roberts

Hi just trying to run the tests via the standard magma test expression. So it is looking to see if Display exists. That's the point on my mac I recognize that it annoyingly changes my screen resolution :-) anyway it is missing your ma extension to query the namespace. Cheers mike On Friday, May 14, 2010, Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> installer) it seems. I am missing an implementation of a method >> maAt:ifPresent:ifAbsent: on Smalltalk. > > Hi Mike, this is left-over from when Smalltalk became a > SmalltalkImage. Â But I am confused because I thought I had those all > cleaned up. Â Indeed, I did not find any senders of that to Smalltalk. > > Were you just trying to load it or run the test suite? Â If you would > post the stack I would be able to see what you were trying to do and > would be happy to fix it. > > Â - Chris > >> >> anyone with a spare moment might like to figure that out. The >> underscores need fixing in dependent packages (write barrier tests) >> as well >> >> so we should maybe do something simpler to test the network. >> >> thanks, >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Help testing Pharo 1.1 in big screens!

by Geert Claes

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> It does stretch, question is why should it stretch? I find that when you >> make it very wide or very narrow it looks a bit strange. Why not just >> center the background image? > > I don't know. For me is the same. In my pc it is the same ;) > When I released a image with such picture as background people complained > that they wanted stretch... > I guess so, you could go further and give the option to center stretch, or tile ... but I am not too fussed about the background image -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Help-testing-Pharo-1-1-in-big-screens-tp2201495p22166… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Help testing Pharo 1.1 in big screens!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > - You should stretch the pharo image, make it very big, and the > background > > picture should stretch also together with the image. > > > > It does stretch, question is why should it stretch? I find that when you > make it very wide or very narrow it looks a bit strange. Why not just > center the background image? > I don't know. For me is the same. In my pc it is the same ;) When I released a image with such picture as background people complained that they wanted stretch... > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Help-testing-Pharo-1-1-in-big-screens-tp2201495p22166… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Help testing Pharo 1.1 in big screens!

by Geert Claes

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > - You should stretch the pharo image, make it very big, and the background > picture should stretch also together with the image. > It does stretch, question is why should it stretch? I find that when you make it very wide or very narrow it looks a bit strange. Why not just center the background image? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Help-testing-Pharo-1-1-in-big-screens-tp2201495p22166… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 14, 2010